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    What dose it take to make cloud hosting

    Hi, what do you need to make cloud hosting, and to provide it to others

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    Typically, you're going to need a big pile of hardware and the software to manage the cloud. Check out http://www.openstack.org/. With OpenStack, you'll get the software you need to manage your cloud. As far as offering it to others, that'll require integrating either an existing Control Panel (such as cPanel) with OpenStack or building your own Control Panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgrannum18 View Post
    Hi, what do you need to make cloud hosting, and to provide it to others
    This is what I've come to learn as we began planning our Cloud. You'll need:

    Patience, time, money and more patience. Having a big hot glass of tea or coffee and a pack of smokes doesn't hurt either, haha
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    Cloud hosting helps organizations maximize their organization's resources and align their IT services with their business needs.

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    it's pretty much what Vazapi-Curtis say, I like it. :-) My version would be:

    Endurance, will, lot of time for coding work, and lots and lots of money. Then you get the real cloud to offer. Anything less, and you get something which you can make it sound cloudy on your homepage, but it won't be the real cloud.

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    It's a massive undertaking including changing your company's culture from viewing hosting as a real-estate play to viewing it as an engineering play, which means hiring good in-house developers and building a developer-centric culture.

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    Cloud hosting almost same with on demand hosting. Means you pay what you use. Nowadays there have plenty of unlimited hosting package but have you really think do you really need that much or unlimited resources for your website? Normally consumer is pay more that they use. Therefore, cloud hosting come to our mind which allow the consumer to pay what they use.

    As for the technology, you can try to check out the application that provided by mor.ph. However, there are plenty of cloud technology out there and you should be able to get more info when you google it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgrannum18 View Post
    Hi, what do you need to make cloud hosting, and to provide it to others
    • provisioning api
    • network api
    • monitoring api
    • (failover) control api
    • billing api
    • resilient storage system


    and of course the hardware to house it. I use the term api loosely as there are a few turnkey solutions out there that don't expose an external API, but otherwise provide the above functionality. Open source stacks are in a pretty poor state, each meeting only two or three on the above list.

    On top of that, strictly related to hosting, you also need to know how to structure and setup loadbalancers and database replication properly, and not just rely on the underlying VM failover.

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    You take one ton of bullsh*t, then mix it with ...

    Sorry, I just had to say that.

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    I think it takes experience to create a cloud hosting solution and provide it to others.

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    Take a look at OnApp for the software portion.

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    just don't do it on a clear day.
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    Personally for me. Cloud means more than just virtualization. This maybe just because of Applogic, but our whole infrastructure from the ground up is N+1. N+1 on power supplies, storage, servers, etc etc.

    Server failures happen, its how we deal with it or in Applogics case, don't deal with it is what makes it good. Sort of hard to explain. But if you do it right, you will be better off. Most prepackaged cloud solutions out right now will require a SAN's unit, Applogic doesn't require a sans unit as it creates a IP based SAN's solution using hard drives in each server.

    So depends on what your looking for, and what you want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgrannum18 View Post
    Hi, what do you need to make cloud hosting, and to provide it to others
    Not much. You can start as a partner/reseller - there are dozens of providers that allow you to re-sell resources in "your very own cloud".

    But if you need a real thing - buy a data center.

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    Don't know if you have to go to that extreme. But there are plenty of people you can partner with to were you can atlease get your own Private Cloud. I'd watch out from companies like Softlayer, Who offer a "private cloud" but is not truly private.

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    There is a cloud computing definition and characteristics on different level of service: SaaS, PaaS, IaaS.

    http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/dr...definition.pdf

    It doesn't talk about hardware, but about goals and benefits. That should be a good start.

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    I think some people on this board will take exception to the NIST definitions. Considering that SolusVM/WHCMS/Paypal basically meets their definition of a cloud as long as you have spare capacity (available orders).


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