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04-20-2011, 11:10 AM #1Newbie
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Currently on VPS should i move to Cloud?
Hi, i manage an online store that has grown on the past years, we moved from shared hosting to VPS because the site kept crashing due to memory limits and also because of a poorly designed database (we also moved to a better shopping cart system).
Everything went pretty smooth for several months, but as the popularity of the store kept growing, the site began to crash because of memory limits (RAM) yet again, so we figured "alright, lets move the the next VPS plan that has almost twice the RAM" and that solved the problem for a few months but now is at it again, everytime we announce a new product or offer and there's a rush of clients the site crashes due to not enough memory (according to error log and resources stats).
Now, we are considering upgrading the VPS plan again to add another 500 MB or RAM (bandwidth and everything gets upgraded too, but that's never been a concern), but that would bring the monthly cost almost at the same price as a Dedicated Server, so my question here is if i should upgrade the VPS or just move to Dedicated, or does Cloud offers a more reliable option?
We are currently on a VPS plan with 2 GHz, 1.3 GB RAM, and 1k GB bandwith for less than $80 bucks/mo
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04-20-2011, 11:31 AM #2WHT Addict
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How much bandwidth and disk space do you actually use?
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04-20-2011, 11:38 AM #3Newbie
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04-20-2011, 12:05 PM #4Junior Guru
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many different cloud products out there depending on the provider you choose. I would consider it for sure if you go with a cloud option that includes redundancy removing single points of failure over traditional VPS or dedicated servers.
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04-20-2011, 12:16 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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Most cloud servers are virtual private servers with extra features. Sounds like your biggest problem is just upgrading which maybe a cloud server would be easier as with most you would be able to upgrade instantly.
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04-21-2011, 05:03 AM #6New Member
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just expanding on devonblzx point a little bit - true cloud servers would allow you to instantly scale resources according to your needs. That means you can react to peaks and troughs in traffic/bandwidth requirements.
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04-21-2011, 06:29 AM #7Web Hosting Guru
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As what I have read, there are a lot of factors involved in making your decision between Cloud Hosting and Dedicated Servers—reliability, scalability, support, etc.— but if you really have that budget, choose Cloud Hosting.
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04-21-2011, 07:47 AM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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It's hard to advice about this, most cloud providers bill based on several factors, not just ram, disk and bandwidth. Stuff like cpu use also factor in, so it can be hard to predict what you will end up paying. This can also be a problem with a badly designed application that really can drive cost up if it hogs resources.
So if I was considering this I would first go over the application design and see if it can't be optimized.
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04-21-2011, 08:52 PM #9Disabled
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For you condition maybe nope. Because you is lack of disk space and mostly you need higher disk space. Unless you predict that in future you may use less disk space,then you can consider about cloud hosting rather than Dedicated Server. Because you able to help you save cost which you only need to paid when you would like to upgrade for certain period only. But if permanent use then go back for dedicated server.
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04-21-2011, 09:31 PM #10
from the sound of it, it's time to move to a dedicated server. a decent quad core with 4gb ram and raid 1 disks is going to run circles around the vps you have, for only a bit more money.
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04-22-2011, 01:13 AM #11Newbie
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Thank you all for your input, i really appreciate it. We are researching the pros and cons of Cloud VS Dedicated, i like the scalability but since we actually use all of the resources and this keeps growing i fear we may end up paying way more if we go with Cloud.
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04-22-2011, 02:12 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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I suggest to first hire (or do it yourself if you have the know how) someone to optimize your site. A highly optimized site will lead to less server load and faster pageloads. If you have already done this or this isn't an option, than I would suggest to move to a cloud VPS type situation like stormondemand.com.
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04-22-2011, 08:54 AM #13Newbie
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I would suggest you to go with the Cloud. It is more reliable and your are protected against hardware failure depends of your provider. if the server where your Virtual Machine is running crash, your Virtual Machine can be moved to another server and you will have less downtime compare to a dedicated. On a dedicated if the hard drive is crashing all your data will be lost. Also it is easy to upgrade and require a few minutes of downtime as compare to a dedicated server where the upgrade can be long an painful.
For example, if you want to upgrade your Disk space on a dedicated server you will have to move to a new dedicated server and reinstall everything .HPCHost
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04-22-2011, 10:09 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Not always true. It depends on which "Cloud" provider you go with. I was with sitecloud.com for a while and they were down at least an hour a day, on average. Good thing they folded .
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04-22-2011, 10:55 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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Currently on VPS should i move to Cloud?
You would probably notice a better performance increase moving to a dedicated server, where the disk and cpu are dedicated to only you
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04-23-2011, 12:54 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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Go with a dedicated server for the short while and then hire someone to either tweak your setup or restructure a new site using a cluster of machines with a load balancer.
The reason being is that despite marketing claims, a cloud is not a magical infinitely scalable system that you can just take an existing site that's been living on a single machine and scale it out. You may be able to get dynamic scaling, but it comes at a cost (in terms of price and downtime while it resizes). At some point, you'll reach the limit of the underlying physical hardware (generally the same as a dedicated).
A cluster employs horizontal scaling, spreading out the load across multiple servers - for both apache webservers and databases. It's not a trivial change to make but it does allow you several advantages such as adding new machines to the cluster as your needs either grow or fluctuate. These machines can be part of a cloud or dedicated servers.
My recommendation normally is to use dedicated/VPSs for the core set, enough to meet minimum demand. Then spill over any excess demand into the cloud given its faster provisioning.
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04-26-2011, 01:16 PM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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Cloud hosting is one of the best, reliable and secure hosting services for less cost.
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04-26-2011, 01:24 PM #18Newbie
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04-28-2011, 07:04 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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