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12-25-2010, 01:36 PM #1Newbie
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thePlanet (SoftLayer) vs. iWeb
Hi,
I have two dedicated servers: powerful server at Softlayer and budget server at iWeb. I have a growing startup which needs 20Tb traffic per month, and it seems that I need an additional RAM now. However, Softlayer is very expensive at hardware upgrades. Softlayer wants $50/month per 2Gb RAM while iWeb wants only $20. Also my server at Softlayer has a config below:
2 x Xeon 2.00GHz, 2Gb RAM, 2x250Gb HDD, 10Tb bandwidth. It costs $250 per month.
iWeb has a special offer:
2 x Xeon Quad 2.13GHz, 12Gb RAM (!!!), 2x1Tb HDD (!!!), 10Tb bandwidth. cPanel included. Price is $279.
So I'm confused. Maybe it's better to migrate to iWeb? However, I don't know how fast and good it is. Maybe, thePlanet (Softlayer) has better channel/data center, and it's better to stay with Sortlayer? But with additional 2Gb RAM server will cost $300(!!!). It's very expensive for this config.
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12-25-2010, 01:44 PM #2Web Hosting Industry Expert
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Get with sales at Softlayer, chances are you can get it at around $15/gb which isn't as cheap as $10/gb but Softlayer, imho, is a premium provider so it's worth it.
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12-25-2010, 02:12 PM #3Corporate Member
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If I had the choice between the two, I'd personally go with iWeb. Softlayer will need to answer some questions and fix some things before they get back on the good list (See FileVo, SimpleCDN, and others).
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12-25-2010, 02:42 PM #5Disabled
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definitely i'll go with Softlayer better services then iWeb
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12-25-2010, 03:38 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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You guys must be crazy. You're talking like Softlayer has the awesomest network ever - it's not that special. And with the latest developments (see a few posts above) it's even more riskier to stay with Softlayer.
I'd go with the better hardware anyway - what good is fast network when all your websites will be slow to process and serve because that hardware is slow and has little memory?
The faster hardware would counteract the bigger latency to your users (if any) and would also give you the opportunity to expand and improve your site, for example by using memory caching, php accelerators and stuff you wouldn't use with the little memory Softlayer gives you by default and so on
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12-25-2010, 03:45 PM #7
We are currently with iWeb, their network is pretty good and we have used Softlayer in the past and I do admit they were good as well.
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12-25-2010, 03:52 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Softlayer is not the same thing as The Planet. Yet.
I was planning to leave The Planet but take a look at these just-ping results:
ping: www.theplanet.com (Check http://www.theplanet.com/)
Location Result min. rrt avg. rrt max. rrt IP
Singapore, Singapore: Okay 241.1 244.0 249.2 70.87.6.117
Amsterdam2, Netherlands: Okay 122.8 123.0 123.1 70.87.6.117
Florida, U.S.A.: Okay 35.4 35.6 36.0 70.87.6.117
Amsterdam3, Netherlands: Okay 122.6 122.7 122.8 70.87.6.117
Hong Kong, China: Okay 227.6 237.1 247.0 70.87.6.117
Sydney, Australia: Okay 198.2 198.4 199.0 70.87.6.117
München, Germany: Okay 128.4 128.7 129.1 70.87.6.117
Cologne, Germany: Okay 129.3 129.5 129.7 70.87.6.117
New York, U.S.A.: Okay 41.8 45.1 51.0 70.87.6.117
Stockholm, Sweden: Okay 135.9 136.0 136.3 70.87.6.117
Santa Clara, U.S.A.: Okay 51.8 52.3 52.8 70.87.6.117
Vancouver, Canada: Okay 46.4 46.9 47.2 70.87.6.117
Krakow, Poland: Okay 144.0 145.0 146.8 70.87.6.117
London, United Kingdom: Okay 106.9 107.4 107.7 70.87.6.117
Madrid, Spain: Okay 148.7 149.1 149.6 70.87.6.117
Padova, Italy: Okay 154.0 159.0 164.4 70.87.6.117
Austin, U.S.A.: Okay 5.7 5.8 6.0 70.87.6.117
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Okay 130.8 131.1 132.0 70.87.6.117
Paris, France: Okay 124.3 125.2 132.1 70.87.6.117
Melbourne, Australia: Okay 211.7 212.4 214.0 70.87.6.117
Shanghai, China: Okay 191.3 191.7 192.1 70.87.6.117
Copenhagen, Denmark: Okay 128.1 128.2 128.4 70.87.6.117
Lille, France: Okay 115.6 116.0 118.3 70.87.6.117
San Francisco, U.S.A.: Okay 46.5 47.0 47.5 70.87.6.117
Zurich, Switzerland: Okay 187.4 187.8 188.0 70.87.6.117
Mumbai, India: Okay 277.3 277.9 278.9 70.87.6.117
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 28.4 28.6 28.7 70.87.6.117
Nagano, Japan: Okay 209.7 209.7 209.9 70.87.6.117
Haifa, Israel:
