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    * OnApp -howto setup

    Hey


    anyone can give me a give to the steps setting an onapp cloud for webhosting,


    I want to know what shud be done in the start,Looks like 4 servers and one NAS is given in the start!

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    The basic requirements can be found at http://onapp.com/get-onapp/hardware-requirements

    As far as I know you just supply the hardware and they set it all up for you.
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    will they ask pay for their support? after we buy the hardware

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    Quote Originally Posted by deHACKED-Jeff View Post
    will they ask pay for their support? after we buy the hardware
    Well first of all for a decent cloud setup you are looking for about $1k plus (a month). You contact there sales team and they will send you the network setup requirements. You cant just order 4 or 5 dedicated servers and it will instantly work, they need to have extra Network interface cards, all on 1GBPS connections etc. I won't go into detail, but if you are looking for a cheap cloud setup, you are not going to get it.

    We are currently in the process in talks with a DC (Who has signed an NDA) about the cloud to ensure that everything will be setup correctly and securely.
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    I am ready to pay for the hardware. Not looking for a cheap solution.
    What I needed is a guide in setting it up? Wanted to know if they provide free solutions regarding the setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deHACKED-Jeff View Post
    I am ready to pay for the hardware. Not looking for a cheap solution.
    What I needed is a guide in setting it up? Wanted to know if they provide free solutions regarding the setup?
    They do set it up for you for free that is correct. To a certain level, you need to make sure you have followed all there initial requirements when getting your dedicated server though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deHACKED-Jeff View Post
    Wanted to know if they provide free solutions regarding the setup?
    yes, the full OnApp support, setup, incl. integration to your billing systems, SAN etc. is done for free by the OnApp team. You will not get invoiced by OnApp before your 101's CPU core deployment or your first year of use.
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    Thats good to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by eming View Post
    yes, the full OnApp support, setup, incl. integration to your billing systems, SAN etc. is done for free by the OnApp team. You will not get invoiced by OnApp before your 101's CPU core deployment or your first year of use.
    I can vouch for this .

    Been using OnApp for a few months now.
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    Of all our vendors the onAPP support guyz are the most responsive. Usually a reply in minutes using email and their telephone support is great, even on a weekend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuyz View Post
    Of all our vendors the onAPP support guyz are the most responsive. Usually a reply in minutes using email and their telephone support is great, even on a weekend!

    Yeah, they have a guaranteed 15 minute response ... and it's true, every time. Sometimes faster then 15 minutes.
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    Waiting for Onapp 2.1.1 release. Hope will have great improvement on it.^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by evernet View Post
    Waiting for Onapp 2.1.1 release. Hope will have great improvement on it.^^
    Whats wrong with the current release? We are looking at OnApp now as well. Have a demo tomorrow. Already have the hardware together. What are the problems you have seen with it?

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    From my experience there are a couple issues that have put the brakes on my adoption of the technology.

    1. Support of reseller features is not yet 100% with WHMCS. Although I hear it will be in the next release.

    2. We've had multiple instances in our testing where VM's don't come back online after restarting their control panel. It should not be that "fragile" the system should be bullet proof.
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    Well I just got off the phone with them. It sounds like a good product but the price may make us keep looking..

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    Whats the best hardware for a small/beta cloud?

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    The base and the hypervisors are pretty much standard stuff. The SAN is where you have to make a careful decision. For a small operation I would suggest installing Open-E DSS V6. Works on standard hardware and you can setup a complete trial for 60 days by simply downloading the software onto a flash drive. You can also setup a second system as a redundant SAN and have failover. I believe onAPP has a relationship with Open-E where they can rent a copy of Open-E for about $50.00/mth per SAN server. A DSS 16 Terabyte license costs about $1,500.00 per server. Check with Caroline Paine [Caroline @ onapp.com] for details.

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    Any advice on SAN's, I am looking for a fail-over! Open-e is fine, its actually free for the first year, from onapp/open-e partnership.


