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  1. #1
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    Cheap 1U server capable of running xenserver

    Hello,

    I'm looking for cheap(<450) 1U machines that we can install XenServer on.
    Does anyone know where I can find something like this? All I can find is atoms which AFAIK won't support virtualization.

    All I need is case+psu+mobo+cpu with 2 onboard nics, power usage isn't an issue.

    These will be used for monitoring remote sites (wireless radio towers)

    Thanks to anyone who can help.

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    eBay. Best place. Pick up some dell poweredge R200 or 860's.
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    You may be able to get an old 1950, but RAM is going to put you over budget a little. I don't think you can pull it off new unless total junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnify View Post
    All I can find is atoms which AFAIK won't support virtualization.
    Atoms support paravirtualization with Xen, so it depends what OS you're going to be running inside.
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    Pick up a dell R210 for about $650 something, you should be set. X3430, 4gb ram etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bqinternet View Post
    Atoms support paravirtualization with Xen, so it depends what OS you're going to be running inside.
    He plans on running XenServer (Citrix) which is centered around HVM, and I'm pretty sure it will refuse to install on non-virtualization capable hardware.
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    You'll not get many hosts on a machine you purchased for <$450 how many are you looking at?

    While you can put VM's on such low spec machines you would probably not want to. Is the virtualization a requirement? Can you not run multiple instances of the program on the same machine as your disk I/0 will be dire.
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    for a brand new server, you'll be hard pressed to beat $600 or so on quality hardware

    $200 supermicro mobo w/ipmi
    $60 4gb ram
    $120 i3-540
    $100 1u case
    ~$100 hard drive
    =
    $580 before taxes and shipping

    maybe can save a bit on the hard drive I guess, and if you really want to, could get a cheaper desktop grade motherboard, but still going to have a hard time hitting under $450 on a machine with decent quality parts, let alone specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkywizard View Post
    maybe can save a bit on the hard drive I guess
    Please no, how can you expect to run several operating systems of a single consumer grade hard disk is beyond me. If you serious about doing VM's you'll need a decent controller and an array or very fast disks. The iops are whats important.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelT View Post
    Please no, how can you expect to run several operating systems of a single consumer grade hard disk is beyond me. If you serious about doing VM's you'll need a decent controller and an array or very fast disks. The iops are whats important.


    http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/dat...age-array/2182
    I said "can", not "should".

    A good configuration would be:

    4x raid edition sata drives in raid 10
    quad core xeon cpu
    16-32gb ram

    etc.

    Obviously that's well outside the $450 budget. I'm hoping the OP is looking to do non-critical stuff on here, with the low budget. On that assumption, you *could* get a cheaper hard drive, "I guess". I wouldn't recommend it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkywizard View Post
    I said "can", not "should".

    A good configuration would be:

    4x raid edition sata drives in raid 10
    quad core xeon cpu
    16-32gb ram

    Umm that's still an unbalanced system. You need to be using 15k SAS's if your going for so few hard disk and this still config might not be good to the OP if he's running 4 1GB VM's.

    You would need to know more about what he's planning to do before making detailed recommendations.

    The point still remains that skipping on hard disks is the last thing you want to do when building a machine for VM's. If your going SATA IMHO you either better be running Raptors because of the 10k spindle speed or have one hell of a large 7.2K array.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastServ View Post
    He plans on running XenServer (Citrix) which is centered around HVM, and I'm pretty sure it will refuse to install on non-virtualization capable hardware.
    The installer gives a warning if there's no VT/AMD-V but will install just fine, and you can run Linux guests in PV mode without issue. However, HVM guests won't run at all. This includes Windows, but also booting a VM from a rescue CD won't work.
    http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer...uirements-host

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