
12-02-2010, 10:39 PM
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Ok I did a search for AWBS and the most recent post was around 2 years old.
Which is better for webhosting nowadays? AWBS or WHMCS or .......??
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12-02-2010, 10:45 PM
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WHMCS By Far
Personally have never even heard of AWBS
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12-02-2010, 10:58 PM
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WHMCS for sure is the best , no match at all.
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12-03-2010, 12:58 AM
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Hi,
I have never heared of AWBS hosting can you tell what type of hosting is this
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12-03-2010, 01:24 AM
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WHMCS
Majority of the hosts suggest WHMCS.
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12-03-2010, 01:28 AM
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You people are crazy or stupid and I say this very honestly.
Like 5 years I evaluated which one was better on each feature, AWBS vs WHMCS
And AWBS won hands on against all, even the crap modernbill back then...
This day we are entering 2011 and AWBS is still ALLOT and I mean allot better then WHMCS.
It supports more modules.
It is fully brandable (you have to pay extra in WHMCS extra)
It has a full api
It highly extensible, any programmers can code on it
It has way more features then WHMCS
Its cheaper
If you cannot find a module to fit you can build a custom one very easy
You can add and edit almost everything
You can change looks very easy, it integrates to deep into a company design that you probably used or saw AWBS on allot of companies and did not even noticed it, vs WHCS where they look all the same.
Updates are impressive more then 12 a year for sure, thats almost an update per month and they are not bug fixes but they contain at least 1 new feature per update
The support is great, cannot comment on WHMCS support but AWBS is made in the US so you can be sure you have quality with it.
Its very flexible, the programmers and owners are always open to users, and if you dont believe it they actually put suggestions of users into their software
Bug fixes are very fast, if a bug is reported which is important you get a patch like in 24 hours.
There are so many things I can mention that it would not fit this post, but most people that say here WHMCS is the best never tried AWBS at all. I can bet on that because I wondering on what they are based when they say its better. They just say it because its the popular thing to say, like saying hostgator is the best shared hosting. Dont get me wrong, WHMCS is impressive, but AWBS is not a lower version or less featured that tries to keep up with them, its the other way around. WHMCS took like 2 to 3 years to developt things AWBS had way back.
And AWBS is a very old software, its not like its new, its even older I would say and was first then WHMCS. If you never heard of it its because ot 2 things. First of all, they are selling well, they dont need to make as much marketing as WHMCS, they dont any at all. Second, WHMCS looks the same on almost all companies and you have to leave a big powered by on your website, so thats why everybody heard of them, most dont pay to remove the branding. AWBS is fully branded.
I would rate WHMSC 8 of 10 and AWBS 9 of 10. Being 10 perfect. The great stuff about AWBS is that you can use it so sell lots of services and not just hosting. Like software licenses, and other stuff.
So please people that say I never heard of it, this is not a topic about that. Search on Google or go to www.awbs.com or see their wiki on www.awbswiki.com to read what it can and cant do.
You can give it a shot with a free trial and then test if on a run side by side with WHMCS.
And by no way im affiliated or work for them in any way.
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12-03-2010, 02:13 AM
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The reason AWBS isn't on the same level as WHMCS is because of the company behind it.
While I disagree with some of what WHMCS has done comparing the organization of WHMCS vs Total Online Solutions (who take care of awbs) just isn't comparable.
I could go down the list of things that separate whmcs from awbs but I don't have to, people actually use whmcs.
Perhaps one day all the stupid people using whmcs will get smart and use awbs
And I don't use either of them, but I have used both of them.
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12-03-2010, 03:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woods01
The reason AWBS isn't on the same level as WHMCS is because of the company behind it.
While I disagree with some of what WHMCS has done comparing the organization of WHMCS vs Total Online Solutions (who take care of awbs) just isn't comparable.
I could go down the list of things that separate whmcs from awbs but I don't have to, people actually use whmcs.