Auckland, New Zealand: Okay 194.4 194.6 194.9 70.87.6.117
Antwerp, Belgium: Okay 126.1 133.7 140.0 70.87.6.117
Groningen, Netherlands: Okay 126.9 130.9 135.5 70.87.6.117
Moscow, Russia: Okay 170.6 170.7 170.8 70.87.6.117
Dublin, Ireland: Okay 117.6 117.8 118.1 70.87.6.117
Oslo, Norway: Okay 135.2 139.3 144.2 70.87.6.117
Kharkov, Ukraine: Okay 232.2 235.1 238.9 70.87.6.117
Manchester, United Kingdom: Okay 111.8 112.3 115.8 70.87.6.117
Vilnius, Lithuania: Okay 150.1 160.0 186.2 70.87.6.117
Ashburn, U.S.A.: Okay 34.1 34.3 34.5 70.87.6.117
Bucharest, Romania: Okay 155.4 155.9 156.8 70.87.6.117
Bangkok, Thailand: Okay 240.8 241.0 241.3 70.87.6.117
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia: Packets lost (10%) 223.6 225.7 230.8 70.87.6.117
Jakarta, Indonesia: Okay 260.8 262.9 271.6 70.87.6.117
Cape Town, South Africa: Okay 260.2 262.1 266.6 70.87.6.117
Glasgow, United Kingdom: Okay 120.4 120.6 121.8 70.87.6.117
Lisbon, Portugal: Okay 137.4 137.8 138.5 70.87.6.117
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 34.3 34.5 34.8 70.87.6.117
Dallas, U.S.A.: Okay 1.8 2.0 2.1 70.87.6.117
ping: www.softlayer.com (Check http://www.softlayer.com/)
Location Result min. rrt avg. rrt max. rrt IP
Singapore, Singapore: Okay 248.0 248.2 248.9 66.228.118.51
Amsterdam2, Netherlands: Okay 138.6 138.9 139.1 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Florida, U.S.A.: Okay 35.5 35.8 36.2 66.228.118.51
Amsterdam3, Netherlands: Okay 138.1 138.5 138.8 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Hong Kong, China: Okay 192.3 192.9 193.2 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Sydney, Australia: Okay 192.2 192.6 194.1 66.228.118.51
München, Germany: Okay 151.0 151.2 151.4 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Cologne, Germany: Okay 154.1 155.3 160.4 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
New York, U.S.A.: Okay 42.9 43.1 43.3 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Stockholm, Sweden: Okay 168.8 168.9 169.1 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Santa Clara, U.S.A.: Okay 52.3 52.7 53.1 66.228.118.51
Vancouver, Canada: Okay 66.3 66.5 66.7 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Krakow, Poland: Okay 141.8 143.9 146.8 66.228.118.51
London, United Kingdom: Okay 131.8 132.3 132.7 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Madrid, Spain: Okay 146.9 147.6 150.3 66.228.118.51
Padova, Italy: Okay 143.4 154.1 165.5 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Austin, U.S.A.: Okay 32.6 33.0 33.3 66.228.118.51
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Okay 129.1 129.4 129.9 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Paris, France: Okay 120.3 120.7 121.7 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Melbourne, Australia: Okay 210.1 210.8 211.2 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Shanghai, China: Okay 196.3 207.7 219.1 66.228.118.51
Copenhagen, Denmark: Okay 125.2 125.4 125.5 66.228.118.51
Lille, France: Okay 122.1 122.3 122.8 66.228.118.51
San Francisco, U.S.A.: Okay 45.7 46.4 47.4 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Zurich, Switzerland: Okay 132.3 132.5 133.0 66.228.118.51
Mumbai, India: Okay 250.3 254.6 263.0 66.228.118.51
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 29.9 30.5 31.5 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Nagano, Japan: Okay 153.7 155.1 157.1 66.228.118.51
Haifa, Israel:
Auckland, New Zealand: Okay 158.0 158.2 158.3 66.228.118.51
Antwerp, Belgium: Okay 129.5 131.8 135.1 66.228.118.51
Groningen, Netherlands: Okay 124.9 125.4 126.0 66.228.118.51
Moscow, Russia: Unknown result from ping 2607:f0d0:1000:11:1::1
Dublin, Ireland: Okay 117.6 117.9 118.3 66.228.118.51
Oslo, Norway: Okay 139.8 143.3 146.3 66.228.118.51
Kharkov, Ukraine: Okay 164.5 165.6 166.9 66.228.118.51
Manchester, United Kingdom: Okay 112.1 112.3 112.5 66.228.118.51
Vilnius, Lithuania: Okay 146.4 147.3 153.3 66.228.118.51
Ashburn, U.S.A.: Okay 34.5 34.7 35.0 66.228.118.51
Bucharest, Romania: Okay 155.2 155.7 156.8 66.228.118.51
Bangkok, Thailand: Okay 242.2 242.6 242.9 66.228.118.51
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia: Okay 224.5 225.7 228.4 66.228.118.51
Jakarta, Indonesia: Okay 258.9 260.1 266.9 66.228.118.51
Cape Town, South Africa: Okay 269.1 270.2 274.8 66.228.118.51
Glasgow, United Kingdom: Okay 120.4 120.7 121.2 66.228.118.51
Lisbon, Portugal: Okay 141.7 142.2 142.5 66.228.118.51
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 25.0 25.1 25.3 66.228.118.51
Dallas, U.S.A.: Okay 1.6 1.8 2.0 66.228.118.51You will only find out how good a provider is when the going gets tough
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12-25-2010, 04:00 PM #10Living in the Virtual World
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Of course if you factor that in, but that's an obvious business move that had to be made. If you were in their position, what would have been different?
