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    Toronto Canada How this place?

    Applied for family migration to Toronto

    May I know how this place is? Cost of living on average to rent a house and is this place good for IT jobs.

    Will be moving to USA first, company sponsored for some time, later may settle in Canada.

    Which is better is it Canada or USA?
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    i think this site might help you a bit:
    http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/Torontoliving.asp

    also here is a site to help you figure out housing prices rent/buy
    http://toronto.kijiji.ca/f-housing-W0QQCatIdZ34

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    I've got a friend in Toronto, She says the crime rate is outrageous. Anyway that's her opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    I've got a friend in Toronto, She says the crime rate is outrageous. Anyway that's her opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
    LOL is it more dangerous than in the USA. I have heard of many open gun firing incidents in the USA so far. I thought Canada was more peaceful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    LOL is it more dangerous than in the USA. I have heard of many open gun firing incidents in the USA so far. I thought Canada was more peaceful
    I'm from Chicago (not the safest place in the world) and I love it. So I was really surprised when she told me how bad Toronto was. According to Google its one of the safest cities in the world. Let us know when you get there lol
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    You can always live outside of Toronto. I was born and raised 45 minutes from Toronto. I loved it. I have moved away to another province 10 years ago, but I have heard the crime in downtown Toronto, has escalated over the years.

    Overall canada in general is a safe and peaceful place. I'm very happy and fortunate to have been born and raised here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    I've got a friend in Toronto, She says the crime rate is outrageous. Anyway that's her opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
    lolwhut? Lived downtown for ~9 years and jogged every night at midnight. Was in what would be considered the ghetto and never had any kind of issue. Define 'crime'. Great city, would also recommend considering Vancouver. Both cities are gorgeous, the latter moreso all year round. The people are nice, the tech. scene is screaming busy and I'd move back in a heartbeat.

    I'm bouncing between Chicago & Toronto and in the former I hear gunshots every night of the year. In Toronto I've never heard or seen a single incident -- there have been a few cases of gang violence, but that's exactly where it stops: gang vs. gang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    I'm from Chicago (not the safest place in the world) and I love it. So I was really surprised when she told me how bad Toronto was. According to Google its one of the safest cities in the world. Let us know when you get there lol
    I have a few old friends rocking there in Chicago Must be an awesome place.


    Canada looks like a great place with great scenic beauty
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    Chicago is really an awesome city, of course you don't want to get lost as some areas are pretty rough.

    I talk to my friend in Toronto almost every night and I told her about this thread. She got a good chuckle out of it. This past year she had moved out of the city itself and feels safer, but she still works downtown. I'm sure it's no worse than any other large city.
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    Have some friends in Canada and it is peaceful.

    You can also try New Zealand :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by net View Post
    Have some friends in Canada and it is peaceful.

    You can also try New Zealand :-)
    Another one of my forum members lives in Christchurch. Beautiful country though they had quite a shake up a few months back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    LOL is it more dangerous than in the USA. I have heard of many open gun firing incidents in the USA so far. I thought Canada was more peaceful
    True. During 9/11 some people were open and firing at anyone that looked like they came from that part of the world.

    So I wouldn't think it's that safe.

    Toronto is just too packed and unless you like busy places. I wouldn't advise it. But I guess the IT jobs are there, but there are lots of people wanting an IT job and not enough jobs in that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshFroot View Post
    True. During 9/11 some people were open and firing at anyone that looked like they came from that part of the world.
    Yes we are a target for attacks especially in the USA Though better jobs will be in the USA.

    Finding a job in Toronto will be a matter of luck, and crimes are too high especially in capital cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshFroot View Post
    True. During 9/11 some people were open and firing at anyone that looked like they came from that part of the world.
    I could be wrong but I don't remember that being the case. Prejudice is born of ignorance and from a spiritual stance when we harm others we cause harm to ourselves. Hate can never be overcome by hate.
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    Atleast I have read in news that Indians get attacked especially be blacks and there's had been a Chicago open gun shoot out by someone from philipino that killed many especially Indians and at last commited suicide . Probably someone who was physchic.

    About the 9/11 i don't think so. That was a mourning time for the Americans.One of my cousin's was inside the lowest storey of the twin tower at that time, but he managed to escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    Atleast I have read in news that Indians get attacked especially be blacks and there's had been a Chicago open gun shoot out by someone from philipino that killed many especially Indians and at last commited suicide . Probably someone who was physchic.

    About the 9/11 i don't think so. That was a mourning time for the Americans.One of my cousin's was inside the lowest storey of the twin tower at that time, but he managed to escape.
    Why leave India. The best place is our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    Atleast I have read in news that Indians get attacked especially be blacks and there's had been a Chicago open gun shoot out by someone from philipino that killed many especially Indians and at last commited suicide . Probably someone who was physchic.

