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    The Bluehost Sellout?

    From the excerpt of the article below, it looks like Bluehost has been sold to Endurance International.

    From here:
    On Monday, U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball granted Koch Industries' request for accelerated discovery from subpoenas it issued to FastDomain Inc. and Bluehost Inc., both based out of the same office in Provo, Utah. The companies are owned by parent company Endurance International Group Inc.


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    That would be news to me. I haven't heard of EIG buying Blue Host, although Mattie has mentioned he may want to sell at some point in the near future. May be incorrect information in that article...

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    The sale is not a surprise to me, though I didn't have a confirmation it was EIG who bought them. The number of big independent hosts is getting smaller by the day.

    It's interesting to see Endurance buying up cPanel based hosts (Justhost last year), and not announce it to the world. I guess it's better for them when people are unaware of the connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCrowley View Post
    That would be news to me. I haven't heard of EIG buying Blue Host, although Mattie has mentioned he may want to sell at some point in the near future. May be incorrect information in that article...
    Indications of Bluehost selling out to EIG surfaced on the internet around Nov. 07, 2010 in a twitter post:

    BlueHost sold to Endurance International. I'm sure that wasn't cheap considering their current yearly revenue exceeds $85 million per year.
    Only time will tell if the information is correct or not. One thing is for certain niether EIG nor Bluehost has said anything publicly of such a transaction.

    Interestingly enough EIG was silent after the acquisition of Justhost as well.


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    Matt's LinkedIn profile hasn't changed yet:
    http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=51961872

    Although he stopped updating his personal blog on Nov. 13. I guess if Blue Host was sold, then so was hostmonster (his other holding).

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    I've actually heard rumors about this for awhile. One thing I am curious to know is how much it was sold for and if they plan to make any changes?
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    I've actually heard rumors about this for awhile. One thing I am curious to know is how much it was sold for and if they plan to make any changes?
    Generally once a companies reputation is tarnished it is hard to get it back, however, in saying this people still choose both the companies that were owned, so makes you wonder
    But then it would be great to see a change.
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    It's not a rumor, they were acquired by EIG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrow-Sean View Post
    Generally once a companies reputation is tarnished it is hard to get it back, however, in saying this people still choose both the companies that were owned, so makes you wonder
    But then it would be great to see a change.
    This is true, I guess only time will tell.
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    Everyone knows how "great" bluehost is! I wonder if they will "new and improve" them.

    let's hope they tame them
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    So I wonder if their TOS will change to allow cussing on your own website? Also, I find it interesting that Matt had a moral issue with cussing and porn being on his servers, but no issue selling his customers to group of known craphole creators who care for nothing but the root of all evil?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwrunyon View Post
    So I wonder if their TOS will change to allow cussing on your own website? Also, I find it interesting that Matt had a moral issue with cussing and porn being on his servers, but no issue selling his customers to group of known craphole creators who care for nothing but the root of all evil?
    Where in their TOS does it prohibit cursing?

    Why is it bad they sold? No one really knows the agreements - for all we know nothing changes in the operation aside from the fact EIG now is the primary owner. Businesses as large as BlueHost simply don't change overnight. As far as I know JustHost didn't have too many operational changes (albeit I haven't followed them closely).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyRo View Post
    Where in their TOS does it prohibit cursing?
    Bluehost TOS:
    Profanity. Profanity or profane subject matter in the site content and in the domain name are prohibited.
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    Obscene, Defamatory, Abusive or Threatening Language. Use of the Services to store, post, transmit, display or otherwise make available obscene, defamatory, harassing, abusive or threatening language is prohibited.


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    I don't think any changes would happen so quick. It may take some time for them to make changes and if they do what would you members & bluehost clients like for them to change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyRo View Post

    Why is it bad they sold? No one really knows the agreements - for all we know nothing changes in the operation aside from the fact EIG now is the primary owner.
    From a marketing perspective it will position the EIG companies very well concerning the "top ten hosting review" type of sites. In many cases they will hold 7 out of 10 spots on such a site.

    By acquiring Fastdomain, EIG becomes an instant ICANN registrar.

    EIG may integrate the SimpleScripts auto installer in their other brands.

    But at this point only EIG knows what they desire to do with Bluehost. So everything from outside the loop is just speculation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyPenguin View Post
    EIG may integrate the SimpleScripts auto installer in their other brands.
    That's assuming SimpleScripts is part of the acquisition since it's a separate legal entity from BlueHost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tws View Post
    That's assuming SimpleScripts is part of the acquisition since it's a separate legal entity from BlueHost.
    Right I was making the assumption SimpleScripts was included in the deal, which may or may not be correct.

    I guess only time will tell see how everything in this acquisition unfolds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LongArms View Post
    I don't think any changes would happen so quick. It may take some time for them to make changes and if they do what would you members & bluehost clients like for them to change?
    I have my blog and forum hosted with BlueHost. I also have 2 dozens + domains registered with them.

    I wish the new owner and operator (EIG) stops the "sudden shutdown" of sites on shared domains without prior notices. If need be, they may consider offering limited disk space and bandwidth to cut down some of the problems.

