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02-15-2011, 04:05 PM #26Web Hosting Master
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Are they onNet in your building? If so, that pricing is seroiusly out of line. I'd be happy to send you details for my rep. twtelecom definitely places a premium on their network, but I'll put it this way - back in the day, we only paid them $30/Mbps for 100Mbps over gigabit and they had to do a build into our facility.
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02-15-2011, 07:20 PM #27Aspiring Evangelist
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We use time warner cable in Cincinnati and we have been happy with them. One of the few providers we could get to build out into our site with a pretty low commit. Obviously twcable doesnt really compare to xo or level 3, but im guessing they would be competitive on price, and plus this would get you on their backbone to lots of home cable modem users which may be an advantage to you.
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02-15-2011, 09:06 PM #28Web Hosting Master
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time warner cable and twtelecom are two entirely different companies ...
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02-15-2011, 09:24 PM #29Retired Moderator
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02-15-2011, 09:34 PM #30Web Hosting Master
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XO used to be horrendous, but have gotten their act together a bit in the past couple years. Network has always been rock solid for us, but their billing/custserv used to be the worst---but that seems to have been rectified lately. Still, they are not competitive on transit at all, but reasonably priced on transport.
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02-15-2011, 10:03 PM #31Web Hosting Master
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Network was bad in LA, frequent issues. We tried XO several times over the years and now they are in our permanently banned list.
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02-15-2011, 10:04 PM #32Rockin' the beer gut
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02-16-2011, 12:15 AM #33Aspiring Evangelist
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02-16-2011, 01:27 AM #34Web Hosting Master
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02-16-2011, 10:57 AM #35Web Hosting Master
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Keep hoping, but don't hold your breath. I'll jump on the dogpile with another "stay far away from XO" comment.
My experience with their sales team was the worst of any business, in any industry, I've every dealt with. The word incompetent doesn't tell even half the story of my experience with them. Their network has regular outages-- not those which affect a single group of circuits in a POP, but "national routing issues". Fiber paths are long and winding, with higher latency the result. I've posted other rants about XO here at WHT as well, so I won't repeat myself here.
Word of advice, learn from the misery of others and forget about XO if you're at all concerned about a quality trnaist provider-- or your sanity.
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02-16-2011, 11:59 AM #36Web Hosting Master
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Yeah were more interested with twtelecom now, they just dropped 100Mbit commit on Gig for $15/Mbit and it became much more clear they want to do business.
We can afford to eat that provided their network is strong, from what we've used it at our Peak10 location it is a good solid core.
They are buying us lunch next week.. see what we can do!'
Thanks everyone'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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02-16-2011, 12:14 PM #37Into the night
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Good luck with TWTC and let us know how it goes!
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02-16-2011, 12:27 PM #38Web Hosting Master
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Maybe I missed this answer, but $45/Mbps on what commit? I was recently quoted 1/3 that price on a 100 Mbps.
EDIT: Oops, Visbits answered that part.
Re. TWTC quality, my experience with them was very positive-- with the disclaimer that it's been mid-2000's since I last used them directly. We had a full 100M at their Tampa POP and reliability was great.
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02-16-2011, 02:37 PM #39Web Hosting Master
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We've never had any trouble with twtelecom's network.
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02-16-2011, 05:14 PM #40Web Hosting Master
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I'm rather excited now that I've further ran the numbers and it looks like we will be able to run a full BGP pool with them without any concern.
Now to find a 3rd provider down the road.. I'm really hoping we can get HE.'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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