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04-21-2011, 02:36 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Windows 2008 on XEN HVM for $6.95 , can be legal ?
Hi guys;
I have found something which has puzzled my mind.
Please look at following offers :
https://clients.thrustvps.com/cart.php?gid=21
they are offering windows 2008 VPS for about $7/mo on XEN HVM !
how is it possible based on Microsoft SPLA rules ?
the only solution is to offer such price is to create the VPS's on windows datacenter edition. but XEN works only on linux !
are they pirating the licenses ? what do u think ?
Regards
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04-21-2011, 04:50 PM #2Junior Guru
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Sir, Xen lets you run Windows on top of Linux, so they can easily run Datacenter edition with it. This will not be illegal, they are a big company
Hope this helps
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04-21-2011, 05:42 PM #3Web Hosting Guru
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My anti-virus caught malicious scripts from that site. Defiantly a scam.
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04-21-2011, 05:57 PM #4Junior Guru
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04-21-2011, 06:31 PM #5Junior Guru
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04-21-2011, 06:39 PM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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04-21-2011, 06:53 PM #7BEST.CSM.EVER
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If we go developing software... It's going to be anti-troll and anti-bs software.
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04-21-2011, 07:06 PM #8Web Hosting Guru
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You wouldn't happen to be using Avast, would you? They tend to produce false positives on well known reputable sites.
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04-21-2011, 07:56 PM #9WHT Addict
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04-21-2011, 09:20 PM #10Aspiring Evangelist
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04-21-2011, 09:42 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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04-21-2011, 10:52 PM #12Web Hosting Guru
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Avira, and it's set on high sensitivity, which may cause false positives, but it also catches bad stuff other antivirus miss so it's OK. I'm happy airing on the side of caution. It was probably heuristic because they're doing something nasty.
But really "thrust vps"?!? And their website looks it was done by a 12 year old. Not exactly confidence inspiring.
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04-21-2011, 10:59 PM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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04-21-2011, 11:36 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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I'm not endorsing them, but they've been around a while, their owner participates here, and I really like their site design. So many VPS companies have the same templates. I won't speak to their service, but their design stands out.
Of course, bigbuttvps.com also stands out, but for different reasons...
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04-21-2011, 11:59 PM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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Yes , I know that ! they can run windows datacenter edition as a guest on linux host, but how can it help regarding Microsoft licensing ?
They are creating all windows nodes individually directly on linux , so they should pay for each license.
please correct me if I am wrong.
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04-22-2011, 02:40 AM #16WHT Addict
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04-22-2011, 03:36 AM #17Junior Guru
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Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter licenses include unlimited virtualization rights, meaning customers have the use rights to run an unlimited number of virtualized instances of Windows Server on processors licensed with Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter without purchasing additional licenses. The use rights also allow the choice of running Windows Server 2008 R2 (or previous version) Standard, Enterprise, and Datacenter in the virtual instances.
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04-22-2011, 05:34 AM #18Disabled
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wow, great discussion .... keep it up man..
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04-22-2011, 07:37 AM #19Junior Guru Wannabe
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I know what XEN is , but XEN can not be installed on windows datacenter. it is a virtualization technology only for linux but supports windows guests.
They have installed XEN on a linux server and are creating windows VPS's (guests) thats against Microsoft licensing.
only if you create the VPS's on a windows datacenter edition then you have the unlimited virtualization right.
not on XEN , not on Linux.
any comments ? because I believe what they are doing is both illegal and unfair to hosting community.
our company is paying thousands of dollars to Microsoft every month for licensing and many companies are doing so.
I hope someone from thrustvps can clarify this issue.
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04-22-2011, 07:59 AM #20Disabled
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04-22-2011, 08:06 AM #21Junior Guru
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04-22-2011, 08:08 AM #22Disabled
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04-22-2011, 08:19 AM #23Junior Guru Wannabe
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Let me not to mention my company name and URL , I do not want visitors to think this is about advertisement although it is easy to find out if you search by yourself.
as far as I can see , no one has any idea of what they are doing !
there is no technical deployment which can comply with Microsoft SPLA with this scenario !
I am sure everyone expect a fair play , at least from big players !
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04-22-2011, 08:32 AM #24WHT Addict
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It sounds quite simple - you get a server, with datacenter edition - and sell VM's.
After a quick search - this post addresses the licensing issues: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...0&postcount=30
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04-22-2011, 08:34 AM #25Disabled
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As i remember this only applies to HyperV - NOT to Xen/KVM.
Not sure though.
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