    Perhaps, they may consider offering "reseller" packages too
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    Word filters anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IhsanHost View Post
    I wish the new owner and operator (EIG) stops the "sudden shutdown" of sites on shared domains without prior notices. If need be, they may consider offering limited disk space and bandwidth to cut down some of the problems.
    Looking at EIG's past track record, I wouldn't hold your breath of the wishes you desire coming true any time soon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyPenguin View Post
    Looking at EIG's past track record, I wouldn't hold your breath of the wishes you desire coming true any time soon?
    Then, it's time that I move my blog, forum and those 20+domains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyPenguin View Post
    Looking at EIG's past track record, I wouldn't hold your breath of the wishes you desire coming true any time soon?
    I've had experiences with EIG not once but twice -- each time buying out a host I was using, and essentially ___ing it all up in the process. It wasn't until some many months after the 2nd incident that I came to learn the foul presence that is Endurance. And honestly, as far as I'm concerned, EIG didn't just buy out Readyhosting and Hypermart -- they raped them. That's their track record -- buy and screw, buy and screw. When they start to move your data to their own servers, it's common to have LOTS of downtime, lost data, and lost emails.

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    Hypermart???? Lots of cool anime forums and galleries were on hypermart and lots of them are now gone and have been for a while.... wonder if that was the reason..... one did mention a fight with them.
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    Let's just say that my description of what happened to Hypermart is probably too colorful for the rules of this forum. (Hint: a broomstick is involved.) That was quite a few years ago. It went from good free service (old HM) to crap pay service (new EIG). Thus incurred a mass exodus. That was at least 7-8 years ago.

    ... and I happened to be one of the people with an animation site, including original artwork.

    You nailed it.

    And it sounds like EIG is now going to nail Bluehost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny C View Post
    yeah...thats fine
    What do you mean by, "yeah...thats fine"?


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    I was wondering the same.
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    I wonder if all of Matt's mad scientist stuff he made for server monitoring and all that goes with the deal?


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    I have been wondering what all was included in the deal. It is not likely either party will disclose any details to the public any time soon. And if all the "mad science" throttling and server monitoring software came with the deal, will EIG incorporate it into their other companies?


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    I think EIG is like the Borg. Assimilating all the other hosting companies.
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    yea but that company buying all those hosting companies, that is just non sense.. that means support is probably going to be out sourced too. where is the care for customers? People like that do not even think about the customer. I make sure every customer is happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webhostmaniac View Post
    yea but that company buying all those hosting companies, that is just non sense.. that means support is probably going to be out sourced too. where is the care for customers? People like that do not even think about the customer. I make sure every customer is happy.
    You brought up an interesting point concerning support. With so many separate companies, you would think EIG would have some plan of consolidating their support teams. I am curious if they will have Bluehost perform support for the all of the EIG companies? Or eventually will EIG go with cheap out sourced support?


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    Imagine if they then merged with 1&1 and Parallels (Many acquisitions under one roof) - I shudder to think!!
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    They had better not touch ||Parallels or some lions-and-tigers-and-bears-oh my are going to be very very full for quite some time!
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    Another thing, I've always been under the impression that Bluehost actually owns their own data center, no? That would be a pretty significant acquisition coupled with the already being discussed support group, which I would imagine BH has the biggest of any of the so far acquired by EIG hosts.

    As far as BH is concerned I'm not bothered by this as I've never cared for them or considered them to be much of a positive in the culture, but I really hate to see EIG getting stronger in any way, and it looks to me like this will provide a *monster* boost... it's like The Mummy has finally sucked enough souls to complete his flesh (just watched that with my son) or something.


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    Well if EIG purchased the Bluehost, can please fix all the bugs of the SimpleScript and on the logins pffffff

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    Would be interesting to know the sale amount. Any body have any idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpertWebHostNET View Post
    Would be interesting to know the sale amount. Any body have any idea?
    It would be interesting to find out what EIG put out for the transaction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ninkynonk View Post
    I think EIG is like the Borg. Assimilating all the other hosting companies.
    In all fairness, the Borg was significantly more impressive. The Borg had really awesome technology and was really tough in a fight. EIG is just buying companies to have more customers. They don't seem to be evolving like the Borg was. The Borg used its methods of assimilation to gather more knowledge. EIG does not seem interested in gathering knowledge or even utilizing all of the knowledge of those companies it already aquired. EIG seems only interested in gathering more customers in an effort to expand cash flow. In a fight between EIG and the Borg, the Borg would easily win.
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    I am contemplating how many total domains EIG is now hosting? From a rough guesstimate, Bluehost companies 2 million, Justhost companies a half million, and the rest of the EIG companies 1 million total domains hosted. So if I am correct EIG is now hosting 3.5 million domains.

    First off is my estimation close to being correct? If not does anyone have a more accurate estimate?

    Secondly where does EIG now fit in among the companies with the most domains hosted?


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    I assume it is:

    1. GoDaddy
    2. 1&1
    3. EGI

    The rest are gone.. ?
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