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    Server4You (Ongoing Review)

    Okay, so I've heard a mountain of terrible reviews about server4you and a handful of okay reviews about their dedicated server. But, their prices were far too tempting, so I'm giving it a shot.

    I'm going to continue updating my experience with them on key milestones such as when my server is up, etc.

    I've also talked to support a couple times due to some of the things people said on WHT.
    1. Their IPs are 1 dollar each now. They recently changed from $7.50/IP (Max is still 4)
    2. Their EcoServer LARGE has a long list of queue (cheapest one). If you order this on US, you WILL likely get a LONG wait. Longer than advertised. According to support, others usually 1 week (aka 5 business days).
    3. Someone on WHT have been saying that after a measly 2TB of transfer, s4y will contact you of possible abuse of their unlimited bandwidth. The support on the other hand said he did not recollect any such incidents reported in the last 6 months. Rather than suspecting, I WILL post a 100MB test file (temporarily) once I can on here so people can download to test speed for themselves. Also, I'm hoping that will exceed roughly 5 TB of bandwidth and see if I get any notices.

    2011/04/11 8:35PM EST - Ordered EcoServer BIG in their US datacenter with PayPal.

    ~ Grumpy

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    Can't edit posts....

    2011/04/12 3:46AM EST - Server delivered. Unexpected... Um... EU (Germany), not US. I thought I clicked US... but tbh, I'm really not sure. And don't really care. xD
    Last edited by Grumps; 04-12-2011 at 04:04 AM.

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    keep us updated.. and waiting for your test file, i'm interested to buy from them, but some review here made me feel uneasy about them..
    everything that can go wrong will go wrong, at the worst possible time

  4. #4
    Taken from there support:

    If you exceed 75GB per day for 7-10 days, they will restrict your connection speed to 10MBit/s and warning will be given.
    I have no idea if they are forcing this rule or not, but that's what I got from them a while ago.

    1. Their IPs are 1 dollar each now. They recently changed from $7.50/IP (Max is still 4)
    Are you sure about this?
    I just tried to add 1 more ip to a server I have there and it costs 4.2EUR/mo
    Last edited by Exigo Network; 04-12-2011 at 06:29 AM.

  5. #5
    It says $1 for more IPs for me. Also, you can see the pricesheet here
    Possibly, the IP prices have only changed for US$.


    -------------->>> http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin <<<---------------
    100MB test file. If you don't mind, please post your result of speed. I WILL NOT keep the above link valid for a long period of time.
    Server is in Germany~
    Last edited by Grumps; 04-12-2011 at 11:45 AM. Reason: more info

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    lol.. i am in 2mbit connection from Turkey. (yes it sucks, soon will get a fiber-cable)
    i see 213kb/sec. I never see that much with any download before.

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    This is from server tests:
    Code:
     wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 16:58:34--  http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.bin
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 140.99.93.175, 140.99.93.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|140.99.93.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 11.2M/s   in 9.0s
    Code:
    wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    --2011-04-12 17:00:56--  http://speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    Resolving speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com... 74.86.116.210
    Connecting to speedtest.dal01.softlayer.com|74.86.116.210|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 9.61M/s   in 14s
    Code:
     wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    --2011-04-12 17:01:46--  http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip
    Resolving speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com... 67.228.112.250
    Connecting to speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com|67.228.112.250|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,874,307 4.02M/s   in 25s
    
    2011-04-12 17:02:12 (3.97 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104874307/104874307]
    Unfortunately, I don't really know any european test files to test right now...

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumps View Post
    100MB test file. If you don't mind, please post your result of speed. I WILL NOT keep the above link valid for a long period of time.
    Server is in Germany~
    My connection's max speed is about 6Mb/sec, I got about 4mb/sec from that link, not bad at all, as I'm running UTorrent right now, as are others in the house, so it's a good speed.

