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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristi4n View Post
    I wonder if onapp was used with nexenta until now and if it worked ok ?
    Most I've seen are using Open-E or Openfiler, but I would like ZFS for various reasons.
    yup - we've got two clients working with nexenta with great success. One of them on a fairly large install.


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    that's great news, thanks!
    I am still looking at nexenta and most likely will go with it after I make sure it's stable enough for production.
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    You can't pool local storage with OnApp? It requires external SANs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanD View Post
    I can't imagine how bad your performance would be if you were on R5
    I will second ryans opinion on that. I have tried it - it blows.

    RAID 10 is the only way to go. Ask your potential san provider as well what they are running - if they wont tell you what raid level assume its not 10 and run far away. RAID 10 costs more but its worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudWeb View Post
    You can't pool local storage with OnApp? It requires external SANs?
    Yup external storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eming View Post
    yup - we've got two clients working with nexenta with great success. One of them on a fairly large install.


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    I have heard of some issue second hand on nexenta - do you know what the management capability is of this project - is there a single pane of glass management for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudWeb View Post
    You can't pool local storage with OnApp? It requires external SANs?
    OnApp can handle both local and central storage. The discusion on whats best (and that seems to be one of your favorite subjects) is almost religious - the storage features are pretty cool at OnApp, so you can add several storage units to the same VM, ie. attach both local storage, Raid10, SSD/FusionIO etc etc to the same VM. OnApp also allows you to charge individually for each tier of storage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor View Post
    I have heard of some issue second hand on nexenta - do you know what the management capability is of this project - is there a single pane of glass management for it?
    I'll put you in touch with one of the clients running it in Vegas next week, then you guys can discuss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eming View Post
    I'll put you in touch with one of the clients running it in Vegas next week, then you guys can discuss.


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    Who's running what in vegas next week? I'll be there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by eming View Post
    OnApp can handle both local and central storage. The discusion on whats best (and that seems to be one of your favorite subjects) is almost religious - the storage features are pretty cool at OnApp, so you can add several storage units to the same VM, ie. attach both local storage, Raid10, SSD/FusionIO etc etc to the same VM. OnApp also allows you to charge individually for each tier of storage.


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    Does it pool local storage into a virtual IP SAN? Ie: is that data redundant and ha across multiple servers? And accessible from other servers in the cloud? Or is it just simply using a single, local storage array (whether it be raid, single sata drives, or whatever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudWeb View Post
    Who's running what in vegas next week? I'll be there..
    an OnApp client setting up nexenta who will be in Vegas for the T1summit.
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    Wow.. how could I miss this. Who else is attending from WHT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudWeb View Post
    You can't pool local storage with OnApp? It requires external SANs?
    Just sign up for the web demo and they will show you all of this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudWeb View Post
    Wow.. how could I miss this. Who else is attending from WHT?
    I am.

    anyone want to go see the cult thursday night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eming View Post
    I'll put you in touch with one of the clients running it in Vegas next week, then you guys can discuss.


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    ok cool - looking forward to some good cabernet and a big fat filet at smith and wolensky
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    How about something like this for a SAN?
    http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/10/07...ps-and-tricks/

    Would this work with ONAPP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sailor View Post
    ok cool - looking forward to some good cabernet and a big fat filet at smith and wolensky
    Morton's steak and seafood special is still going on.. and with the godiva molten hot chocolate cake it's a shoe in. I'll go there

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    Quote Originally Posted by oplink View Post
    How about something like this for a SAN?
    http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/10/07...ps-and-tricks/

    Would this work with ONAPP?
    If you were using it for "low performing" storage. i.e. for backups that would be a good idea. But that in general is probably not going to be a high performance setup at all. Heck one of the controllers is a regular PCI card.

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    Doing Onapp with the following SAN
    HP Proliant DL320s 10*450GB SAS 15k with 2 hot spares (iSCSI). Snapshot to R5 array of 1.5TB drives on another machine. Using openfiler and will try to get MPIO working off 4 Gbit connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewitte View Post
    Doing Onapp with the following SAN
    HP Proliant DL320s 10*450GB SAS 15k with 2 hot spares (iSCSI). Snapshot to R5 array of 1.5TB drives on another machine. Using openfiler and will try to get MPIO working off 4 Gbit connections.
    Super $$$ on that setup, what is that running?
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    Not really was pretty resourceful probably about $1.5k (not including the other machine) with the server beeing free and extremly lucky finding drives. Openfiler.

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    server and drives 1.5k? are they used drives? If not where did you get drives that cheap..
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    Yes refurb reason I'm doing 2 hot spares and testing the $*#& out of them. Seagate will always replace them under warranty if any are bad.

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    We use a Raid 6 + hot spare for our SAN/NAS box(s). Performed better in our test lab then Raid 10 with 12 2TB 7200rpm disks, so we went with it. We're also using openfiler, which works pretty darn well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivithemage View Post
    We use a Raid 6 + hot spare for our SAN/NAS box(s). Performed better in our test lab then Raid 10 with 12 2TB 7200rpm disks, so we went with it. We're also using openfiler, which works pretty darn well.
    How many hours/days does it take to rebuild if a disk goes out? Whats the perfomance like when its rebuilding? Have you guys tested it?

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