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03-10-2010, 10:54 AM #1Newbie
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what kind of dedicated for my specs
Hello,
I've used shared hosting for the last 10 years or so. Now, my site has grown bigger and I need better performance. Let me explain to you my site needs so you can tell me if shared hosting will do or if I need to upgrade to VPS or dedicated server (not sure I have money for the latter).
My site is based on a forum and a gallery, it has a large mysql db (around 300MB), about 10GB of files and averages 2500 visitors a day producing 100 GB of traffic per month.
I have struggled with poor performance on shared hosting, and even got kicked out once because even though it was fully unmetered "my sql db was causing too much load on their server".
So my question is, for a site of this kind what are my needs? A good shared hosting? Will a VPS do and with what RAM/CPU specs?
Thank you,
Daniel
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03-10-2010, 10:58 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Hi Daniel,
Sounds like a low spec dedi, or a higher spec VPS should be fine for you. Do you know the numbers for co-current visitors?
This is the thing that causes the most strain on the server, due to the database use.Toby
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03-10-2010, 11:01 AM #3Disabled
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Just a core2duo 4gb 2x80gb disk should be fine for you, or a good vps
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03-10-2010, 11:07 AM #4Newbie
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03-10-2010, 11:09 AM #5Newbie
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03-10-2010, 11:11 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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You should be fine on a VPS with around 1 - 2GB RAM, depending on how fast your user-base is expanding.
We are hosting a vbulletin forum that has seen over 1000 users active at one time, on a server of similar spec to that suggested by Krazy, although they have now outgrown this platform and are in the process of upgrading to a far more powerful server.Toby
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03-10-2010, 11:16 AM #7Disabled
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I mean a vps which actually server has powerful cpu and allowing the customer to use full burst of cpu, some or most will throttle each vps to certain amount of cpu clock only. SAS drives will help a lot but there are less people who use this sort. Obviously non oversold with 1gb ram
Am not sure if intel atom based server can do the purpose as it basically pretty low end cpu.
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03-10-2010, 11:18 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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That would depend on your needs.
Do you know how to look after your own server? If not you need a managed solution. The extra money is well worth it to avoid the hassle of finding out that your host can't help when something goes wrong.
Make sure you go with a provider that is accountable, go and find out more about companies that fit your needs, then research their reputations and find some reviews of their services. Being that I've just launched a new company maybe that is not the right advice for me to be giving out, but it is the best advice
How critical is your uptime? is 100% a must? you're going to need to look at some of the more expensive providers, rather than the budget guys then.
There are a lot of factors to look at, your best bet is to find a provider that will be upfront with you and look at your current set up and explain to you what is best for your resource needs, and knowledge level.Toby
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03-10-2010, 11:24 AM #9Newbie
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hostgator has some fully managed vps with 1.13 GHx CPU and 768 MB RAM for $50/month. Do you think it's up to the task?
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03-10-2010, 11:27 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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What does hostgator's 'Fully Managed' service consist of?
Be very careful as this tends to be different at every supplier - ask 10 companies, expect 10 different explanationsToby
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03-10-2010, 11:37 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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Here is HG's answer to that question
This means that we can provide technical support for your account upon your request. And we monitor the VPS boxes to make sure that they stay online and operate smoothly. Though we cannot take action on your particular account untill requested by the owner
A Pro-active provider will be aware of the issue and their support team will log into your server, restart the services as required, and contact you to notify you of the issue. The cost difference between these two service levels is considerable though.Last edited by Toby H; 03-10-2010 at 11:38 AM. Reason: Typing error.
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03-10-2010, 11:58 AM #12Newbie
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Actually, I was on the hostgaror support chat asking them questions about it and I realized the same thing you are saying. In sort, I monitor they fix. I'm pretty ok with this for the price. I understand I would go double the price and more for a fully monitored service?
Regarding the technical stuff... Is the amount of CPU/RAM I stated up to the task? I am asking because so far shared hosting servers had been a black box to me, never really knew how many resources I was taking.
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03-10-2010, 12:04 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Yes you probably would be looking at around double the price, possibly more than that.
Without knowing all the numbers, it is hard to be sure that you are going to the right amount of CPU/MEM. I would say you probably want at least 1GB, but it is hard to say regarding CPU, it might be an idea to ask your current host for the information they have, they should be happy to give you this.Toby
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03-10-2010, 12:12 PM #14Newbie
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So, if the specs are not up to the task (such as RAM) it means slow response or failed requests?
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03-10-2010, 12:17 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Yes, your site would run slowly, and potentially, mostly with RAM, if it runs out of RAM your server will have a 'Kernel Panic' and crash. This causes a risk of data corruption, and is therefore a very bad thing - other than the obvious problem of the downtime.
This is not such an issue with shared hosting as the host normally monitors the server and takes action before things get out of hand. With your own VPS, unless you have that level of monitoring in place, (there are many services that provide this) you will not be able to prevent this problem except my making sure you have enough resources available at all times.Toby
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03-10-2010, 12:35 PM #16Newbie
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If I get a partially managed VPS and combine it with a third-party server-monitoring service, could this be a good option? I've seen websited that monitor your site every 5 minutes or so.
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03-10-2010, 12:37 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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This would work, yes Personally I would recommend www.wormly.com due to their health monitoring, multiple locations and SMS alerts.
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03-10-2010, 12:41 PM #18Newbie
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Any cheaper options? I am only running one site at one server and their minimum plan covers 4 servers @ $19/month
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03-10-2010, 01:38 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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http://www.montastic.com/ I have used them in the past.
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03-10-2010, 02:09 PM #20Newbie
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Any comments on the essential VPS package by servint for my task?
http://www.servint.net/vps-featuresandupgrades.php
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03-10-2010, 05:14 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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03-10-2010, 05:46 PM #22Newbie
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it's a phpbb latest version forum. all apache, php and mysql run on the same machine.
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