    I would use Server4u, but their harddrive speeds are a bit slow for me (5400rpm is just to sluggish in this day and age, I think)

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    From Leaseweb Germany ( netdirekt ):

    Code:
    root@trout:~# wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 18:02:26--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 3.74M/s   in 38s     
    
    2011-04-12 18:03:04 (2.63 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    From OVH France:

    Code:
    root@giraffe:~# wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 16:05:27--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin.1'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 3.10M/s   in 38s     
    
    2011-04-12 16:06:04 (2.65 MB/s) - `100mb.bin.1' saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    root@giraffe:~#

    cachefly selects a server near you the nearest to you actually.

    I will post more tests from other servers that i have tonight.

    From this tests it looks like the upload speed is a bit slow, for 100mbits lines, but your download speed is correct.
    Best Regards / Melhores Cumprimentos,
    Bernardo Andrade
    Need a system Administrator?Contact me at email@bernardoa.pt
    Visit me at www.bernardoa.pt

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    I'm getting around 5 - 7 MB/s to various locations in Europe, just under 1 MB/s to Hong Kong and about 0.5 MB/s to USA.

  11. #11
    I'm probably making too many updates. I wish WHT had edits...

    This is from my other server in orlando. Very good result...
    Code:
    wget -O /dev/null http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 12:33:28--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[=========================================>] 104,857,600 11.1M/s   in 11s
    
    2011-04-12 12:33:39 (9.45 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
    but.... this from kansas city is a big facepalm... (and no, nothing seem to be wrong with this server. cachefly -> this kansas one is 11MB/s
    Code:
     wget -O /dev/null http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 20:34:36--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600  930K/s   in 3m 16s
    
    2011-04-12 20:37:53 (523 KB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

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    I downloaded the test file from my home connection. Speeds weren't that steady, throughout the test the speed was anywhere from ~800KB/s to 1.5MB/s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djs596 View Post
    I downloaded the test file from my home connection. Speeds weren't that steady, throughout the test the speed was anywhere from ~800KB/s to 1.5MB/s.
    Same.
    Varied about 200KB/s to 400KB/s on my home connection.
    I do about 1.2MB/s when downloading from CDNs.

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    I got 260KB/s steady from my home connection (2mbps line) which is maximum it could get.

    using giga-international
    Code:
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 22:42:04--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.9M/s   in 9.5s
    
    2011-04-12 22:42:14 (10.6 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Hetzner
    Code:
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 22:41:12--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 3.36M/s   in 31s
    
    2011-04-12 22:41:43 (3.25 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Softlayer (Dallas)
    Code:
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 22:43:15--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 7.96M/s   in 14s
    
    2011-04-12 22:43:30 (7.14 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    @Grumps
    Could you post your download speed with this server? I intend to buy a server for backup first..
    everything that can go wrong will go wrong, at the worst possible time

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    wiredtree

    Code:
    --22:32:25--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[=======================================>] 104,857,600 6.44M/s   in 17s
    
    22:32:41 (6.03 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]

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    More tests like i said i would do:

    Portugal ( NFSI, 1 gbit ):

    Code:
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-12 20:36:39--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 11.2M/s   in 9.4s    
    
    2011-04-12 20:36:49 (10.6 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Burstnet, UK:

    Code:
    --2011-04-12 19:35:49--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 11.2M/s   in 9.2s    
    
    2011-04-12 19:35:59 (10.9 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Burstnet, USA:

    Code:
    --2011-04-12 23:38:23--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin.2'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600  984K/s   in 4m 45s  
    
    2011-04-12 23:43:08 (359 KB/s) - `100mb.bin.2' saved [104857600/104857600]
    ubiquity networks, USA, 1gbit:

    Code:
    --2011-04-12 23:52:11--  http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'
    
    100%[==============================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 6.73M/s   in 20s     
    
    2011-04-12 23:52:30 (5.12 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Thats it.
    Best Regards / Melhores Cumprimentos,
    Bernardo Andrade
    Need a system Administrator?Contact me at email@bernardoa.pt
    Visit me at www.bernardoa.pt

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    I did some 5TB on my last month on them, never poked me about any overages, dunno. The main reason I left is the macifltered network, I need a vps or two to test stuff :/

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by addietama View Post
    @Grumps
    Could you post your download speed with this server? I intend to buy a server for backup first..
    Already did: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...66&postcount=7
    ---------------------
    And thanks everyone for putting up your stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wintereise View Post
    I did some 5TB on my last month on them, never poked me about any overages, dunno. The main reason I left is the macifltered network, I need a vps or two to test stuff :/
    Yeah, I heard that a few times, but I don't plan on running any VPS.

