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07-26-2004, 07:41 PM #1Junior Guru
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Which managed switch should I choose?
bandwidth usage graph.
Remote control of the switch.
Basic ip blocking.
vlan.
transfer between all servers using this switch.
4 port.
In my mind there are cisco 2624. 2650. dell 3xxx.
Which one is more reliable and most cost effective/features?
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07-26-2004, 08:01 PM #2Junior Guru
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Foundy EdgeIron 2402CF - http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/def...spx?EDC=470846
While more expensive, you will get the best switch (IMO).
I see that you only need 4 ports, but a quick check on prices of some Cisco switches shows that 24 port switches are actually cheaper (for the most part) than a 12 port switch. Just something to keep in mind.Robert Donaldson | Netivex
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07-26-2004, 08:04 PM #3Junior Guru
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Also, do Dell switches not have a problem with MRTG? I could be wrong, maybe somebody could help clarify this.
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07-26-2004, 09:04 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Those Dell switches have a problem with *. I will never use one in a production environment again.
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07-26-2004, 10:20 PM #5WHT Addict
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Dell switches are a huge pain.
The foundry is a nice piece of gear. We are switching over almost totally to foundry.
You could also go on ebay and get a 2924 depending on how mission critical your application is. Probably pay less than $250 is you hunt around.Sago Networks
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07-26-2004, 10:30 PM #6Junior Guru
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I will get 24 ports for expansion later on, 100Mbps port uplink to it.
What are the choices if it is mission critical?
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07-26-2004, 10:47 PM #7Aspiring Evangelist
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We have had great success with the HP Procurve 2524's. Great managed switch, and a lifetime warranty from HP. They do everything you are looking for, and are about the same price new on Ebay as used 2924's.
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07-26-2004, 11:09 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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The original poster asked for IP blocking. They want a layer 3 switch. Certainly a 2924 won't suffice. My recommendations are all probably out of the 4 port user's budget.
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07-26-2004, 11:27 PM #9Aspiring Evangelist
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The original poster asked for IP blocking.
Layer 3 stuff is $$.
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07-27-2004, 12:14 AM #10Junior Guru
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Take off the ip blocking, dont really want to go into layer 3.
if I can do it with layer2, that's a good plus.
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07-27-2004, 01:06 AM #11Aspiring Evangelist
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You can't do IP blocking on a Layer 2 switch, thats the reason why the switch isn't Layer 3. Take a look at the OSI model, as Layer 3 is known as the Network Layer, and you can't do any network address based switching/routing on Layer 2(Data link).
If IP blocking is out I still stand by my HP recommendation.
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07-27-2004, 03:05 AM #12Newbie
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07-27-2004, 03:34 AM #13Junior Guru
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e12pilot : thanks for your firm suggestion
newfiesheek : what ar eyou trying to say?
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07-27-2004, 10:00 AM #14Junior Guru
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Of the hosts that are using foundry, which foundry product is being used at the customer layer?
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07-27-2004, 11:04 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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We use Foundry for customers with GigabitEthernet ports, but the Foundry boxes are used for switching only. The more you know about layer 3 forwarding on Foundry, the more afraid you're likely to be to utilize it in that capacity. Even in a layer 2 only configuration there are caveats the network operators must be aware of.
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07-27-2004, 12:07 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by jsw6
We use Foundry for customers with GigabitEthernet ports, but the Foundry boxes are used for switching only. The more you know about layer 3 forwarding on Foundry, the more afraid you're likely to be to utilize it in that capacity. Even in a layer 2 only configuration there are caveats the network operators must be aware of.
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07-27-2004, 01:17 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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Do yourself a favor and avoid Dell,
We used a Dell Powerconnect 3024, don't make the same mistake that we did.Avi B
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07-27-2004, 04:40 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by nickn
What do you use for typical FastE customers?
Obviously we utilize the layer 3 capabilities of the 3550s, which are a great customer aggregation switch for co-location and dedicated environments. They have just the right number of ports to run one switch per cabinet, and with the EMI software, they will speak OSPF and iBGP. That makes network management tasks such as assigning additional IP addresses to customers a snap, and provides full layer 3 redundancy to every switch without worrying about spanning-tree convergence. You also don't waste IP addresses on things like HSRP or VRRP, so customer interfaces can be assigned into a /30 instead of a /29.
I also have FastEthernet ports available in my Foundry switches, but again, they are only really useful in a layer 2 capacity, in my opinion; meaning the customer gets a VLAN directly to a Juniper. This is just a flexibility measure, as sometimes you get a customer with their own switch that only has 100baseT ports but wants redundant circuits or more than 100Mb/s of capacity; other times you just don't want a sustained 100Mb user on an aggregation switch when you can move them closer to the core with a simple CAT5 patch.
If anyone has questions about how all this is implemented, feel free to AIM me. It's straight-forward, reliable, and easy to manage.Jeff at Innovative Network Concepts / 212-981-0607 x8579 / AIM: jeffsw6
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