Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : Domain Names : One domain, Two hosts?

[imnotstpd]

Alright, I'm tired of searching for an answer so I'm just going to ask it. I've got a large site that I'd like to leave as is, however, it is reaching it's size limit. I'm in the process of selecting another host for additional resources. Is it possible for the new host to use the same domain name? If so, how do I go about doing that?

Reason being...I'd really hate to have to put static links all over the place. Sorry, but in this particular case...I am stupid.

Thanks for any help.

[Samuel]

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=81640

[imnotstpd]

I appreciate the feedback, but your talking to a novice here. That thread sounds like it's geared towards a prefessional hosting company. I'm just a lowly webmaster.

[Samuel]

What type of data are we talking about here, what programming databasing etc.

Is this strictly dynamic information or static?

Are you limited by the account y ou have and you need another, or?

Talk about what is it that the site requires more specifically.

[imnotstpd]

My site is made up of simple html with a little Java script. It is, however, image intensive. I do not sell any products, it's basically informational....and definitely NOT an adult site. My current host is limited to 50 mg of storage. I really don't want to move everything since I'm pd up for another 6 months.

I realize now that there are options I would like that my current host does not offer. If I absolutely have to, I suppose static links would have to do, but there's got to be another way. Hence the dilemma.

[Samuel]

I'm barely what you would call a programmer but isn't there a way to serve all images relative to documents from another location? IE, IP

[Alex042]

You may be able to setup the images on another host as a subdomain of the primary host, but some hosts may not approve of using the space as a file repository. Several require a certain percentage of the files to be linked from other files in the hosted space. With only 50mb of space, you may want to just consider moving yer entire domain to a larger site.

[MrMini]

Just a thought. Wouldn't it be cheaper for you to just have your web host upgrade your allowable webspace? Just my 2 cents. Good luck.

MM

[luxline]

One domain name, spread over two (or more) servers. Easy enough, and completely non-technical answer coming....

Sign up with the new provider, and they will issue you with your ip address.

Whoever handles your domain at present, just ask them to add another ip address for your domain. That ip address is the one for your new server.


Once this is done, anyone going to your domain will get server #1, the next person will get server #2, the next will get #1. Its not exactly like that, but to remain a non-technical answer, it will suffice.

Thus you will spread the load just about evenly over the two servers.

[Goldwing]

Luxline

Whoever handles your domain at present, just ask them to add another ip address for your domain. That ip address is the one for your new server.

I would love to see you make that work :-) that would if properly configured split the dns load but still leave the same situation.

At best he would need to mirror the sites which is not going to benefit him when he needs more space, on top of that he would have to purchase an IP based site which is effectively against ARIN and RIPE rules as he probably cannot justify it.

So doing that he would be far better off just purchasing some hosting with a decent capacity in the first place.

[luxline]

Goldwing:

With some 15 years of experience in Unix, and the last 7 years dedicated to supporting hosting companies, and having written my own dns server software, the above non-technical answer will do the job.

Yes, I forgot to mention that they would have to upload the site to the new server, mea culpa.

It will work, you do not need ip based hosting, all domains (that work) resolve to an ip address, whether they are on geocities, redirected, cloaked, or shared hosting or whatever, so ICANN (ARIN/RIPE) rules dont come into it at all.

The original question, as I see it:
Is it possible for the new host to use the same domain name? If so, how do I go about doing that?
And my answer doesnt fit ?

If you are going to comment that something is wrong, kindly suggest an alternative solution to prove that you know something about the subject. Who knows, maybe I am indeed wrong?

I suppose if I were to add any advice, I would suggest that they use a canonical domain for their new server, such as images.DOMAIN-NAME, and hook into it from their current domain. However, I believe this was not really the original question.

[Goldwing]

With some 15 years of experience in Unix, and the last 7 years dedicated to supporting hosting companies, and having written my own dns server software, the above non-technical answer will do the job.

Jeeze I hate this forum, everyone is so touchy - note the smiley in the original answer.

Simply - the guy is running out of space so how is splitting the dns between two servers going to help him, he would need to mirror both sites which still leaves him with the space problem on the original site.

Sign up with the new provider, and they will issue you with your ip address.

You mentioned the ip address not me.
You cannot do this and have different files on different servers as the files served would depend on the dns hit - surely ?

The original question, as I see it:

See original question below

I'm in the process of selecting another host for additional resources. Is it possible for the new host to use the same domain name? If so, how do I go about doing that?

Unless there is something new for me to learn you cannot have the same domain on 2 servers whilst grabbing certain files from each server, both servers would have to be mirrored

I suppose if I were to add any advice, I would suggest that they use a canonical domain for their new server, such as images.DOMAIN-NAME, and hook into it from their current domain. However, I believe this was not really the original question

Yes that will work however this would require the original host to allow sub domains and allow separate dns entries for the sub domain or they are still going to run into the same issue as above i.e mirroring - unless I am very mistaken. In the original question he seems to want to use the same domain for both servers - thats fine but he "seems" to want to serve different files from each server.

With some 15 years of experience in Unix, and the last 7 years dedicated to supporting hosting companies, and having written my own dns server software, the above non-technical answer will do the job.

I never questioned your ability just the interpretation of the question to which I will be the first to admit I may have wrong.

Me - 22 years in the computer industry and 7 running my own hosting and domain registry business - not quite wet behind the ears either.

Best solution IMO is a new host or upgrade ( best solution by far), or second server serving the images - don't you agree?