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    Looking for a 'One stop solution'

    Hi Everyone,

    We are developing a highly secure web application, those on level on a banking application.

    I need a one stop solution to provide the following:

    -Secure Powerful Dedicated Linux Server
    -Firewall
    -Top-notch intrusion detection system
    -Pro-Active managed Admin services, focusing on the security aspect
    -Premium SSL Certificate

    Can you help me out on the following?

    1) Other than rackspace, is there any other provider of the above services?

    2) Is there anything I am missing out on in the specs? what else is needed to make the server absolutely secure? apart from obviously building a solid bullet-proof app.

    Thanks in advance.
    Arjun

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    See if these hosts can help you out

    http://www.axishost.com
    http://www.jonesolutions.com
    http://www.a2b2.com

    I could have listed some DCs but I don't think it will be a one stop shop for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arjunindia View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    We are developing a highly secure web application, those on level on a banking application.

    I need a one stop solution to provide the following:

    -Secure Powerful Dedicated Linux Server
    -Firewall
    -Top-notch intrusion detection system
    -Pro-Active managed Admin services, focusing on the security aspect
    -Premium SSL Certificate

    Can you help me out on the following?

    1) Other than rackspace, is there any other provider of the above services?

    2) Is there anything I am missing out on in the specs? what else is needed to make the server absolutely secure? apart from obviously building a solid bullet-proof app.

    Thanks in advance.
    Arjun
    Where do you want the server to be located US or UK ? Also let us know your budget for the same so that we can assist you further.

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    u could follow vinsar ideas if u are looking for one stop solution other wise place a server at the best data centres and try 3rd party managment solutions ..

    most of the companies he has advised also provide server managment options also
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    Hi,

    Thanks for your message.
    Looking to host it in US

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    He said -Secure Powerful Dedicated Linux Server in the opening post.

    BTW Arjun, I won't recommend a one stop shop for server solutions need, its better to have server/hardware from a DC directly, hire a server management company to manage & secure the server as per your needs and SSL you can get form any company among so many.

    Its like don't put all the eggs in one basket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arjunindia View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    We are developing a highly secure web application, those on level on a banking application.

    I need a one stop solution to provide the following:

    -Secure Powerful Dedicated Linux Server
    -Firewall
    -Top-notch intrusion detection system
    -Pro-Active managed Admin services, focusing on the security aspect
    -Premium SSL Certificate

    Can you help me out on the following?

    1) Other than rackspace, is there any other provider of the above services?

    2) Is there anything I am missing out on in the specs? what else is needed to make the server absolutely secure? apart from obviously building a solid bullet-proof app.

    Thanks in advance.
    Arjun
    Hey Arjun,
    I think the only other thing you would also need to consider is the DC your server is located at - i.e. with respect to the carriers and routing facilities offered.
    You can have a good server (hardware) and management, but if the box is not connected to a good back-end network (carrier), then I think you won't be serving too many hits on it.

    Secondly, you have to consider data loss mitigation - in terms of your backup / disaster recovery! With what you have in mind, I would definitely concentrate on those crucial aspects.

    Finally, I would suggest you getting a server / management analysis for your requirements to be carried out. Any good provider will do one for you which you can generally use as a "benchmark" to get quotations or plan your approach from.

    All the best.
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    I contacted all 3 of the below by email since they do not have a sale phone number on website:

    axishost
    jonesolutions
    a2b2

    Any other recommendations? I have made contact only with RackSpace so far, and they are little too pricey.

    //Arjun

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    Quote Originally Posted by arjunindia View Post
    I contacted all 3 of the below by email since they do not have a sale phone number on website:

    axishost
    jonesolutions
    a2b2

    Any other recommendations? I have made contact only with RackSpace so far, and they are little too pricey.

    //Arjun
    No sales telephone number? That is very interesting ..... !! Do they have a support telephone number?
    Something to consider if you can't get a hold of a "person" on the phone - makes all the difference if anything goes wrong, and considering the type of site / application you will be having, I think you definitely need something like that!

    Dig deepeer ...
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    RackSpace is not living up to its reputation now days, search WHT about there issues.

    Some names I can think of:

    http://www.gigenet.com
    http://www.fastservers.net
    http://www.gnax.com

    BTW Arjun if you and your server users are located in India, then its good if you get New York or Chicago based servers they are faster for us.
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    Also have a look at this thread http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=610473 quite interesting.
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    I'm based in the silicon valley, and customers are going to be global, over 1 million by 2008

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    With that many users using the service by 2008, you should make sure your host will allow you to scale your hosting platform at anytime aswell. A single server probably (most likely, won't) won't support that many users. What is your application built on?
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    Well Arjun for that many users, just as Josh mentioned above, you will need a load balanced HA cluster where servers are distributed across various DCs. And that is not going to be a budget or economy solution definitely.

    While you are searching for the server, SSL etc. I will also suggest you to get hold of a competent consultant specialising in such kind of setup.

    Do a search on loadbalance HA cluster etc here on WHT or google you will get lot of information to go with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arjunindia View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    We are developing a highly secure web application, those on level on a banking application.

    2) Is there anything I am missing out on in the specs? what else is needed to make the server absolutely secure? apart from obviously building a solid bullet-proof app.

    Thanks in advance.
    Arjun
    Am i the only one that is worried thats these two comments conflict like crazy. A 'secure web application' is only as secure as what you use to run it. So you cant make such a thing without knowing a lot about web security and from '2)' it seems that area of knowledge is very limited. I get the feeling you are out of your depth? (not trying to be nasty)

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    axishost does some wonderful managed servers for people with a budget else peer1 is too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arjunindia View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    We are developing a highly secure web application, those on level on a banking application.

    I need a one stop solution to provide the following:

    -Secure Powerful Dedicated Linux Server
    -Firewall
    -Top-notch intrusion detection system
    -Pro-Active managed Admin services, focusing on the security aspect
    -Premium SSL Certificate

    Can you help me out on the following?

    1) Other than rackspace, is there any other provider of the above services?

    2) Is there anything I am missing out on in the specs? what else is needed to make the server absolutely secure? apart from obviously building a solid bullet-proof app.

    Thanks in advance.
    Arjun
    If rackspace is too expensive, then you need to re-think this whole one-stop shop requirement.

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    Why not try going to platinumservermanagement.com? They are fantastic!! Do you have a control panel??

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    Your best bet is to host at a well staffed data center with a high performance network. Many hosting companies provide a baseline box with mild security, but for many customers that is not enough. I would definitely recommend a server management company to come in and secure the box to a higher degree.
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    Colocation with a private rack, owned hardware, and hiring your own management and security staff is the only way I'd embark on something involving "1 million+" users and "banking like application". In fact, you might even want to do background checks on your staff.

    Leaving all of that data in the hands of a dedicated server provider, is just, scary.
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