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04-04-2006, 03:19 PM #276Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by webgrab
I never said Xen wasn't a nice technology but we chose Virtuozzo for Management Reasons and overall customer experience. Performance if you base it on benchmarks is not a good source of measuring how good your VPS is. The two are not similar in how they operate. Good luck.
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04-04-2006, 04:48 PM #277Newbie
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Greetings Jay,
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04-04-2006, 04:57 PM #278Eternal Member
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Greetings webgrab ,
If you please see some pages back, almost 90% or more then that virtuozzo based VPs score about ~40, mine is about 148 - if i remember well. Almost 4 times more power, in comparatively small pack, as i am on 128MB RAM. So much of ppl understand how i said 400%.
You are mistaken, I never wrote 185 on Xen VPS, Maybe you intermingled any other post/person.
Well Benchmarking is the only means to get performance measure in my knowledge - I admit I dont have much knowledge, But so many pages/posts dedicated to this benchmarking topic and providers promptly replying to benchmark results made me think its a genuine measure, I dont see any other topic regarding the performance measures of VPS. If you please know any other sort of judging VPS performance, letme know I will perform that with my system, and post my results in the forum.
Choice is a personal preference, Management features in VZPP like reboot/restart is essential, as its a bursting feature needs much more frequent reboots even compared to a physical dedibox, but when speaking overall customer experience I dont see much of positive majority, Here we see ppl getting like 8~10 score from very old and famous providers, This thing makes a panic in the overall experience.
Hardly anybody is getting 8-10, I am seeing a lot of 30-50 and 100+ in Virtuozzo 3 scores.
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04-04-2006, 04:59 PM #279Web Hosting Master
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You said 148 so my mistake. So this puts you very close to a Virtuozzo 3.0 VPS. I mean real close. A score of 8 or 10.... would be a poor performing VPS..(based on benchmarks scoring). Virtuozzo 2.6 didn't have as high of benchmarks but keep in mind not all providers configure and operate at the same level. I would suspect some Virtuozzo 3.0 benchmarks will come in sooner then later as it just came out a few weeks ago.
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04-04-2006, 05:01 PM #280Eternal Member
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webgrab,
Just to add to my former post,
19:59:51 up 76 days, 21:11, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.05, 0.01
Rebooted often? Think as you wish.
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04-04-2006, 05:02 PM #281Web Hosting Rockstar
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04-04-2006, 05:28 PM #282Newbie
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Hi elix,
. Yah, I know VZ3 has lesser overhead, I dont think lesser foorprint will make this much difference like everyperson is saying, The problem is overselling which make every VPS account leave very less resources.
.I got like 148 on my Xen system, unixbench report on previous page.
.real world performance, ok I go n sleep now, maybe when i awake after 8 hours i will see my pages are loaded if my score is "2". Man PHP rules, I am not a HTML only guy.
.Burst RAM feature in VZ requires much more reboots, as when you utilise a big portion of burst RAM and at a moment when burst RAM is not available to you and only your guaranteed RAM is available, Your VPS starts bogging and the only solution is a reboot. You got it, if you go over guaranteed RAM limits more often, you naturally feel that everything is bogging. But in Xen you have Swap which gives you a different kind of treatment and you can keep without rebooting unless you need a reboot for installing a software, - Its the best of my knowledge and expertise, If i am wrong please correct me.0
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04-04-2006, 05:34 PM #283Newbie
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04-05-2006, 02:11 PM #284Newbie
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Note that site was running normally and was not disabled during tests. Site was having moderate/low load.