    About the 9/11 i don't think so. That was a mourning time for the Americans.One of my cousin's was inside the lowest storey of the twin tower at that time, but he managed to escape.
    Again it's sad that humans still harm each other at all because of differences in color, nationality, or religion. It's not just the US, but the species has not evolved much in the last millennium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biju View Post
    Why leave India. The best place is our country.
    That's true.India is the best place at the moment with a big boom in IT.

    US has an unwelcoming weather too !

    Unfortunately, my betterhalf has high dreams to be in the west .

    He had been working on a means to find a way to be in the west for a long time. However, I may just tour those places and return back.Or I may just keep switching between places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    Again it's sad that humans still harm each other at all because of differences in color, nationality, or religion. It's not just the US, but the species has not evolved much in the last millennium.
    It is really unGodly and against creation to harm people based on color, nationality, or religion!

    Let alone differences in color, nationality, or religion!
    Here in India, itself people are really bad amongst themselves. Lots of cheating and frauds wherever possible
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    Have you considered Ottawa? It's often referred to as the Silicon Valley of Canada and it's repeatedly the safest city in Canada year after year. I've lived all over (Canada & Europe) and Ottawa is easily my favorite place.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Have you considered Ottawa? It's often referred to as the Silicon Valley of Canada and it's repeatedly the safest city in Canada year after year. I've lived all over (Canada & Europe) and Ottawa is easily my favorite place.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa
    Haha. Odd, Waterloo, Toronto & Vancouver are referenced as the same
    Ottawa is nice though, spent two years there. It has nothing on Vancouver & Toronto though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    Have you considered Ottawa? It's often referred to as the Silicon Valley of Canada and it's repeatedly the safest city in Canada year after year. I've lived all over (Canada & Europe) and Ottawa is easily my favorite place.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa
    Lived in Ottawa my whole life too! While I don't think it's anywhere close to the silicon valley, it has a good diversity in IT jobs.

    I find Toronto a great place to visit, but I'd rather live in a smaller city.
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    LOL I just love to be fishing salmons in Canada

    Have seen bears catching and feasting them.

    Is it safe to go for outings to such places without having to encounter with bears?
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    I know little about Toronto, but Canada in general is very nice, somewhat cold and the people are very friendly in general.

    Only thing I know about Toronto is that the cost of living is very high, saw some show on TV about housing, houses are super pricey.
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    Yes expensive thats why I fear Toronto .

    We have assured job if its USA.
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    I have lived in/around Toronto and the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) for all my life. Crime rate? Maybe more than other Canadian cities, but IMO less than quite a few big international cities... I feel completely comfortable walking alone downtown at night - however as with any city, that largely depends on the area (There are some I would not walk alone in).

    Lots of Datacenters in the GTA as well, CentriLogic and Capris in Mississauga (~30 min from Toronto).. 151 Front Street downtime, Peer1 has a new facility north of the city... Lots of jobs depending on your level of experience.

    Canadian Economy is kicking ass right now.. being higher than the American dollar is a huge benefit as well. PM me if you have any Q's about the Area, local Economy or jobs available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    Yes expensive thats why I fear Toronto .

    We have assured job if its USA.
    Not sure how you get an assured job? There are tons of lay offs lately in jobs. Funny, because people here are looking for a way out and then I see posts of people like you wanting in LOL. I guess you haven't heard of our recent economy? :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshFroot View Post
    Not sure how you get an assured job? There are tons of lay offs lately in jobs. Funny, because people here are looking for a way out and then I see posts of people like you wanting in LOL. I guess you haven't heard of our recent economy? :p
    My husband has an assured job if he moves to USA.

    If it is to Canada we have nothing assured. Canada must be similar to USA.

    I know USA has recession at its worst, and the news channels and US government are trying hard to keep the truth from the public and international level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcianfarani View Post

    Lots of Datacenters in the GTA as well, CentriLogic and Capris in Mississauga (~30 min from Toronto).. 151 Front Street downtime, Peer1 has a new facility north of the city... Lots of jobs depending on your level of experience.

    Canadian Economy is kicking ass right now.. being higher than the American dollar is a huge benefit as well. PM me if you have any Q's about the Area, local Economy or jobs available.
    That's good news! If there are datacenters then probably its a sign that system admin/linux jobs will be available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    I've got a friend in Toronto, She says the crime rate is outrageous. Anyway that's her opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
    Thats a bunch of crap, your friend needs to move to a city with real crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    That's good news! If there are datacenters then probably its a sign that system admin/linux jobs will be available.
    I know ample entities hiring in the GTA if you need any referrals All linux shops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    My husband has an assured job if he moves to USA.

