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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    thanks, but how come that tower does not support digital cable? I thought it was standard for towers these days to support BOTH?
    Right now most machines are made with

    VGA (OLD) with HDMI

    It really depends on the manufacturer of the board.

    My LG IPS Screen is HDMI only....

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    well this is disappointing. Even my current old computer which is several yrs old (6+ yrs) from HP has both the VGA and HDMI.

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    I would always chose Intel vs AMD in the processor features and specs. This being said i would go for option 1 for sure in your case.

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    Am I being stupid for being turned off by the fact that this tower does not support HDMI? Is there quality difference between analog and HDMI?... there must be?

    That is my concern. If I use that adapter cord thing... will it still REAL digital quality?

    Thanks!

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    It looks like your monitor has a DVI connection (the white one). HDMI, DVI and DisplayPort are all digital display connections and all to some extent compatible through the use of passive adapters - like the cable EtherVM suggested:

    Quote Originally Posted by EtherVM View Post
    Buy this cable:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812270114

    with the tower and you should be all set bro.
    I think anything you can buy now will have one of those digital outputs so will work with your monitor (using a digital signal).
    Chris

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    Juliet - Buy the XPS 8700. I grabbed one about a month ago and it's a blazing fast machine. And, yeah - I had to use a DVI - VGA adapter. But you won't really notice any visual degradation from it for what you're using it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue View Post
    And, yeah - I had to use a DVI - VGA adapter.
    I really hope you meant DVI - HDMI chief!
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    SoftWareRevue,

    That's the tower that has that high gloss finish and an odd shape to the design ... so I should stop being so anal and get the below PC I was quoted when I called dell? To be honest, I will hardly even see the tower as it's hidden, so I know I need to stop being so picky about the tower.

    Price: $779
    Item Description
    XPS 8700
    8GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 2 DIMMs
    Dell KB213 Wired Multimedia Keyboard, US-English
    If accessories are purchased, they may ship separately
    NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ GT 635 1GB DDR3
    Dell SRV Software 1703
    1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
    XPS 8700, Black Chassis
    WindowsŽ 7 Professional, 64Bit, English
    Dell Laser Mouse
    16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW), write to CD/DVD
    Integrated 7.1 with WAVE MAXXAudio 4
    No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
    Dell Wireless 1703 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0
    US Power Cord
    English Documentation DAO
    1 Year Enhanced Support
    Module,Placemat,8700,Global,W8.1
    Retail Software - Win7
    Shipping Material
    4th Generation IntelŽ Core™ i5-4440 Processor (6M Cache, 3.1 GHz)
    Dell.com Order
    Shipping Material, Direct
    GOOD1501_1310/BTO
    No PDVD
    Document Reader Included
    Dropbox, Digital Delivery, 20GB for 1 Year Promotion
    Label Structured in Addl SW
    CFI Not Included
    Windows 7 OS Label
    MicrosoftŽ Office Trial
    Additional Software
    McAfee LiveSafe 12 Month Subscription
    Operating System Recovery Media Not Included

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    Now I can't make up my mind whether to get this tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883156048 ... or the XPS 7800???

    I'm usually a very decisive person, so I hate when this happens! I like to put papers on top of my tower (my desk is too small!), but with the XPS 7800 I won't be able to do that anymore due to its design... LOL
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    If you're choosing a new computer based on it's usefulness as a table you're doing something wrong.
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    LMAO

    So true, good point. Sorry, I see that I am being silly. It seems the best option would be the XPS 7800 and install an extra shelf to hold my "stuff". You think both these PCs will be equally powerful and fast? I want to buy the one that is the best one of the two.... not the one that makes a better table

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Frosty; 04-25-2014 at 10:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobic View Post
    I really hope you meant DVI - HDMI chief!
    I don't think her monitor has HDMI, does it? It's hard to tell - she talks a bit.

    My 3 week old Dell XPS 8700 has DVI and HDMI outputs. All depends on what her monitor needs.

    I have mine hooked to an old VGA monitor because it's still in break-in mode. I'm not switching until I'm certain it's working right. I'll probably transfer everything over in another week. But first impressions and after benchmarking, it's a nice box.
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    my monitor has this white plug (digital, which I think is called an HDMI, not DVI?) but also has a second "slot" for a blue analog plug... so it takes both.

    I still can't make up my mind whether to get the XPS 7800 or this PC instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883156048

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoftWareRevue View Post
    I don't think her monitor has HDMI, does it? It's hard to tell - she talks a bit.
    QFT. But I think the white connector is DVI, so it'll hook up to whatever digital output the box has. (A photo of the cable disconnected would tell us for sure).

