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Old 05-10-2000, 03:09 PM
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i've always been sceptical about sites claiming unlimited, especially bandwith, but I saw something that made me rethink. Communitech.net claim to offer unlimited bandwith. I searched the site around, looking for any 'limits' on the unlimited, and to tell you the truth i was surprised. On the site it says, and i quote "Some of our clients who take advantage of our unlimited bandwidth feature push out in excess of 100 Gigabytes of data month after month"...

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Old 05-10-2000, 04:43 PM
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"Some of our clients who take advantage of our unlimited bandwidth feature push out in excess of 100 Gigabytes of data month after month"...
...and I've got some land out in the ocean for sale! all beach front property!

Don't believe it!

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Old 05-10-2000, 05:06 PM
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Yes, they grow bandwidth in their big bandwidth farms so they do not pay for it. And instead of selling it, they give it all away to their customers for free.


I just told Yahoo, they're moving there right away.

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Old 05-10-2000, 07:49 PM
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I took a look at their site and see how it could be tempting. Without knowing hardly anything about Communitech, and looking at them critically, here's what I see:

The terms of service (TOS) are nowhere to be found on their site. They could promise as much bandwidth as you want, then nail you when you use excessive resources (like cpu cycles and usage). That's what some of these companies do. Unless you know to look at the total picture and see the TOS, youre taking a big chance.

The more than 100 gb they refer to is almost surely on one of their dedicated servers, where exceeeive use of resources is not a factor.

While they seem to handle the unlimited bandwidth issue reasonably, there also seems to be a lot of effort directed into redirection (or misdirection). They stress the fact that they can get more bandwidth by picking up a phone. Availability of bandwidth is not the issue, paying for it is. I do see where it has some relevance, or at least they would like you to think so. The point is, they have to pay for theirs and you'll likely have to pay for yours.

It may be that they are gambling (based on the majority of their accounts) that most won't use much bandwidth, so they can promise unlimited, knowing most won't even approach reasonable limits. The problems occur when you have have a popular site and exceed those undisclosed limits. What then?

You shouldn't take these remarks out of context and judge them by that alone, especially if their overall reputation is a good one. They do seem to offer a lot for the money, including some licensed programs. Then again, so do some terrible hosts, like my last one.

Like con men (from confidence, as in what they gain), the best ones are the most impressive, convincing and slickest.

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Old 05-11-2000, 12:08 AM
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i know quite a few ppl hosted by communitech, and they're all happy with the services

Duster, the terms of service is on the site. Just click on the order button and there's a huge button taking you to the contract...you're right...there IS a limit...but you won't believe what it is...its 17 GB...A DAY!!!, and yes, this is for virtual hosting...thats 510 gigs of transfer a month!!! thats about as close to unlimited as you'll ever get!

[This message has been edited by StarfoxZL (edited 05-11-2000).]

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Old 05-11-2000, 12:23 AM
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They do seem to offer a lot for the money, including some licensed programs. Then again, so do some terrible hosts, like my last one.

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just wondering, who was you last host ?


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Old 05-11-2000, 01:17 AM
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TrueHosting offers the same unlimited bandwidth deal...yet their service suck.

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Old 05-11-2000, 01:23 AM
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TrueHosting offers the same unlimited bandwidth deal...yet their service suck.

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Old 05-11-2000, 11:37 AM
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TrueHosting offers the same unlimited bandwidth deal...yet their service suck.
You know, we really don't need to have a reference to TH in every thread. It's really getting rediculous. Anyone reading this forum can also see how TH has screwed people over by reading the NUMEROUS posts just under the TH heading, we don't need it to show up in all the other threads also!

Admins: Maybe there should be a hosting forum solely dedicated to TH, since so many people have been burned by them and feel the need to comment on them in other non-related threads...?

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Old 05-11-2000, 01:05 PM
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Do you know they are offering you a Dedicated server for the price of a normal account?

Contrary to what many people thinks, the most expensive feature on a web server isnt the box or the hd itself... but the bandwidth.

lets say you use 17gig / day, it means you max out their connection, so they must get more servers for their other clients... you will cost them approximately 500$/month only for the bandwidth.

I suggest that you read the ToS a bit more... if they can cancel youtr accoutn anytime, without any warning... I suppose they would do that once you reach the 1-2 gig/day

But oh well, perhapse these guys just won a million and wants to star a charity web hosting service


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Old 05-11-2000, 02:00 PM
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i read their ToS properly, and here's what they say, "CommuniTech.Net may also at its discretion at any time, suspend access to any client's website without notice, due to over-consumption of bandwidth (exceeding 17,000MB/day transfer)"

it sounds strange i know, but thats out of their ToS, but i doubt all of their hosted sites pull that much bandwith...

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Old 05-11-2000, 04:06 PM
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If it's truly unlimited, then why do they have the following listed in their TOS?

"Sites whose primary purpose is for file distribution or mirroring of a site are strictly prohibited."



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Old 05-11-2000, 04:16 PM
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come on..give them some credit...you have to admit 17 gigs a DAY is pretty good, and to most people it'll be almost unlimited...now try to find a host like that...

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Old 05-11-2000, 05:28 PM
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Then join them! We are telling you bandwidth cost money, atleast a couple bucks per Gig. So 17 Gigs a day would cost atleast $500 month like they say. Just don't join there and come back here to complain after they shut you don't just when your site gets popular.


Should we give them credit for lying and deceiving?


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come on..give them some credit...you have to admit 17 gigs a DAY is pretty good, and to most people it'll be almost unlimited...now try to find a host like that...

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Old 05-11-2000, 05:40 PM
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they're just a tad over my budget, and anyway, i'm already hosted at www.pcisd.com and i'm very happy.
And i don't believe they're lying. Most sites that claim unlimited on their page, you find in their ToS that if you prove to be using too much bandwith, then they'll charge you extra or something...none bother to say HOW much bandwith. In Communitech's contract it clearly says that exceding 17 gigs a day is considered as abusing their unlimited policy...

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