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05-02-2003, 12:10 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Best way to learn linux
I want to learn Linux Systems Administration so that I will be comfortable when I get to the co-location stage and want to setup a test server at home to play about with.
Firstly what distr do you recommend.
And Secondly, any books/tutorials that would be beneficial?
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05-02-2003, 12:21 PM #2Disabled
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For beginner's I recommend RedHat or Mandrake.
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05-02-2003, 12:26 PM #3Web Hosting Guru
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I've been doing what you're about to do. I would strongly suggest Red Hat 7.3, as it's what seems to be on 90% of Linux servers.
As for books there are tons out there, I've been reading an older book called Essential Linux - Limited Edition. It's for like RH 5, but it has tons of useful information still.
Linux for Dummies is my next book to get.
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05-02-2003, 12:44 PM #4Junior Guru Wannabe
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I have decided to go for RH 8 partly because I already have it
does anyone know of any Step By Step Server Config guides?
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05-02-2003, 12:45 PM #5Newbie
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05-02-2003, 01:40 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Setup RH, since it's probably what you will be using as your server.
a good place to find info and some howto's http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/resources/
and dont' furget linux.org also, lots of great docs there.
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05-02-2003, 01:50 PM #7Disabled
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I'd recommend RedHat as your distribution and O'reilly's "Essential System Administration" -- it's like my bible.
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05-02-2003, 02:22 PM #8Web Hosting Guru
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if you want to get down and dirty with linux and learn the in's and out's... check out http://www.linuxfromscatch.org
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05-02-2003, 03:13 PM #9Registered User
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http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ would be the correct link ( you are missing letter R)
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05-02-2003, 04:03 PM #10Junior Guru
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I would really recommend that you start out with slackware or debian, i remember when i first started. I had to use slackware 3.6 or redhat 5.2, i chose slackware 3.6 and i literally had to configure everything which i learned to do manually and not with some little cute program.. I learned alot from fixing and configuring stuff and it really helped me out.
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05-02-2003, 05:18 PM #11Junior Guru
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Gues I'm still learning, and one tip I most definitely recommend:
do NOT install a gui. Forget about clicking "next" and "ok", and do everything manually. That'll teach yaHmm, what does this do... Oops!
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05-02-2003, 05:26 PM #12Newbie
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Originally posted by Pingu
Gues I'm still learning, and one tip I most definitely recommend:
do NOT install a gui. Forget about clicking "next" and "ok", and do everything manually. That'll teach ya
Whats a GUI ???
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05-03-2003, 01:45 AM #13Web Hosting Guru
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Best way to learn linux
but to avoid the Error.... try the book RedHat Linux Unleashed.www.prolinker.com - free automatic linking to your website
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05-03-2003, 04:53 AM #14Junior Guru
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Graphics User Interface (GUI)
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05-03-2003, 03:31 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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install debian , no gui (x ) and then get linux the complete reference (one of the earlier editions the new ones have pictures!) and read it cover to cover . Thats what I did , it took a long time there is probably a better way but I seriously remember the stuff . Also read before you go to sleep , more likely to go into long term memory . Once you have read something the night before try it out the night afterwards without using the book (if possible) otherwise use the book and do it .
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05-03-2003, 04:16 PM #16WHT Addict
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Buy an old PC or server, put it in your network, install Redhat (the most used distro in the hosting world) and play! Just try what you want, and with the help from readme's, how-to's, forums and maybe a book it will work
You're reading my signature, can't you do something useful?
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05-03-2003, 06:42 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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not to turn this into a distribution war , but debian is a much better distribution for hosting . It has free auto updates for security patches , an easy upgrade feature and convient ways to install more software . Redhat uses there own RPM format , where as debians package format can almost always resolve the dependicies automatically during installation . Redhat is reducing its free erate list down to 1 year (they wont bother keeping an erata for the public for longer than a year after the release) where as debian has no such plans to restrict its self . Redhat tends to be very bloated when compared to other distributions . Debian on the other hand is not nearly as bloated . While redhat may have a niecer GUI , this is a server were talking about almost everything you do is either going to be CLI or through a web admin pannel .
Now I have probably angered quite a few people with my post so I await your response(s) as to why redhat is better.
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05-04-2003, 12:11 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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First of all, RedHat 8.0 is horrible .. probably the most horrific Linux distro release so far.
Anyway, once you really get into administration, try this book:
Title: Linux Server Hacks
Author: Rob Flickenger
Publisher: O'Reilly
There's no better way to learn than to find and manage known exploits and basic implementations.
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05-04-2003, 05:06 PM #19WHT Addict
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Check out the site safari.oreilly.com for books published by oreilly (a publisher that has I think the best technical books). You can create a subcription account for free for I think 2 weeks. You can then check out about 10 books in that period. If you do not cancel you credit card will be charged for a month (I think $15 or something). Search for "linux adminstration" - 2 of the books in the search "Running Linux" and "Advanced Linux Adminstration" are good linux adminstration books. You can also do search and preview other books for example search for "apache" and "bind" for good apache and dns/bind books. One of the best resource finds on the net IMHO.
www.tldp.org remains probably the best free resource of linux documentaion. Check out the guide "Securing and optimizing Linux: The ultimate solution" and other guides too for a wealth of linux admin information. It may be a bit dated but it's all worth it.
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05-05-2003, 10:02 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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Heh..
I started off with mandrake..
I thought that mandrake linux was pretty cool..
Then, I learnt about FreeBSD.. LoL