Perhaps one day all the stupid people using whmcs will get smart and use awbs
And I don't use either of them, but I have used both of them.
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May be AWBS be the best one when compared to WHMCS, but that doesn't mean that the people using WHMCS are stupids, WHMCS is not that bad When compared to AWBS, people are using it and they are satisfied with it.
If AWBS is much advanced than that of WHMCS then there's no wrong giving it a try.
After all, using softwares which are best is the trends in computer field.
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12-03-2010, 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woods01
The reason AWBS isn't on the same level as WHMCS is because of the company behind it.
While I disagree with some of what WHMCS has done comparing the organization of WHMCS vs Total Online Solutions (who take care of awbs) just isn't comparable.
I could go down the list of things that separate whmcs from awbs but I don't have to, people actually use whmcs.
Perhaps one day all the stupid people using whmcs will get smart and use awbs
And I don't use either of them, but I have used both of them.
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I did not said people using WHMCS are stupid, its stupid when people ask which is better, because how do you measure such a metric? Probably by features, speed, stability, etc, and the one that has more points wins. I dont see how any other way you would measure a platform, and on most points AWBS is allot better, so thats why I think its stupid when people say which is one better. Its like comparing apples vs oranges.
And you dont do a list because probably AWBS wins. That was my case. And if you mean the company behind AWBS, well you have a point there, but then again, you said it yourself, WHMCS is more used, which means they earn more so they can attack areas where AWBS cant, like marketing, more programmers, probably more support staff, etc. I dont know, but then its means AWBS is even more impressive because it can compete against a bigger company with less people. So imagine if they had the same resources.
I have used almost all billing systems to date, even those costing thousands of $$$, I even tested the whole Parallels automation when it was out and was one of the first one to do it. One thing that I was impressed about AWBS is its cheap price and how flexible it is. This is very important for small resellers and for big companies, because you dont want to pay tons of money if you cant, but you want to be sure the software can escalate with you and grow. The worst that can happen to someone implementing something like this is to find out its working very bad with to much customers on it, or that its not flexible enough to accommodated your new products and services.
The bigger a company gets, of any type of services, the more they need software that is more customized to their needs and services, and awbs rocks on this, its very modular, and very flexible. The point that its a small company is probably an advantage too, because on the past I saw suggestions on their forums from people and they where rolled out into the next version which is something very impressive. Its the same reason why there are so many hosting companies and why small ones can eat a piece of the cake, because they can provide things that bigger cant or arent interested anymore, like bundled services, designers sell hosting with webdesign, or better support, or local support, what ever. So being small is not a bad thing. I do agree with this on you. For me a who is behing something is very important. I actually are afraid of using softwares of one or two man programmers because you never have guarantee that they will be for you when you grow to big or that they will stay profitable in the long run. This where also my bigger thoughts years back, but then again the first thing I asked to several clients using awbs was how much updates where released and how offend. I went directly with them and all of them said they had a release almost once every 2 months which was more then fine for me.
And I also investigated the company a bit and it was running for years. This has changes now. They are running their business for more years then I can count, it was like 5 years when I found them and tried them. They are only getting better and better each day so that fear is gone as well.
Again please, to all of those that read this, dont believe anything of what I say. Just give it a try yourself, test it, use a trial, give it a month or two and see if you liked it. I think competition is always good and im sure dont want to see back those days where Moderbill was the only choice, or what SW Soft did when they started to buy all control panels. I think its very good for the market to have several choices on everything and the reason why AWBS is probably not bigger is the same one with the reply most people posted here, that they never heard of them, so this persons probably think WHMCS is the only choice.
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12-03-2010, 09:52 AM
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I did not said people using WHMCS are stupid
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You kind of did, actually.
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You people are crazy or stupid and I say this very honestly.
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I've used both. AWBS is complicated and difficult to get used to. The main benefit to WHMCS is how simple they've made it to set up and manage (though it has it's flaws too). I feel it's in this that they've gained a larger market share (assuming they have, that is), along with frequent updates.