    If it is to Canada we have nothing assured. Canada must be similar to USA.

    I know USA has recession at its worst, and the news channels and US government are trying hard to keep the truth from the public and international level.
    You should move to my city, Mississauga . Mississauga is Canada's sixth largest city with a population of more than 750,000 now. It's also central to all other cities 15-20 minutes from: Toronto, Brampton, North York, Oakville etc. Also, Mississauga is one of the few debt-free municipalities within Canada and there are plenty of IT jobs within the market.

    If you want additional information or facts feel free to review the following information when you get the chance:

    http://www.mississauga.ca/portal/cit...r_id%3D9700020

    Toronto has certainly changed over the course of the past decade. Toronto has about 2.5 million people with a lot of traffic, congestion and an on the go type of attitude. In terms of expensive, avoid real estate within Yorkville, Lawrence Park, Rosedale, Forest Hill.

    Keep in mind that the province of Ontario has an expensive real estate market along with British Columbia.

    If your husband has guaranteed employment in the states it would probably be in his best interest to get the North American work experience under his belt first and then possibly transfer or apply for work in Canada. Good luck on making your decision. At the end of the day, regardless of what I or anyone else in this forum tells you ultimately the choice will be between you and your significant other
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manjusha4serveradmin View Post
    Applied for family migration to Toronto

    May I know how this place is? Cost of living on average to rent a house and is this place good for IT jobs.

    Will be moving to USA first, company sponsored for some time, later may settle in Canada.

    Which is better is it Canada or USA?
    I am from India but I read on a blog about "Toronto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicman153 View Post
    I've got a friend in Toronto, She says the crime rate is outrageous. Anyway that's her opinion so take it with a grain of salt.
    Lots of hosting companies are in or around Detroit and we all know how that city is.... LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THAMAN View Post
    Thats a bunch of crap, your friend needs to move to a city with real crime
    Too funny ,

    That wouldn't surprise me at all. She's a great friend but I have learned she can be rather...opinionated lol, and we don't always agree on everything. That's part of what makes her a true friend is we can have different views, agree to disagree and still be friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DewlanceHosting View Post
    His site in Hindi Language(Non English), If you know Hindi then I can give you a his blog link
    Let me have the link to his blog. I would love to gain knowledge about Toronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LevelHosting Inc View Post

    If your husband has guaranteed employment in the states it would probably be in his best interest to get the North American work experience under his belt first and then possibly transfer or apply for work in Canada.
    Definitely, Looks like USA work experience will really count in Canada. He is POS expert along with a wide range of number of other areas like mainframe. He know nothing about webhosting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcianfarani View Post
    I have lived in/around Toronto and the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) for all my life. Crime rate? Maybe more than other Canadian cities, but IMO less than quite a few big international cities... I feel completely comfortable walking alone downtown at night - however as with any city, that largely depends on the area (There are some I would not walk alone in).

    Lots of Datacenters in the GTA as well, CentriLogic and Capris in Mississauga (~30 min from Toronto).. 151 Front Street downtime, Peer1 has a new facility north of the city... Lots of jobs depending on your level of experience.

    Canadian Economy is kicking ass right now.. being higher than the American dollar is a huge benefit as well. PM me if you have any Q's about the Area, local Economy or jobs available.
    I don't know if I agree.

    Usually when the American dollar suffers. The Canadian dollar would suffer too. Since both countries are fairly dependent on each other.

    I think Canada has only survived, because they have natural resources that American doesn't have and rather needs. So I wouldn't say the economy is "kicking ass". It's just in a lucky spot to be able to sell it's resources. The problem is now that the Canadian dollar is WORTH more. It means people outside will be less likely to buy from Canada.

    If they bought lumber for $1 and now it's $2. They might say hey lets go look at another country. Just because it's doing well right now doesn't mean it will tomorrow.

    It's like a domino effect and the Canadian Dollar will take a hit soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshFroot View Post
    I don't know if I agree.

    Usually when the American dollar suffers. The Canadian dollar would suffer too. Since both countries are fairly dependent on each other.

    I think Canada has only survived, because they have natural resources that American doesn't have and rather needs. So I wouldn't say the economy is "kicking ass". It's just in a lucky spot to be able to sell it's resources. The problem is now that the Canadian dollar is WORTH more. It means people outside will be less likely to buy from Canada.

    If they bought lumber for $1 and now it's $2. They might say hey lets go look at another country. Just because it's doing well right now doesn't mean it will tomorrow.

    It's like a domino effect and the Canadian Dollar will take a hit soon too.

    Meh. Worst case scenario we drop a bit under.. I think it will remain close (Unless the NDP get elected and they mess our Economy.. )

    I'll stop with my Political Bias now.

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