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04-08-2012, 06:38 AM #1WHT Addict
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Need Advice
Hello all. I need some advice from you guys. I'm thinking of a starting a new hosting company, providing cPanel based CLOUD hosting to users. I want to know how many of you might be interested in such a host. What I'm going to do is is on a very stable cloud, install cPanel and other addons and provide managed 'shared-like' cloud hosting to customers. It's actually a great offer and I can provide 99.999% to 100% uptime SLAs.
All I want to know is whether people would like to buy this kind of a service. Speed and uptime sure is guaranteed. I would like to know what my target market would be. Would I be getting more advanced customers from a business background, or some newbie's wanting to host a new blog or personal website? If you were interested in the offer, what kind of a plan would you like? Amount of webspace, bandwidth?
The main aim of this company is to simplify the way we use the cloud, make complete use of the great cloud infrastructure we have. We simplify the process by installing web panels (cPanel), addons, and all other technical requirements and take complete care of the server. We will also provide full support to each and every customer.
Before starting to expand, I was willing to find some 'Pre-Sales', allowing me to expand easier.
The main question here lies, what does the web hosting market look for in a host?
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04-08-2012, 07:34 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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a)Uptime
b) Stability
c)Support
d) Speed
e) Price
f) Addons
These were the things I was looking for as a client
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04-08-2012, 07:39 AM #3WHT Addict
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Thanks . How much would you be willing to pay as a client for such a service on average? (Please be realistic);P
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04-08-2012, 07:44 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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04-08-2012, 07:49 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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04-08-2012, 10:48 AM #6WHT Addict
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It costs alot to create and manage cloud servers, addons, cPanel licences, bandwidth, etc. It's gonna be solid low-cost pricing, but not too low either. It's probably gonna cost only $7 - $10 for the hosting per month + bandwidth usage. I will bundle some free bandwidth though.
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04-08-2012, 10:52 AM #7Junior Guru Wannabe
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When you talk about offering Cloud web hosting services to your clients, it is something that provides reliability to you.
For cloud, YOU WOULD be the one paying for the usage for every hour. Clients wouldn't really care much as they would be paying you a fixed amount every month. I would advise you to ensure you do have the budget, because you would have clients spiking up CPU a lot of times and that might get you an un-expected invoice from your provider.
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04-08-2012, 11:00 AM #8WHT Addict
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I did a lot of research on my provider. I'm confident about it too. The clients don't have to worry how much they pay. I'm think of providing them the option of buying bandwidth in blocks, or pay as you go. I might even bundle a few gigs for free with the usual fee. So basically, it's fixed.
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04-08-2012, 11:06 AM #9Web Host Reviewer
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SpeedySparrow already offers this, as do others.
It's hard to demand a higher price for shared cloud hosting services, because so few people really understand what that means or how it's going to benefit them. (I'd say many don't even care.)|| Need a good host?
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04-08-2012, 11:07 AM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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04-08-2012, 11:18 AM #11WHT Addict
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True. I need to explain to them and lay it all down their on my homepage. It needs to be in a manner presentable, something interesting that their mind will force them to read.
People who really want to host their site will understand the benefits of the cloud. ESPECIALLY the ones who have experienced the flaws of normal shared hosting.
They should expect no overselling from my side at all actually. I'll be monitoring everything myself.
All I want to do is provide some serious hosting to people who really want it. People who have gone through the downtimes, the frustrations of shared hosting, will understand how much the cloud can do for them.
I'm trying to charge as low as possible, enough to cover up my expenses, future expenses, and profits.
My aim with this company is to provide BETTER hosting, at near same costs of normal shared hosting. When someone compares two hosts with the same price, one being shared hosting and other being on the cloud, most due to human psychology, will go for the better cloud.
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04-08-2012, 12:05 PM #12WHT Addict
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SpeedySparrow is exactly my intention.
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04-08-2012, 04:11 PM #13Web Host Reviewer
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People who really want to host their site will understand the benefits of the cloud. ESPECIALLY the ones who have experienced the flaws of normal shared hosting.
The most common flaws of shared hosting is:
- idiot-grade support,
- monkeys with keyboards acting as server admins,
- hosts buying cheap hardware instead of good hardware, and
- hosts promising unrealistic unlimited resources.
... but none of those things are flaws of traditional shared hosting.
I understand the benefit of cloud hosting on a larger scale, but it seems wasted on small sites. The same goes for CDNs. It just adds a layer of potential problems. "Cloud is better" doesn't work on experienced site owners, and it means less than nothing to novices.|| Need a good host?
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04-08-2012, 09:07 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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People who really want to host their site will understand the benefits of the cloud. ESPECIALLY the ones who have experienced the flaws of normal shared hosting.
Between traditional and cloud both ends are on the firing line to downtime no matter the case, each has it's own flaws and Kpmedia has outlined it quite well actually.
Cloud is really good in theory but whether or not it's the most viable option is another question (if run by monkeys that is).
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04-08-2012, 09:59 PM #15WHT Addict
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All I expect from the cloud is speed and uptime. Pretty sure getting from one of the best cloud providers could give me that. Failover protection, another great thing. The 'flaws' are the ones I've experienced with 'some' shared hosts, not all.
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04-08-2012, 10:06 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Cloud Technology isn't immune to downtime, the same applies to traditional web hosting services that operate your standard shared and reseller hosting accounts.
We aim to keep all services operational as best we can and by keeping our systems under correct Hyper-Visors to where customers would see benefits in speed and reliability, sadly though network problems can and do occur so do be aware that Cloud can suffer downtime just the same as any service you order.
I suppose the best new thing to come of Cloud Technology is OnApp's vSAN it's very interesting and should hit a spot to improvements over your standard SAN's.██ l Dedigeeks • Shared • Wordpress • Dedicated • Established 2006
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04-08-2012, 10:48 PM #17Web Host Reviewer
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04-08-2012, 11:02 PM #18Cloud Engineer
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The market that requires cloud reliability and uptime are generally not interested in any type of shared hosting model.
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04-08-2012, 11:07 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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Our whole cloud is based around Shared Hosting
Not to mention VPS as well but the cloud abstract is simple, sure it's not the most perfect model out there but it's a model that is advancing quite erratically.
Good job, Speedy Sparrow (and Sean).██ l Dedigeeks • Shared • Wordpress • Dedicated • Established 2006
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04-09-2012, 05:40 AM #20WHT Addict
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I understand you all. I never said I wanted 100% uptime. Difficulties may occur and downtimes are possible, even with cloud computing. All I wanted to do is REDUCE downtime to as much as possible.
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04-09-2012, 07:32 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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^ All I can really suggest here is don't undergo your expectations. If you want a $5.00 VPS go for a budget one with a (probable) reputable provider, not that there is that many around for $5.00.
For a decent VPS you should expect to pay $30.00 + per month and probably $40.00 + per month on a reliable Cloud VPS, honestly they are not cheap but will reduce your worries about downtime.
Chances are you will face it now and then but I could recommend a non cloud provider (Servint), had our site with them for more than a year now and must say we are pleased with the overall performance.██ l Dedigeeks • Shared • Wordpress • Dedicated • Established 2006
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04-10-2012, 05:30 AM #22WHT Addict
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Price is not a problem. And no I'm not going for $10 stuff at all.
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