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  1. #101
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    Feel free (anyone) to attach the email to the thread... the community is a pretty good judge of what is and isnt authentic around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirius View Post
    Feel free (anyone) to attach the email to the thread... the community is a pretty good judge of what is and isnt authentic around here.

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    If you say so

    Just got off the phone with Tammy (ex: 116) and I asked her to forward the thread on to Chris(i said his full name), and she said OK

    Edit: would just like to note that this is not my screenshot; I merely got a hold of it from another member and am posting it for others to comment. I am not responsible for the validity of the image below; but I do believe it to be valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Techark View Post
    Does anyone know who the principal owners of PR are?
    No.

    There is no Pacific Rack registered with the California Secretary of State, so it's assumed the company is operated under OC3 Networks as the parent company.

    Link:
    http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/Sh...r=200105110022
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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by CrissicSolutions View Post
    If you say so

    Just got off the phone with Tammy (ex: 116) and I asked her to forward the thread on to Chris(i said his full name), and she said OK
    OMG!

    did you see that line Chris Gotzmann(me)?
    This is getting interesting.
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    And the plot thickens.. dun dun dun
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    What does strike me, is if he's Chris Gotzmann, why would he have to say - "for Chris Gotzmann (me)" - Unless they're all braindead, they would know it's him. The "(me)", in my book, kind of puts a weird tone on it.
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    Here is what I don't get.

    Why is there a screenshot of anyone's email? Do people routinely take screenshots of their email?

    I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    Here is what I don't get.

    Why is there a screenshot of anyone's email? Do people routinely take screenshots of their email?

    I don't.
    Perhaps, if all of this is true, it was because the mighty whistle blower inside of PR wanted to show it to folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolraul View Post
    Here is what I don't get.

    Why is there a screenshot of anyone's email? Do people routinely take screenshots of their email?

    I don't.
    If you knew who he was; wouldn't you take a screen shot of it in case evidence was needed at a later date? I would
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    Quote Originally Posted by r00ter View Post
    What does strike me, is if he's Chris Gotzmann, why would he have to say - "for Chris Gotzmann (me)" - Unless they're all braindead, they would know it's him. The "(me)", in my book, kind of puts a weird tone on it.
    I think when he send the e-mail to "engineering", many people ready this e-mail... that`s with he says: "Hi Guys"...
    So, some people could know he is Chris Gotzmann, but one or other could not know that.. thats why he explained: "(me)"
    I got that....
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  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by CrissicSolutions View Post
    If you knew who he was; wouldn't you take a screen shot of it in case evidence was needed at a later date? I would
    The email is dated on 23 June 08..so it is pretty recent.

    Quote Originally Posted by pedroivomedeiros View Post
    I think when he send the e-mail to "engineering", many people ready this e-mail... that`s with he says: "Hi Guys"...
    So, some people could know he is Chris Gotzmann, but one or other could not know that.. thats why he explained: "(me)"
    I got that....
    Probably right..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mxhub View Post
    The email is dated on 23 June 08..so it is pretty recent.
    That wasn't exactly what I meant.

    What I meant was; the email was sent to "engineering" not to any individual (thus the "Hi guys"); so therefore it is safe to assume that there are a few people inside who are not to excited over the fact that PacificRack/OC3Networks has covered it up on purpose.
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    The image of the e-mail looks pretty authentic but it's obviously not beyond falsification so I wouldn't rely upon it as "evidence"

    As for Alex/Chris/PR/OC3 or whoever being quiet on the issue, honestly whether they are at fault/not or whether the accusations are true or not, I don't blame them at all. Sometimes it is better to let a thread run it's course and die off without any *real* evidence than to defend yourself/fight back against the non-validated evidence which will cause some to believe that the evidence is factual due to you getting defensive.

    Although I am going to watch this thread as it's been interesting so far.
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  14. #114
    Yes indeed, that pic is Jordan Jacobs. He goes by PRJordan on wht. Usually see lots of posts from him. Strangely absent now. What about it PRJordan?
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    Jordan also runs a company called fragnservers(.com), but i wouldn't connect him to this operation. He probably didn't think about it for a second.
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    Jordan is an employee of PR. Sales manager I think. Been there a month or 2. I am not sure he still owns a part of Fraggnservers.
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  17. #117
    this become big pretty fast, if all of you waiting alex , why the heck you dont give him a call directly from pacificrack and require him to join here and clear the problem , is more easy than post 100 thread's about him isn't that right?
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    Looks like we have an answer :O
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    Well....I'm not supervised by this as I had been told this a while ago. OC3 Networks was a pretty shady operation back in the day so I can't believe it surprises anyone they hired Chris.
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    Is WHT going to disable and ban all of PR from posting and being mentioned here?
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    I guess WHT have their reason to suspend Alex's account here.. maybe they don't want him to change any details ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mxhub View Post
    I guess WHT have their reason to suspend Alex's account here.. maybe they don't want him to change any details ..
    Repeat after me:

    There

    is

    no

    Alex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tical View Post
    Repeat after me:

    There

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    Alex.
    lol.. sorry.
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    Alex is not an owner of PacificRack, he is a sales person.

    I've known him since he started for PacificRack 1 year ago and he's never told me otherwise. Why would you ban the company as a whole? As we have seen there are other people there like Jordan Jacobs from ex-GNAX/AtlantaNAP that would not be related to this.

    How do you people even know the owner knew anything about Chris Gotzmann, the world doesn't revolve around WHT. Not to mention that this thread was created in the middle of a weekend and its doubtful they'd post anything without first evaluating the situation and possibly speaking to legal counsel.

    Companies hire new people for sales all the time, who or what a sales guy has done in the past doesn't mean anything if he's just selling hosting and does not actually have any control over the money aspect of the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eclouds View Post
    I've known him since he started for PacificRack 1 year ago and he's never told me otherwise.
    Have you ever heard of this thing called a Lie?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie

    Now if Alex is really Chris, I have no doubt he would lie to you.

    But again that is if Alex is really Chris. I too can confirm seeing chris's name on the access list.
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