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    Green host provider?

    In the present host market which is the best green host provider. And how a host provider is ranked as a better green host provider. As for as the end customer is concerned what is the benefit he gets if a host provider is green?

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    hostpapa seem to be the top green host provider and for the benifit i have no clue seem to be a good question

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    Benefits would be things such as:
    A) Marketing: Able to advertise x amount of energy they save because of the technology they choose to use.
    B) Requirements: Any government or industry requirements to reduce energy consumption / environmental impact.
    C) Commitments: Many companies choose to commit to reducing their footprint which green hosting would help them to accomplish.

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    Stamped Green is a good place to start.

    http://stampedgreen.com

    They have a list of eco friendly hosting providers.
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    HostGator its green.. They say..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessHost View Post
    HostGator its green.. They say..
    hostgator is 120% windpowered

    that means they are putting 20% more energy back into the grid than they are using

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    Quote Originally Posted by coderiser View Post
    hostgator is 120% windpowered

    that means they are putting 20% more energy back into the grid than they are using
    I didn't believe this when I first read it so I checked out Hostgator's website. They are doing the same thing some of us do to offset our carbon footprint; buying green credits.

    "HostGator has purchased certified Renewable Energy Credits representing 130% of the electricity used...While we can't build a wind farm here in downtown Houston, we're doing the next best thing"

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    green hosting is good. because it uses natural resources in data center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brenton17jul1948 View Post
    green hosting is good. because it uses natural resources in data center.
    What natural resources in the data center is it using?
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    The vast majority of 'green-ness' of hosting is down to the source of the power - renewable v fossil fuel. The vast majority of DCs use grid power. Therefore (arguably) the best way to tell whether a DC is 'green' (at least in emissions terms) is to look at the emissions rates of the power grids in the DC's location.

    The UK government publishes a set of country-based statistics for greenhouse gas emissions for companies to use when reporting their global emissions.

    It doesn't go any more detailed than country so in some ways is rather unfair to some eg areas of US/Canada where the local utility is all hydro power but it's the best I've got! It also obviously doesn't cover those DCs who do genuinely generate their own local power (as opposed to buying green credits which is included in the figures as they are still using grid power).

    It's a bit unwieldy, but you can get it at http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/...on-factors.htm.

    I've extracted the following table from the long spreadsheet, it shows 2006 emissions by country (for those countries covered, and with some regional averages included). It would be interesting to see a comparable column for cost per kWh also.

    kgCO2/kWh Country
    1 0.00106 Iceland
    2 0.00763 Norway
    3 0.02792 Switzerland
    4 0.04735 Sweden
    5 0.09083 France
    6 0.09593 Brazil
    7 0.16315 Lithuania
    8 0.19715 Latvia
    9 0.20024 Canada
    10 0.22800 Austria
    11 0.23275 Latin America
    12 0.24448 Slovak Republic
    13 0.25417 Finland
    14 0.27400 Belgium
    15 0.33072 Luxembourg
    16 0.33422 New Zealand
    17 0.35419 Russian Federation
    18 0.36293 Slovenia
    19 0.36560 Croatia
    20 0.37098 Hungary
    21 0.38752 Spain
    22 0.38819 Denmark
    23 0.42730 Italy
    24 0.42949 Netherlands
    25 0.43066 Ukraine
    26 0.43093 Germany
    27 0.43927 Japan
    28 0.45070 Portugal
    29 0.50051 Philippines
    30 0.51291 Romania
    31 0.51434 Turkey
    32 0.52836 Bulgaria
    33 0.55209 Pakistan
    34 0.55227 Korea, Republic of
    35 0.55568 Thailand
    36 0.56231 Egypt
    37 0.56695 Singapore
    38 0.58099 Ireland
    39 0.59130 Non-OECD Europe
    40 0.59239 Czech Republic
    41 0.59990 United States
    42 0.65684 Mexico
    43 0.68425 Chinese Taipei
    44 0.68454 Malaysia
    45 0.71614 Poland
    46 0.73000 Gibraltar
    47 0.73326 Africa
    48 0.74921 Estonia
    49 0.77202 Indonesia
    50 0.77932 Middle-East
    51 0.78912 Cyprus
    52 0.79728 Israel
    53 0.80382 Greece
    54 0.81894 Saudi Arabia
    55 0.84284 China, People's Republic of
    56 0.93596 South Africa
    57 0.94321 Malta
    58 0.95976 Hong Kong (China)
    59 0.99646 Australia
    60 1.28926 India
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    As for as the end customer is concerned what is the benefit he gets if a host provider is green?
    if your company do not pursue any green certification, I guess there's no direct benefit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by samnugro View Post
    if your company do not pursue any green certification, I guess there's no direct benefit..
    1. Carbon taxes - in UK, for example, all larger consumers of electricity (those on half-hour meters) will be subject to the Carbon Reduction Commitment tax from later this year - details are still not clear but it is likely to add 5-10% to the already high cost of power in the UK (DC's are typically around £50-£70 per 230V amp).

    2. Power Shortages - the countries at the top of that list below are generally those with lots of hydro or other power. The UK is short of power, and getting large amounts is one of the biggest challenges of setting up a new DC. Indirectly, this drives up the cost of hosting and colo as it limits new entrants.

    3. Corporate Social Responsibility - (insert your own value judgements here, but the following is, I think, a fair reflection of most large corporates view) organisations have a duty to be a positive benefit on the communities they operate in. This includes, but is not limited to, envinromental aspects including carbon. Using green hosting/DC services contributes to their CSR, which is increasingly visible and being pushed by the companies - eg direct links from their home pages and extensive and detailed published reports.
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    GreenGeeks is also a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessHost View Post
    HostGator its green.. They say..
    I went with HostGator so I could offer green hosting to others. Being green doesn't mean just having green power to run servers. It's a frame of mine to being committed to being a good steward of our planet. Recycling, reusing, energy friendly PC's and going the whole 9 yards. I'm just a small company now but as I grow my goal has always been to be friendly to the environment. I used to live in Seattle. :-)
    DJ Smith
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsima View Post
    In the present host market which is the best green host provider. And how a host provider is ranked as a better green host provider. As for as the end customer is concerned what is the benefit he gets if a host provider is green?
    As far as how green they get goes, many hosting companies call themselves 'green' when they are only purchasing carbon offset credits. Most green providers do this to some extent but many of the better ones use a large percentage of renewable energy to power their servers.
    The benefit the end user gets is that they are doing something to limit the amount of damage to our environment. I think that is a good benefit

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    A green host doesn't add to the demand for more electricity from traditional sources. Instead, these far-sighted companies employ new technology – solar power, wind power, deep core earth energy, hydro-electric (where available) and bio-fuels that can be regenerated with another harvest of corn.

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    In this competitive market there are various hosting companies which provide green hosting but according to me "SUPER GREEN" Hosting company is the best and cost effective because it provides you a full range of features at a very low prices comparative to other hosting companies.

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