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08-03-2008, 08:46 PM #76Rockin' the beer gut
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08-03-2008, 08:47 PM #77Web Hosting Evangelist
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08-03-2008, 08:47 PM #78Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 09:08 PM #79Web Hosting Master
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This is a very interesting topic, as I happen to like Alex - and have dealt with him and PacificRack a few times, and this sounds nothing like him.
To be honest, this thread is not big. It looks big, because there are 3 pages of "/subscribes" which should be pruned for the sake of the rest of us, who want to read the actual dirt. Heh, I'm done.
Let's hope Alex clears his name.0
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08-03-2008, 09:15 PM #80Rockin' the beer gut
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My question is:
If this guy is so notorious, why has nobody that works at PR noticed?AS3955580
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08-03-2008, 09:17 PM #81Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 09:19 PM #82Web Hosting Master
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Agreed. You really don't need to post in a thread just to say HAY GUYZ I R SUBSCRIBED. It's a waste of space.
I never did business with Chris back in the day but I read the horror stories here on WHT. I remember a rather long thread about him too. If this is indeed the same guy then that could prove problematic for them over at PR.
Hopefully someone from PR will hop in the thread though and get the ball rolling.0
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08-03-2008, 09:38 PM #83Web Hosting Master
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Wow this got big fast!
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08-03-2008, 09:40 PM #84Web Hosting Master
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I hope bob(aussiebob) know this fast. Apparently, he just colo his servers over at PR recently..
It's page 7 and still no follow up from Alex. Look like the truth is going to be out very soon.
I hate you guys.. now, i need to subscribe to this thread too.Last edited by Mxhub; 08-03-2008 at 09:44 PM.
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08-03-2008, 09:47 PM #85
I was sent the evidence. Unsolicited. If it's authentic it could be pretty compelling. We'll have to wait to hear what the mods say.
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08-03-2008, 09:52 PM #86Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 09:57 PM #87The least among you.
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It sounds to me like what you all have is proof that someone named Chris Gotzmann signs in to access equipment in the same building (the same floor?) as PacificRack's facilities. So what does that prove? ..nothing more than Chris Gotzmann accesses equipment in the same building/same floor. Like I said, there won't be any hard evidence one way or the other. It'll be a total judgment call.
Having said that, there isn't a doubt in my mind that "AFerrier" on these forums is Chris Gotzmann. I hope the mods see it as I do. And for goodness sake, I wish people would stop saying things like "lets hope Alex clears his name". THERE IS NO ALEX.
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08-03-2008, 09:58 PM #88Web Hosting Master
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Yeah man! Where's the evidence? Heh. I mean, if you're going to reply saying - teehee, I stole the cookie from the cookie jar! - Damn, you might as well give us a piece
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08-03-2008, 10:00 PM #89antitheistic atheist
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I don't want to get into this at all, but just to clarify, there -is- hard evidence and I've seen it. It's not my place to post it, but it's not really open to interpretation.
Holy cow. This is absolutely ridiculous. Don't just reply to the thread saying, oh yeah it's true, Alex Ferrier is Chris Gotzmann, and there's proof that I've seen. If you're going to fight for either side of the argument, make a case- SHOW US the evidence.Last edited by avythe; 08-03-2008 at 10:03 PM.
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08-03-2008, 10:01 PM #90Web Hosting Master
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Holy cow. This is absolutely ridiculous. Don't just reply to the thread saying, oh yeah it's true, Alex Ferrier is Chris Gotzmann, and there's proof that I've seen. If you're going to fight for either side of the argument, make a case- SHOW US the evidence.
EDIT: Sorry for acting kind of rude in the past two replies, but I'm getting quite frustrated at people who are just polluting the thread by not really putting something in for either side, but rather just throwing out claims.0
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08-03-2008, 10:02 PM #91Web Hosting Evangelist
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08-03-2008, 10:04 PM #92Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:04 PM #93Web Hosting Master
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I have seen a few pieces of evidence; but it is not my place to provide this material.
the bit that should be evident to people posting here; not a word from pacificrack or alex on this matter A bit of hush-hush proves that they are at fault.
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08-03-2008, 10:08 PM #94Web Hosting Master
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Maybe they are preparing on how to cover this up.
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08-03-2008, 10:10 PM #95Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:13 PM #96
The "evidence" contains identifying information as to its source. That's why I'm not going to post it.
It is not a sign in sheet, or picture of one. It's a screen shot of an e-mail sent by Alex saying he is expecting a phone call for Chris and that Chris is him so whoever gets the call should forward it.
It could have been faked so as I said, if it's authentic it's pretty compelling.Aaron Wendel
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08-03-2008, 10:14 PM #97Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:14 PM #98Web Hosting Master
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What was Alex Ferrier or Chris Gotzmann if they are the same, tie up with PR?
Was he an owner or employee?
Does anyone know who the principal owners of PR are?
Those of you saying that PR is great company and you will stick with them etc..
If this turns out to be true and I am not saying it is because I have not seen the evidence, may want to consider your options because in the past this guy got praise and was considered a great guy and ran a wonderful company until he did a turn and took people for a ride.
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08-03-2008, 10:16 PM #99Web Hosting Master
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08-03-2008, 10:18 PM #100
If you've seen it and you feel they owe you an answer then that's your call. They don't owe me anything and the only reason I chimed in is because someone sent me the e-mail and I thought a description of the contents was warrented for the thread.
I have no idea if they are real or not.Aaron Wendel
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