It's a personal preference, and while some like or love AWBS, I did not.
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12-03-2010, 10:05 AM
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You mean from the admin side?
It was more complicated, granted, but its because it has more features. They have made the admin side allot easier now. Still the main selling point in my case was exactly this, the admin side. There is nothing worst then finding out with time that you cannot do some stuff on invoices, or that you need to apply certain stuff to some accounts. The admin is not simple to use, but I dont find it complicated either, each feature is very well explained, it may see complicated because it has tons and tons of things you can do. I like that actually, because its that what makes it powerful.
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12-03-2010, 10:32 AM
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I'm a big fan of WHMCS, although I must admit I have not used AWBS. WHMCS works well for us even though my business is not a hosting business. What I like best about it is that it's highly customizable, and easily integrated with other PHP scripts. Just my 2 cents 
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12-03-2010, 01:47 PM
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We were looking for a billing system which supported CCAVENUE(a popular payment gateway in india) and found AWBS. This was way back in 2006. We actually purchased it without knowing its powerfull features and got the theme customized by a popular Web Hosting Designer. What we liked the most about AWBS is that the client need not login 5 different areas like Billing, Helpdesk, Domains etc like in those days and have something easier to manage like godaddy does.
It Took us 2 months to fully configure AWBS and till date i keep discovering new features in AWBS which went unnoticed. The New Features you've been seeing in WHMCS past 2 years was actually available in AWBS 4 years ago. Best thing is its unbranded and the Developers actually listen to their customers. We wanted this feature where an sms is sent to client whenever any invoices are generated Like domain registration, Hosting renewal etc and they got this done in no time.
I've seen dozens of threads on WHT stating WHMCS superiority but i believe those have either never tried AWBS or they didn't like the previously poor Coded templates. This was acheivable by customizing/integrating your own design in their application. The admin area was indeed complicated earlier but their latest versions has things neatly placed. We have License of WHMCS too on one of our website and we find it more complicated honestly. Many a times we wanted to migrate to WHMCS due to its popularity but backed off as WHMCS sites are easily recognisable. I have to admit that the less popularity of AWBS is a good thing for us as our clients believe we have spent thousands of $$ developing our own application
IMHO AWBS is for the serious Hosting companies who are willing to spend a good amount of time and money customizing their website uniquely unlike WHMCS which is easier to get started with.
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12-03-2010, 02:20 PM
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If you evaluated WHMCS 5 years ago when we were just starting out, I'm sure you'd be impressed with the developments we have made since then. So just to clarify a few points about WHMCS if I may:
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It supports more modules.
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AWBS vs WHMCS
Domain Registrars: 14 vs 21
Payment Gateways: 38 vs 57
Hosting Control Panels: 25 vs 23
Fraud Protection: 4 vs 3
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It has a full api
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WHMCS' API documentation can be found at http://wiki.whmcs.com/API
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It highly extensible, any programmers can code on it
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If you cannot find a module to fit you can build a custom one very easy
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In addition to the API above WHMCS also have module development kits which allow for this, as well as Action Hooks and an extensive Addons system: http://wiki.whmcs.com/Developer_Resources
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You can change looks very easy, it integrates to deep into a company design
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The entire public/client WHMCS interface is entirely templated using the Smarty system which is extremely easy to customise. Certain parts of the admin area can also be customised.
It's down to the individual how 'deep' their customisation of the template goes. It's very easy to match the header/footer and colours, or you can go all the way and change every aspect of the system's appearance. For example check out the link in my signature, I'm sure you wouldn't recognise which billing system we use
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The support is great, cannot comment on WHMCS support but AWBS is made in the US so you can be sure you have quality with it.
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WHMCS' support is based in the UK and USA.
Whilst I'm very pleased to see people recommending WHMCS, as the OP started a thread asking for a specific comparison between AWBS and WHMCS, perhaps those who haven't used both systems should refrain from commenting?
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using whmcs above 1year its best best best
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