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    in http://www.server4you.com/root-serve...iebssystem.php
    they saying "As 64 Bit solutions we offer openSUSE, Ubuntu and Debian." So they dont offer centos5 64bit? Can you check it or ask to support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsalkorkmaz View Post
    in So they dont offer centos5 64bit? Can you check it or ask to support?
    You install OS yourself from their panel. They have CentOS 64bit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintereise View Post
    I did some 5TB on my last month on them, never poked me about any overages, dunno. The main reason I left is the macifltered network, I need a vps or two to test stuff :/
    You can run VPS just fine with mac filter.
    You just need to route it yourself, so only 1 mac address accesses the network.

    I have 1fixed ip, 2 ranges and currently 6VPS running on 1 dedicated hetzner server.
    Besides that you have a huge IPv6 allocation that can be used, and you can use internal ips, if your vps does not need direct internet access, ie. 10.0.0.x

  22. #22
    rapidspeeds
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-14 14:30:30-- http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'

    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 2.88M/s in 28s

    2011-04-14 14:30:58 (3.55 MB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    BlueMileCloud
    wget http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    --2011-04-14 14:30:50-- http://85.25.153.115/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 85.25.153.115:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin'

    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 635K/s in 2m 8s

    2011-04-14 14:32:58 (799 KB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
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    Well, it's been few months. So, I thought I'd make an update.

    Plus:
    In the 4 months time, there has been zero network/hardware failure. Though, my site went down plenty of times, but that was completely my fault.

    Neg?
    Since s4y never actually advertises their bandwidth and due to previous stories I've heard, I knew that their "unmetered 100mbit" isn't really there to burst fully all the time.
    It seems that their preferred usage of bandwidth is roughly under 75GByte/day (been told by their support when I asked). Constant heavy usage may result in cap to 10mbit. However, I've used over 10mbit for a month now... averaging 15mbit throughout the day, everyday. Peaks at 30mbit on hour average. So, I think they're (fortunately) pretty forgiving on the limit of what's reasonable compared to what their network support told me.

    I have used their support only once to ask the above question regarding bandwidth usage (answered in 1 hr - sent during business time), so, it's hard to say anything about their support from my end.

    --------------
    If anyone's looking for the 100MB test file on 1st page. It's been long gone.

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    Hello, thank you for sharing all this with the forum.

    I have a question if you can please answer;

    With other providers, there is a control panel which let's you to switch to rescue mode, to install new OS, shut down or restart the server as you like.

    My understand so far is that each one of these cost extra $$$ with server4you.

    Is this true? (Along with rDNS)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumps View Post
    Well, it's been few months. So, I thought I'd make an update.

    Plus:
    In the 4 months time, there has been zero network/hardware failure. Though, my site went down plenty of times, but that was completely my fault.

    Neg?
    Since s4y never actually advertises their bandwidth and due to previous stories I've heard, I knew that their "unmetered 100mbit" isn't really there to burst fully all the time.
    It seems that their preferred usage of bandwidth is roughly under 75GByte/day (been told by their support when I asked). Constant heavy usage may result in cap to 10mbit. However, I've used over 10mbit for a month now... averaging 15mbit throughout the day, everyday. Peaks at 30mbit on hour average. So, I think they're (fortunately) pretty forgiving on the limit of what's reasonable compared to what their network support told me.

    I have used their support only once to ask the above question regarding bandwidth usage (answered in 1 hr - sent during business time), so, it's hard to say anything about their support from my end.

    --------------
    If anyone's looking for the 100MB test file on 1st page. It's been long gone.

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    @balvenie

    Those are free.

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