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04-07-2011, 12:35 AM #1Disabled
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Flipper Host Site Design & Content Stolen by Belvihost.com
Unfortunately we found out that Our site design & content was stolen by Belvihost.com (another WHT member who seems to be advertising here occasionally).
Not only the design was stolen but also the content was stolen and the stunning thing was the guy did not even bother to delete our company names including our parent company "invest lion" from the site and still seems to be using as is from what we see at http://www.belvihost.com
We are taking the necessary actions and sending out DMCA copyright removal orders. We also contacted our lawyer to get it on a court level although we could not yet manage to get a physical address of him.
You can see the screen shots here in case you fail to open their site;
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_index1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_index2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_tos1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_tos2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_aup1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_aup2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_hosting1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_hosting2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_reseller1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_reseller2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_vps1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_vps2.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_privacy1.jpg
http://www.flipperhost.com/stolen_privacy2.jpg
Also this is the 5th. time we are sending out DMCA and second time going to be taking legal action in the last 12 months and we are already tired of it. So we would like to find a way to secure our design from thieves like Belvihost thus if anyone knows how to secure a site in this sense please do contact us or at least a comment explaining it shortly would be well appreciated.
Our purpose of going public about the issue is simply to let the valuable WHT community beware of thieves as well as letting the moderators know about him thus maybe future headaches he will cause to the community could be prevented.
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04-07-2011, 01:10 AM #2
What HostDime abuse department replied to your DMCA takedown request?
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04-07-2011, 01:39 AM #3Disabled
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I had to gather screenshots from his site and all so I have just sent the DMCA takedown request about 20 minutes ago. So still waiting their reply.
All my dedicated and VPS servers are with Hostdime so I believe they shall answer me soon.
How ironic that server which belongs to groupe1euro.net who is the ISP of belvihost.com is at the same datacenter with my dedicated.
Oh my my... now he's gonna steal my tiger as well
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04-07-2011, 01:16 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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I see the footer shows them as "blevihost" and their domain is belivihost.com. Possibly more evidence of incompetence. Maybe its a lead to their physical location.
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04-07-2011, 01:26 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Just a thought. I wonder if Belvihost or Blevihost (whichever they are) also bought their design from Payton Designs as did Flipper Host?
Did Flipper Host buy a unique design from Payton?
Does Payton retain the right to resale?
I don't think this is the first time this kind of discussion has surfaced.Last edited by TechniSmart; 04-07-2011 at 01:27 AM. Reason: typos
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04-07-2011, 01:32 AM #6Disabled
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Please check their Tos, Aup and Privacy Policy pages and you'll understand that they stole it deliberately. (Our company names're all over these pages which proves he stole it)
Payton is good or bad is a different story though he was talented and wouldn't design a site which the domain page contact us page and much more wouldn't work.
BTW thank you for your supporting words replying me on his ad.
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04-07-2011, 10:20 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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04-07-2011, 02:11 AM #8Disabled
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Flipper Host bought a unique design from Payton and no Payton does not retain the right to resale and has provided us with adequate documentation to prove that Flipper Host is the sole owner of the design.
But the thing is after Payton some very talented and very well known designers such as Harzem (Harzem Designs) and Mikael (Pixelmixtures) has revamped our Site design which made it unique in every way and we have proof of ownership for nearly every single part on our website.
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04-07-2011, 02:31 AM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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This is very bad situation. WE must be attention like this kind of member and seller who is belvihost. Dear Ceko,take care good yourself. I think everything will be solved from authorities. Thank you for your services.
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04-07-2011, 01:37 AM #10Disabled
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Hostgator has many people making designs similar to them, but nobody is complaining..
I think u rather shud not complain against belvihost but the designer whom u both must have paid for the same dsesign..there is no other means belvihost got the design, probably the same designer is selling the design to many other hosts
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04-07-2011, 01:46 AM #11Disabled
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No he did not get it from the same designer he obviously stole it and you can see it on Tos, aup and privacy pages.
Why would I ever care what hostgator does that is none of my business and have nothing to learn from you nor from Hostgator.
This design is nowhere similar it is 100% stolen ripoff.
How would you know that he is kind of a guy who would pay for his design and not steal it?
Since when hosting companies are asking you if they should complain or not? If 1 day you get to have a hosting company and someone steals your design you can have the right to not complain that is none of my business. But I complain about that thief as he stole my property and not yours.