    Thanks!

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    OnAPP is fantastic.
    According to their website >> http://onapp.com/get-onapp/pricing
    if you have less than 99 cores in your cloud, it will be free forever.

    OR

    You can use it free till 1 year while using more than 100 CPUs in a cloud
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    Are you sure, troboy?

    In other words, you won’t pay a thing for OnApp until you’ve used it for a year, or you’ve deployed 101 physical CPU cores.
    As of what I read: Its free only the first year, but if you have more then 100 CPU cores it will no longer be free(even if it is the first year). correct me if Im wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmin View Post
    Are you sure, troboy?



    As of what I read: Its free only the first year, but if you have more then 100 CPU cores it will no longer be free(even if it is the first year). correct me if Im wrong.
    You are correct on that one. But still a great deal compared to other providers. And their support is awesome.
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    Correct about the 1 year. We value OnApp greatly; keep a look out for an update coming soon next month.

    Are you doing iSCSI with the Auto Failover?

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    2 months with Onapp now and let me tell you their email support is awesome and fast, the 1st month was testing and setup, 2nd month I was already full in production, the cloud software it need a little more polish but at the moment is stable enough, whmcs is not fully integrated but they are working on it, I am very happy with the product so far and waiting for next version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmscentral View Post
    Any advice on SAN's, I am looking for a fail-over! Open-e is fine, its actually free for the first year, from onapp/open-e partnership.


    Thanks!
    We are using this san with onapp: 2x Dell 2950 + Raid-10 + windows 2008 + starwind san software + High availability.
    Last edited by OffshoreRacks; 05-02-2011 at 01:56 AM.

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    We have recently setup Onapp on our cloud server. It took 4 weeks to complete the full task including the hardware setup and all. But Onapp is a cool stuff. VPSes in less than two minutes and much more we are loving it.

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    how price

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamHC View Post
    We have recently setup Onapp on our cloud server. It took 4 weeks to complete the full task including the hardware setup and all. But Onapp is a cool stuff. VPSes in less than two minutes and much more we are loving it.
    How is the cost???

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBCRAFT-TUCKY View Post
    How is the cost???
    price is public on the OnApp website
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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBCRAFT-TUCKY View Post
    How is the cost???
    The onAPP software is not the expensive part of the cloud. its the SAN and (and redundant SAN) thats the killer. You can't go cheap here either. You can get a license for Open-E or Starwind free for a year thru onAPP, but you have to spend some good money for quality hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBCRAFT-TUCKY View Post
    How is the cost???
    Cost will depend on the hardware you choose, about the Onapp prices it is in their website.

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    Regarding the installation part of the Onapp setup:
    You will get a brief document from them with what needs to be in place before they do the rest of the installation. It's pretty easy stuff; install centos and update it.

    The only tricky part is the network setup. You need a few different networks and depending on your exisiting network layout you may need to some reconfiguring.

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    Your right you will need 4 servers and one NAS to start. This can be found on the hardware requirements on their site.

    Looks like hardware is half the story the network has to be setup in a specific way in order for the application to work correctly. This includes two firewalls, a SAN a public network and a backup network. I found this on their site under how it works network.

    Looks like a lot of work however, if you can build a business like vps.net it may be worth it.

    Good Luck

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    Will highly recommend a good management Gigabit Switch for a start, at least layer 2, support jumbo frames and that can show whats going on, this can be one of the most important aspect of the installation.
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    Yeah besides the SAN you will need multiple servers for processing, backup and controlling your platform. You will need a NFS share for your backups, an IPv4 stack you can use for distribution to your vm's (dont forget IPv6 which will be available for distribution through OnApp in Q3) and some decent knowledge on how to run a cloud hosting business.
    Last edited by Pixxa; 05-28-2011 at 05:28 PM. Reason: typo

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    For the SAN I would also recommend having dual gigabit switch for multipathing which will double your bandwidth at a very low extra money.

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