    I have mine hooked to an old VGA monitor because it's still in break-in mode.
    Ok, makes sense I guess as a temporary thing. I've just heard about some horrible results from the cheap HDMI-to-VGA converters.

    Juliet: The specs look very similar. Realistically if you're upgrading from something a few years old whatever you get is going to be fast and powerful by comparison. Unless you have very specific needs you'd probably be happy with any of them.
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    The XPS 7800....

    8GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 2 DIMMs
    Dell KB213 Wired Multimedia Keyboard, US-English
    If accessories are purchased, they may ship separately
    NVIDIAŽ GeForceŽ GT 635 1GB DDR3
    Dell SRV Software 1703
    1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
    XPS 8700, Black Chassis
    WindowsŽ 7 Professional, 64Bit, English
    Dell Laser Mouse
    16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW), write to CD/DVD
    Integrated 7.1 with WAVE MAXXAudio 4
    No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system)
    Dell Wireless 1703 802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0
    US Power Cord
    English Documentation DAO
    1 Year Enhanced Support
    Module,Placemat,8700,Global,W8.1
    Retail Software - Win7
    Shipping Material
    4th Generation IntelŽ Core™ i5-4440 Processor (6M Cache, 3.1 GHz)
    Dell.com Order
    Shipping Material, Direct
    GOOD1501_1310/BTO
    No PDVD
    Document Reader Included
    Dropbox, Digital Delivery, 20GB for 1 Year Promotion
    Label Structured in Addl SW
    CFI Not Included
    Windows 7 OS Label
    MicrosoftŽ Office Trial
    Additional Software
    McAfee LiveSafe 12 Month Subscription
    Operating System Recovery Media Not Included

    ... is $100 more than this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883156048

    Someone put me out of my misery and tell me which one I should get because I'm being very indecisive. I'd would rather not spend $100 more... unless it's worth it I can't tell if it is....
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    I just realized that dell tried to "screw" me. They quoted me $779 for the i5 (specs shown in prior post above), not the i7 which is what newegg has on their site! So I contacted dell and mentioned I am not paying $779 for an i5 when I can get the i7 from newegg for the same price!! ... but they refuse to adjust specs, so I won't be buying directly from dell.
    Last edited by Frosty; 04-25-2014 at 07:33 PM.

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    I finally bought this PC a few minutes ago from newegg along with that little adaptable attachment thingie

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883155764

    I like the wired mesh it has on the front. Should arrive in a few days, so my computer dilemma has come to an end! LOL.

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    Option One because it's cheaper.

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    I'm going through a buying phase of desktop right now too. Here's what I usually go for: expansion, most bang per buck, and best quality parts.

    I've not purchased a prebuilt desktop in years, mine have always been custom built. Having said that, the specs you posted for what you are buying are good. Never be afraid to spend extra on something you plan on using for a long time.

    I am typing this to you on a desktop that is 6 years old. No, its not quick or flashy. Yes it's the one that is being replaced. When I built it, I intended to use it for a long time, so I sprung for what was then a bit higher than I needed. I could *still* add RAM to it, and more hard drives.

    Always plan ahead, you might get stuck with a box for a long time, and it just has to work.

    The only hardware failure I've had in it in 6 years was a memory stick. Those have lifetime warranties when you buy them yourself.

    Power supply is critical too, don't spring for cheap ones and expect them to last. Mine's an Antec TruePower Trio 550W. They were the best you could buy back then, and they still are.

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    This was an old thread you just dug up... I already bought a new HP desktop. It is defective and have sent it back for exchange.

    I prior 2 optiplex desktops I bought from dell very recently were BOTH defective. The first one's hard drive died second day and the second desktop had a fault fan making REALLY loud constant banging sounds.

    In conclusion, I have been having horrible luck lately... not just computers but lots of things. It's crazy!

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    Hi Juliet I have also gone through similar problems.

    One goes mad and can not find the logic of the case.

    When I have this type of problem, I go outside to distract, then I return and find the solution of one way or another.

    I have a lot of patience.
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    I choose #2 option, you're right since #1 option use Windows 7 Home which will make so much different at system than Pro edition and its specs really good too so I think you choose the right option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    I'm finally about to buy a new desktop new week. I must have windows 7 pro (not premium). Out of the below 2 options, which one is the the most powerful system and the better deal? I was going to buy a win 7 premium desktop and then upgrade it to pro myself, but too worried I will run into problems (would rather get win 7 pro from the start). Do you see anything potentially important that was left out for option #2 that might be missing that you would add? Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks

    I know it's more expensive to get the tower with win 7 premium, but I need win 7 pro.