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12-25-2010, 05:11 PM #11Newbie
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Just-ping shows me a little bit less average ping to my iWeb server than thePlanet server. However, pings from US cities are better at thePlanet.
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12-25-2010, 11:01 PM #13Eternal Member
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While we're talking about "obvious business moves" I would first start by not offering 100tb when it's economically unfeasible to provide it on a large scale to those who actually intend on using it.
Naturally, as ThePlanet is in the central US while iWeb is in Canada.
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12-25-2010, 11:55 PM #14Marketing Maestro
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+1 for iWeb
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12-26-2010, 01:03 AM #15Retired Moderator
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IWeb all the way. They are a good datacenter and given the config they offered you should jump at it.
Softlayer has to work out some issues IMO so go with Iweb.CloudNexus Technology Services
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12-26-2010, 01:17 AM #16Junior Guru
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SoftLayer has one of the best networks i have seen.
There private networks make backups great.
Sadly most people dont know how to use there private network.
I backup 50+ GB a day (nightly backups) to off site raid disks.
I can only say good stuff for softlayer.
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12-26-2010, 03:03 AM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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+1 for SoftLayer as well. They don't have anything to explain to anyone on this board. All of the rampant speculation and wild accusations are pure hearsay. SoftLayer has handled each of these situations professionally by refusing to violate their privacy policy. As a customer I would have a much much bigger problem with them if they responded publicly to an internal matter between themselves and their customers. The fact of the matter is that nobody has the facts except SoftLayer and their customers. It's none of our business what goes on between them.
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they are being accused of cutting off the servers of their clients without proper due notice as outlined in your tos, and instead terminated them with tickets saying 'now'. directly by their clients.
all they have done to respond to this has been to issue a statement saying 'we can talk about the affairs of our clients'.
this wasnt an affair of their client. they were being accused of violating their own tos, directly. and they were going to be sued.Last edited by unity100; 12-26-2010 at 03:12 AM.
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12-26-2010, 12:24 PM #20Newbie
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I'm confused. Hardware upgrades at Softlayer are sooo expensive. Also they don't have any promotions and special offers like thePlanet had very often. I think I will go with iWeb (2Gb RAM vs. 12Gb RAM, 2x250Gb HDD vs. 2x1000Gb HDD -- Softlayer can't beat this offer). I'd prefer to migrate to another server within the Softlayer datacenter but they don't have any good offers. I've been using thePlanet dedicated server for several years but the price for this server still same at price list.
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12-26-2010, 01:08 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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The network of Iweb is really good, especially considering the value for money. I can't remember when I had a network-related issue with Iweb last. Also connectivity to Europe is ok.
Iweb's new "Smart server" offerings are nice, they run on Supermicro chassis if I am not mistaken.
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12-26-2010, 02:05 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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I see on SoftLayer's site that they are offering a special on HD and RAM upgrades until tomorrow:
http://www.softlayer.com/specials/
Looks like a decent deal to me.
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12-26-2010, 02:40 PM #23Newbie
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2ameeriklane:
Look at bandwidth they offer. It's only 3000Gb per month. It's not possible to get a 10Tb bandwidth at Softlayer. My 10Tb server is a summer promo at thePlanet so I can't use this "double ram" offer since they offer only 3Tb.
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I have a good experience with SoftLayer
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Go with Iweb
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