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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom Active View Post
    The data centers use servers which are powered by direct current instead of alternating current
    Did you really just say that? Here is a test for you. Open the hood to your car, and grab the Positive and Negative leads.. Did that hurt? Thats "direct current" or D/C. Now stick a knife in the socket on the wall. Did that hurt? That's "Alternating Current" or A/C. D/C is merely current flows in one direction only. A/C means it flows in both direction.

    What's the moral of the story? Your post made no sense. "green" has nothing to do with A/C or D/C.
    Green Hosting isn't really a sham itself, but the industry of renewable energy is. It has nothing to do with saving anything. Its about money. Have you ever driven past a wind farm, and seen 1/2 or more of the turbines not turning? Wonder why that is. Because they ONLY generate the power that is purchased first.... If it was about saving the world, they would try to load the grid with their "renewable" energy and drive out CO2 emitting power plants out. They are not, and so they are a scam. Also, have you seen anything from environmentalist now going after wind farms? Yeah, killing and displacing wildlife. lol. SO which is it? Saving the planet or killing humans?
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    Green web hosting is great for obvious reasons - with the backing of a respectable green web host, you can feel good about your role in saving the earth, since green web hosts use alternative / renewable energy, plant trees, recycling waste and purchase RECs to power their datacenters.
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  3. #28
    When a host helps the earth.
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    Green or Eco-friendly website hosting is a recent addition to the field of website hosting which involves a given website hosting company attempting to prove that they are not having any negative impact on the environment in an attempt to attract consumers.
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    Green or Eco-friendly website hosting is a recent addition to the field of website hosting which involves a given website hosting company attempting to prove that they are not having any negative impact on the environment in an attempt to attract consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicToMeyeZR View Post
    What's the moral of the story? Your post made no sense. "green" has nothing to do with A/C or D/C.
    I beg to differ. Compare two racks - one running AC and one running DC. If all the servers mounted in each rack are running at 70% - which one do you think is consuming more power from the grid? Additionally, which one is generating more heat? I know of one large managed hosting company that's switching all it's racks and servers to DC power to mitigate power consumption and heat. While the outlays are more expensive to start with, the costs saved benefit both the business and in turn, the environment.

    There is something else here though - most people are referring to the datacenter in reference to 'Green Hosting'. A large portion of that is correct however the OP did say "Green Hosting" and not "Green Datacenter".

    For example, my company use only low emission vehicles in the fleet. All of our paper is recycled (what little we use). Our office equipment is largely based on recycled materials (even some of the chairs!) and we actively recycle all of our waste into a plethora of coloured bins which are collected weekly. Our old IT equipment is taken away to be recycled or donated to charities that send it out to third world countries.

    While a lot of people claim 'Green' to be a gimmick, we take the opinion that every little helps.. and if it's something we can do within the scope of our businesses then we should be making every effort to do it. 'Green' is more than just what energy supplier you use. If you really think hard about it, there's a lost more you can be doing to reduce your 'carbon footprint' (hate that phrase) than just changing your energy supplier!
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  7. #32
    I would think the only substantive metric would be if the grid powering the DC is using a renewable energy source (i.e. solar, wind, etc...).

    There are probably hosting companies that are quite green by this definition and don't even know it.

    Conversely, there could be others that are fed from a coal-burning plant but call themselves green because they toss their beer cans in a recycling bin at the end of their shifts.