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04-07-2011, 01:49 AM #12Cloud & Web Hosting Specialist
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That is a very serious accusation and I will advise you to not comment unless you have proper proofs about the situation.
If you checked through the website you can clearly see that it is ripped and the ripper did not even take the time to remove some reference to the original design.
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04-07-2011, 01:49 AM #13Disabled
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For clearing things out, This design was designed by Payton 2 years ago though Harzem and few more designers has worked on it thus this thief has my latest (2 months ago) design changes applied to his site thus there is no doubt that he stole /ripped and did not get it through any designer.
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04-07-2011, 01:56 AM #14Disabled
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My site design has a much more complicated design history which is most probably beyond your imagination indiagirl and it is obviously not one of those designs you talking about getting sold to several people cause it has been revamped so many times that even Payton would have a hesitation on some areas to show if it was his design or not anymore.
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04-07-2011, 02:02 AM #15Disabled
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Can you guys believe that he uses the "Flipper Host" our company name 34 times on Tos, 8 times on Aup and 1 time on Privacy Policy pages. Any more hesitations?
Last edited by Ceko; 04-07-2011 at 02:03 AM. Reason: misspelling
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04-07-2011, 02:15 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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Sorry to hear about that I'm sure Host dimes abuse department will be able to assist you.
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04-07-2011, 03:15 AM #17Disabled
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We have found out that the guy lives in Tunisia http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1017399 just as the previous thief was http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...st+site+design we had located that ones national id number, full name and home address I wonder if they are the same people.
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04-07-2011, 03:44 AM #18Corporate Member
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It's a pain chasing scumbags like this, I feel for you. Is WHT going to ban obvious scammers/thieves like this?
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04-07-2011, 04:47 AM #19Disabled
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04-07-2011, 09:31 AM #20Web Hosting Evangelist
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Good luck with everything.
Someone whom can't take the time to design it themselves or pay someone shouldn't be running a company.
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04-07-2011, 09:48 AM #21Temporarily Suspended
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Wow, letalone did they rip your design the fact they didn't even edit some of the text just shocks me, how stupid can they be?
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04-07-2011, 11:40 AM #22Disabled
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Got his ip number as 145.24.215.109 people who care about their own designs shall block this ip. On the other hand his who is info is fake and even though he admits that he is from Tunisia on a thread on WHT still we got some evidence the company could be in Netherlands. We are trying to get in touch and get info through Netherlands chamber of commerce although Dutch is a language which we do not understand.
His site also being still up making us feel nervous.
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04-07-2011, 01:22 PM #23Disabled
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I have recieved an answer stating that his hosting account was fully terminated by his ISP and they would no longer give service to him. His site also seems to be down by his service provider as far as I can see now. Although this is not adequate to our loss as we lost sleep and got frustrated for our hard work and ideas being stolen.
We found it even more frustrating how few people would even justify the action of a thief and dared advising us that we shouldn't even be complaining about our hard earned property being stolen. Them giving that much credit to a thief for our property shall also prove the similar kin of them.Last edited by Ceko; 04-07-2011 at 01:36 PM.
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04-07-2011, 07:54 PM #24Newbie
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Dear Ceko,
I see you have been making response on all articles I have posted saying that I am a stealer and talking about stealing the flipper host design, so I want it to make it clear for you and your company. For Belvihost, I am just a Sales Operator, my job there is to make ads and bring customers and I am not responsible for the site design and the site content, I am just a commission based employee so I can't be held responsible for the fault of site owner and company owner. Maybe he have stolen your design or maybe he have bought it from a designer which stolen it before or maybe he bought it from the same designer as you if you didn't pay for a unique design.
Anyway I just wanted to make it clear that I am not responsible for website content and design, I am just a simple employee !
Thanks for your attention.
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04-07-2011, 11:39 PM #25Web Hosting Master
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I see where your coming from how ever no your boss did not buy it from payton designs its clearly stolen as flipper host content is in there.
Anyhow aside from that yes I agree where you are a simply employee there and not responsible but take in mind its obvious your boss ripped this design, or if he bought it id hate to say hes quite incompetent to not review the content etc and research.〓〓 RackNerd LLC - Introducing Infrastructure Stability
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