Interestingly there was no slowdown for the website during the test
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Start Benchmark Run: Wed Apr 5 23:23:04 IST 2006
23:23:04 up 12 days, 2:01, 0 users, load average: 0.51, 0.46, 0.49
End Benchmark Run: Wed Apr 5 23:37:31 IST 2006
23:37:31 up 12 days, 2:15, 0 users, load average: 13.48, 6.42, 3.46
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TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 8334910.2 221.2
Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 719.0 86.5
Execl Throughput 188.3 1096.9 58.3
File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 85949.0 321.7
File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 17649.0 163.9
File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 519841.0 338.0
Pipe Throughput 111814.6 1276561.8 114.2
Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 190108.3 123.1
Process Creation 569.3 3159.5 55.5
Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 266.8 59.6
System Call Overhead 114433.5 1459907.8 127.6
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FINAL SCORE 125.1
A good score I thinkLast edited by [MaxX]; 04-05-2006 at 02:18 PM.
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04-06-2006, 05:18 PM #285Web Hosting Master
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Since this thread primarily is focused around Xen and Virtuozzo I figured it would be good to post some news. Virtuozzo won the award at Linuxworld this week for product excellence in the "Virtualization category". Xen was in the competition along with Vmware and Virtual Iron. Have a nice day.
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04-06-2006, 09:42 PM #286Newbie
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servint $49/mo total cPanel/WHM 200G Transfer 10GB Storage 1GB RAM Rat Hat 9.0
Code:BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux xxxxxx*********** 2.4.20-021stab028.19.777-enterprise #1 SMP Wed Oct 19 13:05:01 MSD 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux /dev/vzfs 31457280 20139644 11317636 65% / Start Benchmark Run: Thu Apr 6 21:23:23 EDT 2006 21:23:23 up 9 days, 19:53, 1 user, load average: 0.47, 0.55, 0.54 End Benchmark Run: Thu Apr 6 21:35:10 EDT 2006 21:35:10 up 9 days, 20:05, 1 user, load average: 15.04, 6.95, 3.57 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 1994794.0 52.9 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 488.0 58.7 Execl Throughput 188.3 710.8 37.7 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 5267.0 19.7 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 1997.0 18.5 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 103424.0 67.2 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 101824.9 9.1 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 25732.7 16.7 Process Creation 569.3 810.7 14.2 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 128.8 28.8 System Call Overhead 114433.5 53594.5 4.7 ========= FINAL SCORE 22.7
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Code:BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux vps.24proxy.com 2.6.8-022stab070.4-enterprise #1 SMP Mon Mar 6 1 MSK 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux /dev/vzfs 10485760 660184 9825576 7% / Start Benchmark Run: Thu Apr 6 21:48:54 CDT 2006 21:48:54 up 1:33, 1 user, load average: 0.67, 3.22, 2.19 End Benchmark Run: Thu Apr 6 22:00:24 CDT 2006 22:00:24 up 1:44, 1 user, load average: 13.60, 6.23, 3.70 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 5044296.6 133.9 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1323.8 159.3 Execl Throughput 188.3 1096.1 58.2 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 20664.0 77.3 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 5703.0 53.0 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 122991.0 80.0 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 170414.1 15.2 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 59975.4 38.8 Process Creation 569.3 4318.8 75.9 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 289.6 64.6 System Call Overhead 114433.5 240800.9 21.0 ========= FINAL SCORE 58.0
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04-07-2006, 12:55 AM #288Disabled
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Originally Posted by Knownhost - J
That's awesome. There's small article about it here, which is the best I could find so far: http://www.thehostingnews.com/article2166.html0
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04-08-2006, 01:57 AM #289New Member
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XelHosting VPS (Plan #2 - 256 MB)
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BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht)
System -- Linux fedora5-02.myxen.com 2.6.16-xenU #6 SMP Fri Apr 7 16:28:12 CDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
/dev/sda1 8323072 836716 7486356 11% /
Start Benchmark Run: Sat Apr 8 01:39:17 EDT 2006
01:39:17 up 5:58, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00
End Benchmark Run: Sat Apr 8 01:49:52 EDT 2006
01:49:52 up 6:08, 1 user, load average: 18.81, 7.16, 3.04
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TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX
Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 9045379.5 240.1
Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1071.0 128.9
Execl Throughput 188.3 2094.9 111.3
File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 147024.0 550.2
File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 43078.0 400.0
File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 880463.0 572.4
Pipe Throughput 111814.6 937531.5 83.8
Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 150776.3 97.6
Process Creation 569.3 3515.0 61.7
Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 440.8 98.4
System Call Overhead 114433.5 1199778.3 104.8
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FINAL SCORE 163.7
I will say that this is 'right out the box' and am using this as a base-case to compare against when tuning the machine for true deployment.