    While it may be better that a DC uses as little power as possible, if the source they are using a renewable one, I don't see why this would be so important.
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    I think too many companies that purchase carbon offsets think that is truly green hosting when in fact it's just a way of being able to claim you're green when you are just as bad as the factory polluting the sky because of illegal emissions. Buying a hybrid car is going green, buying a v8 gas guzzler and then buying a couple carbon offsets, not green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajanNOPPIX View Post
    A gimmick.
    Yup! +1 here
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  10. #35
    Green hosting is when servers are run eco friendly aint it? Like by solar panels or wind turbines.
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    Other ways involve the methods used for cooling the datacenter in a way that reduces energy consumption. A/C units use HUGE amounts of power when the compressors kick in and anything that can be done to reduce the use of those compressors in the cooling of the datacenter could be considered green IMHO
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  12. #37
    I think, that idea is nice. But to give green Hosting services for customers are quite difficult, because prices will be higher. I think it's good, but I'm not sure, that I would like pay more...
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  13. #38
    Green hosting is a marketing Gimmick to pull potential customers . you never know in future there might even be Cool servers hosting servers which are based underground lol
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    It can be a gimmick if the host does not follow environmentally friendly practices. But if a) data center is indeed powered or cooled with renewable energy and b) if the host offsets their electricity usage with wind or solar power investments, then it is no gimmick.
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    Indeed it is a advantage to use green power for your datacenter, one of the reasons is environmental friendly usage, the other advantage is that it is cheaper than standard power supplies. Every solution has advantages and disadvantages.
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    Green or Eco-friendly website hosting is a modern new invention to the website hosting service provider which includes a Pre existing website hosting company make a attempt to prove that they are not doing any negative work and it does not impact bad on the environment to attract the end users and force them to take a measurable action.


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    Reduce carbon dioxide emissions
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    Green Hosting - good marketing trick

    The only point in "Green hosting" is marketing trick to get more sales, no real impact on nature from my point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubservers View Post
    Yup! +1 here
    It's not a Gimmick, Just terminology at it's best.
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    Some hosting companies claim to power their datacenters using wind. FatCow is an example.They also have graphics of windmills at the bottom of the page. Though, I don't see any mention of the word "green". Even if they're telling the truth, that word seems gimmicky to me.
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    When you see hosts advertising green hosting. They're probably just using that to lure you in.

    I personally don't care whether there using power from a coal power plant or wind generators, or even solar power.

    Just them being green hosting doesn't mean they are a good host. So that doesn't affect my decision at all.

    I'll go with whichever one is the best host and has good reputation. Whether they are green or not.

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  22. #47

    Strange Experience with Fat Cow

    I just had the weirdest experience with Fat Cow web hosting. I found them in a search and called them up to ask them some questions. I got a chipper-sounding woman on the line named Amy. It turns out that I live near them, but I wasn't aware of any wind farms in the area. As soon as I asked her which wind farm they used, she said that I had to speak to "operations" and she "transferred" me before I had a chance to say anything (but actually she disconnected me). I called back and got Amy on the line again. Before I continued, I got her assurances that she wouldn't disconnect me again. I asked a couple more questions -- and then she disconnected me again!

    I can't imagine why they would treat a prospective customer like that. The questions I was asking were pretty basic: how long have they been in business?, where are they located?, do they have their own servers?, what wind farm is nearby that they are using? -- and also some questions about domain names and how I should open an account for a friend who is computer-illiterate. Since they are cheap and close by, I probably would have opened an account with them -- but not now.
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    I think anybody can use any number of metrics or features and say that their data centre is green. I think what's needed is a recognized certification to say that a data centre is environmentally-responsible in some way.

    For example, the Uptime Institute (http://uptimeinstitute.com/) is recognized in its certification of data centre tiers (Tier I through IV).

    Maybe if the data centre building was LEED certified, it would prove something too.
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    Is Green Hosting Really a Gimic?

    How seriously should I be taking Green Hosting? My webhost has nearly 1500 sites on my server alone. Is this a bad place to be?
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    I don't really understand why people think that buying carbon offsets doesn't help the environment. You clearly do not understand how a power grid works.

    By buying carbon offsets, the money is put towards those wind farms to spool up their generators and provide more power to the grid. While this may not directly power your servers, it will power someone elses home, business, etc. This means that less fossil fuels will be needed to keep the grid up and running.

    Another thing I've seen some green hosting outfits do is plant a tree program. For every account (or every 5 accounts, etc), they plant a tree. Typically they use a service for this, since its widely outside the scope of a hosting company to literally go out and plant a tree somewhere. I'm sure everyone can agree, that this DOES impact the environment.
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