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08-03-2008, 10:20 PM #101Retired Moderator
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Feel free (anyone) to attach the email to the thread... the community is a pretty good judge of what is and isnt authentic around here.
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08-03-2008, 10:21 PM #102Web Hosting Master
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If you say so
Just got off the phone with Tammy (ex: 116) and I asked her to forward the thread on to Chris(i said his full name), and she said OK
Edit: would just like to note that this is not my screenshot; I merely got a hold of it from another member and am posting it for others to comment. I am not responsible for the validity of the image below; but I do believe it to be valid.Last edited by Skylar MacMinn; 08-03-2008 at 10:27 PM.
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08-03-2008, 10:26 PM #103Web Hosting Master
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No.
There is no Pacific Rack registered with the California Secretary of State, so it's assumed the company is operated under OC3 Networks as the parent company.
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http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/Sh...r=2001051100220
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08-03-2008, 10:27 PM #104Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:37 PM #105Web Hosting Master
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And the plot thickens.. dun dun dun
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08-03-2008, 10:40 PM #106Web Hosting Master
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What does strike me, is if he's Chris Gotzmann, why would he have to say - "for Chris Gotzmann (me)" - Unless they're all braindead, they would know it's him. The "(me)", in my book, kind of puts a weird tone on it.
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08-03-2008, 10:41 PM #107Retired Moderator
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Here is what I don't get.
Why is there a screenshot of anyone's email? Do people routinely take screenshots of their email?
I don't.CloudNexus Technology Services
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08-03-2008, 10:43 PM #108Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:43 PM #109Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:46 PM #110Junior Guru Wannabe
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08-03-2008, 10:47 PM #111Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:49 PM #112Web Hosting Master
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That wasn't exactly what I meant.
What I meant was; the email was sent to "engineering" not to any individual (thus the "Hi guys"); so therefore it is safe to assume that there are a few people inside who are not to excited over the fact that PacificRack/OC3Networks has covered it up on purpose.0
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08-03-2008, 11:29 PM #113Web Hosting Industry Expert
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The image of the e-mail looks pretty authentic but it's obviously not beyond falsification so I wouldn't rely upon it as "evidence"
As for Alex/Chris/PR/OC3 or whoever being quiet on the issue, honestly whether they are at fault/not or whether the accusations are true or not, I don't blame them at all. Sometimes it is better to let a thread run it's course and die off without any *real* evidence than to defend yourself/fight back against the non-validated evidence which will cause some to believe that the evidence is factual due to you getting defensive.
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08-03-2008, 11:33 PM #114Junior Guru Wannabe
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Yes indeed, that pic is Jordan Jacobs. He goes by PRJordan on wht. Usually see lots of posts from him. Strangely absent now. What about it PRJordan?
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08-03-2008, 11:40 PM #115Disabled
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Jordan also runs a company called fragnservers(.com), but i wouldn't connect him to this operation. He probably didn't think about it for a second.
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08-03-2008, 11:51 PM #116Junior Guru Wannabe
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Jordan is an employee of PR. Sales manager I think. Been there a month or 2. I am not sure he still owns a part of Fraggnservers.
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08-04-2008, 12:33 AM #117Newbie
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this become big pretty fast, if all of you waiting alex , why the heck you dont give him a call directly from pacificrack and require him to join here and clear the problem , is more easy than post 100 thread's about him isn't that right?
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08-04-2008, 12:45 AM #118antitheistic atheist
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08-04-2008, 12:52 AM #119Away
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Well....I'm not supervised by this as I had been told this a while ago. OC3 Networks was a pretty shady operation back in the day so I can't believe it surprises anyone they hired Chris.
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08-04-2008, 01:00 AM #120Doh!!
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Is WHT going to disable and ban all of PR from posting and being mentioned here?
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08-04-2008, 01:08 AM #121Web Hosting Master
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I guess WHT have their reason to suspend Alex's account here.. maybe they don't want him to change any details ..
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08-04-2008, 01:10 AM #122The least among you.
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08-04-2008, 01:12 AM #123Web Hosting Master
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08-04-2008, 01:13 AM #124SEO Extraordinaire
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Alex is not an owner of PacificRack, he is a sales person.
I've known him since he started for PacificRack 1 year ago and he's never told me otherwise. Why would you ban the company as a whole? As we have seen there are other people there like Jordan Jacobs from ex-GNAX/AtlantaNAP that would not be related to this.
How do you people even know the owner knew anything about Chris Gotzmann, the world doesn't revolve around WHT. Not to mention that this thread was created in the middle of a weekend and its doubtful they'd post anything without first evaluating the situation and possibly speaking to legal counsel.
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08-04-2008, 01:23 AM #125Problem Solver
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Have you ever heard of this thing called a Lie?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie
Now if Alex is really Chris, I have no doubt he would lie to you.
But again that is if Alex is really Chris. I too can confirm seeing chris's name on the access list.Steven Ciaburri | Industry's Best Server Management - Rack911.com
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