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04-11-2006, 01:28 PM #290Junior Guru Wannabe
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Code:BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux localhost 2.6.12.6-xenU #6 SMP Thu Mar 30 11:26:10 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux /dev/sda1 12337072 649812 11060572 6% / Start Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 11 12:45:02 EDT 2006 12:45:02 up 17:05, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00 End Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 11 12:55:41 EDT 2006 12:55:41 up 17:15, 1 user, load average: 13.68, 6.15, 2.76 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 7973923.9 211.6 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1101.2 132.5 Execl Throughput 188.3 2077.1 110.3 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 71030.0 265.8 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 23244.0 215.8 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 436021.0 283.5 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 1031892.0 92.3 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 156735.6 101.5 Process Creation 569.3 3181.8 55.9 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 559.6 124.9 System Call Overhead 114433.5 1187817.3 103.8 ========= FINAL SCORE 137.8
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04-17-2006, 09:10 AM #291Web Hosting Master
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jpetersen ,
Yes, it is a great achievement and says a lot. I would like to hear why Virtuozzo was lucky on this one.. This shows how benchmarks are like knowing what someone runs the 40 yard dash in but they don't state the weather conditions. Of course on an indoor track you will run fast. If it is raining outside and you are running in your football cleats of course it will be slower. Same applies.
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04-17-2006, 09:17 AM #292Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally Posted by Knownhost - J
So, even though i believe virtuozzo can't beat xen in the exact same conditions, i also believe it doesn't matter much for them because of this.0
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04-18-2006, 01:27 AM #293Junior Guru Wannabe
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Code:============================================================== BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux ###################### 2.6.8-022stab067.1-enterprise #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 20:55:01 MSK 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux /dev/vzfs 20971520 2523105 18448415 13% / Start Benchmark Run: Mon Apr 17 23:49:07 COT 2006 23:49:07 up 1 day, 23:03, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 End Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 00:02:15 COT 2006 00:02:15 up 1 day, 23:17, 1 user, load average: 14.92, 6.44, 3.00 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 10255452.8 272.2 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1322.8 159.2 Execl Throughput 188.3 2331.1 123.8 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 22997.0 86.1 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 8950.0 83.1 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 331407.0 215.5 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 378459.0 33.8 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 107896.7 69.8 Process Creation 569.3 6114.7 107.4 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 526.7 117.6 System Call Overhead 114433.5 451675.5 39.5 ========= FINAL SCORE 99.8
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powervps and vpsland benchmarks
I'm currently testing out different vps hosts at the moment because I found powervps to be slow. I'm running an encrypted proxy server on my vps which has been tailored for low cpu usage but powervps doesnt seem to have the power I need. I tried out vpsland and it was great at first cpu and bandwidth wise but then the bandwidth went slow all of a sudden and is staying slow. They say they haven't changed anything but I have my doubts. Anyway as you can see powervps really lacks power compared to vpsland. I'm trying out unixshell next and will cancel both powervps and vpsland if all goes well.
