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08-28-2004, 08:51 PM #51Retired Moderator
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You know, I've read a number of threads on here in the past about TP unplugging servers without warning before, and for reasons other than billing issues...
just something to consider. Servers get pulled all the time for a lot of reasons.<?php echo "Signature here"; ?>0
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08-28-2004, 08:55 PM #52Junior Guru
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P-nut, it's clear it's for nonpayment, based on posts from AN themselves. You might love AN and all, but trying to cover for their issues is making you look kind of silly.
nybble, here's yet another quote from Rachel on the AN forums about the cPanel licences.
Probably some are due to a bill not yet paid, Donna is looking for those.
Others seem related to an issue between the cpanel servers and CA datacenter. Probably a router down somewhere. That's why Art is getting the message he is and some of the invalid license errors are related to that.0
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08-28-2004, 08:55 PM #53Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by P-nut
You know, I've read a number of threads on here in the past about TP unplugging servers without warning before, and for reasons other than billing issues...
just something to consider. Servers get pulled all the time for a lot of reasons.
Texas boys have their limits, they aren't a bigger company that can wait and wait to get paid, so they've pulled some of the servers for now till the bill is paid, which, if clients had paid their bills when they were supposed to and when they said they would, Texas would be paid for already and this wouldn't have been an issue.0
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08-28-2004, 08:55 PM #54Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by P-nut
You know, I've read a number of threads on here in the past about TP unplugging servers without warning before, and for reasons other than billing issues...
just something to consider. Servers get pulled all the time for a lot of reasons.0
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08-28-2004, 08:58 PM #55Web Hosting Master
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Ok, well I got clients down my neck. Stupid Angelnetworkz is going to be the death of me!
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08-28-2004, 09:00 PM #56Retired Moderator
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Originally posted by twidnet
P-nut, it's clear it's for nonpayment, based on posts from AN themselves. You might love AN and all, but trying to cover for their issues is making you look kind of silly<?php echo "Signature here"; ?>0
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08-28-2004, 09:05 PM #57Junior Guru
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So AN is supposed to have 60-90 employees but can't afford $4900 to their provider?
That is beyond laughable.0
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08-28-2004, 09:06 PM #58Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by P-nut
Uh not trying to cover for their issues, just pointing out that there's a lot of reasons a server can be pulled is all. I'm not privy to their financial information nor do I know the entire story so I can only give my $.02
The situation is complicated enough for the one's that are offline for a while now... the kind of comments you are making dont make things better...
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08-28-2004, 09:07 PM #59Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by nybble
Ok, well I got clients down my neck. Stupid Angelnetworkz is going to be the death of me!
Good luck.It's time to kick back, pop in a From Autumn to Ashes CD, and relax.....0
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08-28-2004, 09:09 PM #60Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by BitError
So AN is supposed to have 60-90 employees but can't afford $4900 to their provider?
That is beyond laughable.0
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08-28-2004, 09:09 PM #61Junior Guru
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Sure seemed that way to me, considering what AN themselves posted and considering that you always seem to be telling people to cool out when something happens, and AN either offers up the latest excuse or keeps totally quiet, but that's just my .02.
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08-28-2004, 09:10 PM #62Web Hosting Master
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Does anyone have a number I can contact someone? I can't get anyone on the phone, and nobody at the helpdesk is helpful, everyone on AIM is offline and nobody will talk to me.
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08-28-2004, 09:11 PM #63M*T
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Ouch,... Not sure if I "see" the cookie crumbling or just "growing pains".
Either way, if the provider is not paid, servers get shut off.Don't you walk thru my words
You got to show some respect
Don't you walk thru my words
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08-28-2004, 09:14 PM #64Retired Moderator
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Originally posted by blacksmith
Now I dont understand... if you dont even read all that as been told about this matter why do you post about this?!?!
The situation is complicated enough for the one's that are offline for a while now... the kind of comments you are making dont make things better...
I'm sorry if what I posted is not what you want to hear, but it's a fact that there could be reasons other than billing issues that a server is pulled offline. Since I'm not an AN employee and do not have access to each server's information, I can't say that I'm 100% right or 100% wrong.
I hope those of you experiencing these problems get this resolved tonight and get a thorough explanation of exactly why your server was offline.<?php echo "Signature here"; ?>0
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08-28-2004, 09:20 PM #65Aspiring Evangelist
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p-nut, it's not just a server that was pulled offline. It was a whole mess of them, one of mine included that is paid in full.
But now is down and according to AN it's because some clients should have paid their bills on time.
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08-28-2004, 09:22 PM #66Been around for too long...
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Originally posted by P-nut
You know, I've read a number of threads on here in the past about TP unplugging servers without warning before, and for reasons other than billing issues...
just something to consider. Servers get pulled all the time for a lot of reasons.
Originally posted by P-nut
Uh not trying to cover for their issues, just pointing out that there's a lot of reasons a server can be pulled is all. I'm not privy to their financial information nor do I know the entire story so I can only give my $.02
Oh, by the way - this isn't the first time that AN's servers have been shut off due to non-payment. Think back about a year or so when their servers at BurstNet were shut off for non-payment... I lent Donna money then to get the servers back online. Obviously, things have changed since then, but there's still bad planning.
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08-28-2004, 09:24 PM #67Web Hosting Master
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Hi P-nut....
I don't think anyone here disagrees with you that there could be other causes for the servers being down, but in this case it's pretty safe to assume the cause is non-payment on the part of ANz, due at least partially to non-payment from some customers.
It's pretty hard to argue otherwise when the PTB (Donna and Rachel) have already publicly acknowledged as much.It's time to kick back, pop in a From Autumn to Ashes CD, and relax.....0
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08-28-2004, 09:26 PM #68Junior Guru
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Originally posted by P-nut
I'm sorry if what I posted is not what you want to hear, but it's a fact that there could be reasons other than billing issues that a server is pulled offline. Since I'm not an AN employee and do not have access to each server's information, I can't say that I'm 100% right or 100% wrong.0
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08-28-2004, 09:34 PM #69Retired Moderator
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Whatever. Sorry I posted in the first place. I'll leave this discussion now since I have nothing further to contribute.
Again, I hope you all get your servers back online soon.<?php echo "Signature here"; ?>0
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08-28-2004, 09:36 PM #70Web Hosting Master
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**** this, this is the last straw. I am leaving angelnet in a few days/hours once I get stuff sorted out.
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08-28-2004, 09:42 PM #71Junior Guru Wannabe
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we are leaving as soon as we get a current backup off of the server...
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08-28-2004, 09:45 PM #72Web Hosting Master
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HAH! What do ya know, Servermatrix even gives reciepts!!! Angelnetworkz beat that!
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08-28-2004, 09:53 PM #73Junior Guru Wannabe
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HAH! What do ya know, Servermatrix even gives reciepts!!! Angelnetworkz beat that!0
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08-28-2004, 10:06 PM #74Newbie
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hmm.. either donna mercer pronounces her name differently than we do. The whole 2001 female employees who 'try their best' thing is a front. Or no wonder her payments are late, they've been getting sent to someone else this whole time =(
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08-28-2004, 10:12 PM #75Web Hosting Master
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I don't care.. I am out of there soon enough anyway (I think).
I have had the worst 72 hours with them.... this is the type of bad dream admins have at night.0