    ====OPTION #1: $479
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit, English, No Media
    225-2990 1 INSPIRON 660
    338-BBKB 1 3rd Generation Intel Core i5-3330 processor (6M Cache, up to 3.2 GHz)
    319-0061 1 8GB DDR3 SDRAM, 1600MHz-2X4GB
    331-9333 1 Dell KB113 USB Wired Entry Keyboard, US-English
    320-7810 1 If accessories are purchased, they may ship separately
    331-7181 1 Integrated Intel HD Graphics
    421-7640 1 Dell SRV Software 1506
    342-4464 1 1TB Hard Drive, 3.5", 7200rpm, SATA
    318-2598 1 Inspiron 660 Chassis, MT, Black w/8:1 media card reader
    318-0938 1 Black Bezel
    330-8652 1 Dell USB Optical Mouse MS111
    430-3628 1 Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
    410-0565 1 Document Reader Included
    318-2074 1 DVD+/-RW Tray Load Drive, 16X, SATA
    331-2594 1 Integrated 5.1
    313-6138 1 No Speaker Requested
    430-4719 1 Dell DW1506 (802.11 b/g/n) WLAN half mini-Card
    331-5795 1 US Power Cord
    331-9255 1 Documents, Inspiron 660, English
    331-9448 1 Placemat,Inspiron,660,Global,WIN8
    331-9880 1 Shipping material for DAO, Inspiron 660
    658-BBKT 1 Additional Software
    331-8195 1 LBL,REG,Inspiron 660
    331-7182 1 Dell Resource DVD,BACK-UP,I660
    421-7997 1 No PDVD
    630-AAAV 1 Software: Microsoft Office 2013 Trial, MUI


    ====OPTION #2: $599
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit, English, No Media
    210-ABNB 1 Inspiron 3847
    370-ABEK 1 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz (4GBx2)
    580-ABNK 1 MOD,KYBD,104,US,KB113,W8,SIB
    480-AACF 1 No Monitor
    490-BBPC 1 Integrated Graphics included
    658-BBVN 1 Dell SRV Software 1705
    400-ABVB 1 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
    321-BBFF 1 Inspiron 3847 Chassiss, MT, NPFC Black w/8:1 media card reader
    570-AAAS 1 Dell MS111 USB 3-Button Optical Mouse
    429-AAKY 1 Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
    520-AAAO 1 No Speaker Requested
    555-BBOU 1 Dell Wireless-N 1705 @ 2.4GHz + Bluetooth 4.0
    450-AAGO 1 US Power Cord
    340-AGLV 1 Module,Guide,Product,Multiple User Interface,Safety/ Environmental And Regulatory Information,Dell Americas Organization
    939-0103 1 Dell Limited Hardware Warranty, Initial Year
    939-0733 1 Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Plus In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis, Initial Year
    939-1363 1 Premium Phone Support, 90 days
    950-3337 1 1 Year Limited Warranty
    950-9797 1 No Warranty, Year 2 and 3
    983-3680 1 Warranty Support, Initial Year
    338-BDJJ 1 4th Generation Intel Core i5-4440 (6M Cache, 3.3 GHz)
    630-AAAV 1 Software: Microsoft Office 2013 Trial, MUI
    461-AAAD 1 McAfee Live Safe 12 Month Subscription
    640-BBEM 1 Retail-Marker
    640-BBEO 1 Software, Retail Registration 1.0
    811-BBBC 1 Retail Label, Dell, RETURNPOL
    404-BBBL 1 Black Bezel
    387-BBCE 1 No Energy Star
    389-BDQH 1 Print on Demand Label
    730-8033 1 Fixed Hardware Configuration
    332-1286 1 Non-Canada Orders only
    421-7997 1 No PDVD
    469-2486 1 CFI Not Included
    330-7464 1 Windows 7 OS Label
    340-ACBR 1 Placemat Inspiron 3847
    340-ABWX 1 Shipping Material, Direct
    389-BDOS 1 Regulatory Label
    658-BBUH 1 Additional Software
    658-BBXI 1 Item Included (for Window OS only) WIN7
    340-ACQQ 1 No Dedicated GPS

    I'll using this new PC for normal standard personal and business use and will be replacing my old PC that I've been using thus far. Old PC only has 1 gig ram and poor specs (it is a slooooow slug), so hoping I will see a HUGE improvement in performance!

    Have you looked at building your own PC? I would check out sites like newegg/NCIX/tigerdirect/etc. You can usually get barebones kits adequately cheap that you can put together.

    I personally use Craigslist to buy parts, and then just buy the necessary components that I need. You can usually save a couple hundred dollars by buying used RAM/Cases/etc.

    (Don't buy used PSU's or drives. You never know what they've been through)
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