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Code:============================================================== BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.12.6-vpsX #3 SMP Fri Mar 31 23:10:28 EST 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux /dev/sda1 10321208 3075352 6721568 32% / Start Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 15:55:14 EDT 2006 15:55:14 up 3 days, 10:59, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.02, 0.00 End Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 16:06:30 EDT 2006 16:06:30 up 3 days, 11:10, 2 users, load average: 15.04, 6.35, 2.87 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 1674293.2 44.4 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 767.0 92.3 Execl Throughput 188.3 878.3 46.6 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 60571.0 226.7 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 23318.0 216.5 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 410059.0 266.6 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 322077.7 28.8 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 62625.6 40.5 Process Creation 569.3 1555.7 27.3 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 246.9 55.1 System Call Overhead 114433.5 492819.8 43.1 ========= FINAL SCORE 69.7
Code:============================================================== BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux host.neilking.com 2.4.20-021stab028.19.777-enterprise #1 SMP Wed Oct 19 13:05:01 MSD 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux /dev/vzfs 5242880 4912716 330164 94% / Start Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 15:55:06 EDT 2006 15:55:06 up 32 days, 1:27, 2 users, load average: 0.55, 0.21, 0.07 End Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 16:16:45 EDT 2006 16:16:46 up 32 days, 1:49, 2 users, load average: 16.94, 7.90, 4.84 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 598040.7 15.9 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 949.5 114.3 Execl Throughput 188.3 131.4 7.0 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 1619.0 6.1 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 507.0 4.7 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 15180.0 9.9 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 21314.1 1.9 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 6213.6 4.0 Process Creation 569.3 112.8 2.0 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 17.0 3.8 System Call Overhead 114433.5 36115.5 3.2 ========= FINAL SCORE 6.3
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04-18-2006, 11:45 PM #295Web Hosting Master
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The Powervps score is low but I am sure it is on VZ 2.6 which is based on the RH 2.4 kernel. Not an excuse but now a days 100+ is easy on a VZ 3.0 server. Did you talk to them about it? Best of luck.
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04-18-2006, 11:47 PM #296New Member
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Hmmm, maybe I'll talk to them and give them a chance to fix the situation as their support is top quality and it would be a shame to lose it.
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04-18-2006, 11:48 PM #297Web Hosting Master
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Yes, contact them.
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Code:BYTE UNIX Benchmarks (Version 4.1-wht) System -- Linux server1.hominghost.com 2.6.8-022stab070.1-entnosplit #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 18:26:08 MSK 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux /dev/vzfs 7340032 258280 7081752 4% / Start Benchmark Run: Tue Apr 18 23:50:25 EDT 2006 23:50:25 up 3:20, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 End Benchmark Run: Wed Apr 19 00:01:09 EDT 2006 00:01:09 up 3:31, 0 users, load average: 15.21, 6.31, 2.74 INDEX VALUES TEST BASELINE RESULT INDEX Dhrystone 2 using register variables 376783.7 6063096.6 160.9 Double-Precision Whetstone 83.1 1151.6 138.6 Execl Throughput 188.3 2339.8 124.3 File Copy 1024 bufsize 2000 maxblocks 2672.0 29588.0 110.7 File Copy 256 bufsize 500 maxblocks 1077.0 12731.0 118.2 File Read 4096 bufsize 8000 maxblocks 15382.0 385752.0 250.8 Pipe Throughput 111814.6 965803.4 86.4 Pipe-based Context Switching 15448.6 161116.8 104.3 Process Creation 569.3 5275.0 92.7 Shell Scripts (8 concurrent) 44.8 452.8 101.1 System Call Overhead 114433.5 1610397.6 140.7 ========= FINAL SCORE 124.1
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Gotta love the support response times with powervps. Unfortunately the answer they gave was not what I was looking for:
"Unix bench is for dedicated servers and is not recommended in VPSes. When
you run unixbench on a VPS, you are just hogging the cpu and thus affecting all
the VPSes hosted in the node. If you see any delay with your sites, then, let us
know the URL concerned and we will help you in everyway possible to get it
rectified. Regarding the Virtuozzo version - Your node has Virtuozzo version
2.6.2."
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04-19-2006, 12:29 AM #300Web Hosting Master
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That is a true comment.
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