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    1Gbit vs 100Mbit

    I just want to see everyone's opinion on 1Gbit and 100Mbit shared webhosting.

    Why do big companys not use 1Gbit, for example HostGator.

    From what ive seen, 1Gbit makes everything run soo much smoother. FTP is ownage with 1Gbit

    Whats your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VuzeHosting View Post
    I just want to see everyone's opinion on 1Gbit and 100Mbit shared webhosting.

    Why do big companys not use 1Gbit, for example HostGator.

    From what ive seen, 1Gbit makes everything run soo much smoother. FTP is ownage with 1Gbit

    Whats your thoughts?
    Generally web servers are going to use an average of 2~3 megabit/second with peaks up to 20~30 at times. Only once in the last two years have we had to up any servers to Gigabit and that was because one of our clients released a new book and had an audio download of the first chapter on his site. He was pulling a solid 150 megabit/second for about 2 days.

    Beyond that one incident, there's been no need or reason to go gigabit although it's there if we need it at a moments notice as it's simply a setting at the switch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    Generally web servers are going to use an average of 2~3 megabit/second with peaks up to 20~30 at times. Only once in the last two years have we had to up any servers to Gigabit and that was because one of our clients released a new book and had an audio download of the first chapter on his site. He was pulling a solid 150 megabit/second for about 2 days.

    Beyond that one incident, there's been no need or reason to go gigabit although it's there if we need it at a moments notice as it's simply a setting at the switch.
    So the main reason is bandwith issues?

    Why don't companys offer the best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VuzeHosting View Post
    So the main reason is bandwith issues?

    Why don't companys offer the best?
    There's literally no difference between 10 megabit, 100 megabit, and 1000 megabit when the server is only using 1~3megabit at any given time.

    With spikes up to 20~30 100megabit is a good idea but 1000 megabit would go grossly unused.

    You can think of it as the port speed being the speed limit... it doesn't matter if the speed limit is 5,000 miles per hour if your car can only do 80 miles per hour.
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    Yeah, you have to view port speed as network capacity rather than difference in speed. Having a higher port speed will allow to handle xx amount of users at xx Mbps each.
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    Vuze,

    you say 1Gbit is better
    is that your dedicated server port?
    as Micahel was saying if you are using 30Mb/Sec but is the point of a gig-e

    but how much bandwidth is shared in the 1Gb connection -- are there 500 servers on the back end? - there is more to it then just server port 100Mb or Gig-E
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    There's literally no difference between 10 megabit, 100 megabit, and 1000 megabit when the server is only using 1~3megabit at any given time.

    With spikes up to 20~30 100megabit is a good idea but 1000 megabit would go grossly unused.

    You can think of it as the port speed being the speed limit... it doesn't matter if the speed limit is 5,000 miles per hour if your car can only do 80 miles per hour.
    I agree, it would be really a little waste of money in short term. Besides, if you’re not in the same Country, it’s going to take a while to load the file as you have conversions, accelerators and firewalls.

    But if you still struggle still to see why not to bother upgrading, try to put it into a smaller scale such as at home. You can spend £10 on a Ethernet cable, and get around a 5/10MB Per Second connection on the built-in port. Or spend £70+ on optic cable and another £50/£60 on a converter. You’ll get around 110MB Per/Sec, but you’ll be £120 less.

    Yes, its quite awsome to have really fast speeds, but if your only getting a transfer of about 10GB to 100GB a month, not much point.

    Same principle, but on a smaller scale
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    100 Mb on a 20 account server Vs 1Gb on 20 000 accounts is better.
    The resources are one thing, the usage another.
    The best would be 1Gb on low crowed servers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ubservers View Post
    100 Mb on a 20 account server Vs 1Gb on 20 000 accounts is better.
    The resources are one thing, the usage another.
    The best would be 1Gb on low crowed servers
    The port speed has nothing to do with the number of accounts and I am not aware of any hosts whose servers are limited by port speed. Ram/CPU/Disk tend to be the limiting factors.
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    The other thing to keep in mind is that a lot of companies do use 1Gb ports on all of their servers, but that does not mean they have 1Gb of connectively to the Internet. For example, each of our blade servers have dual 1Gbps ethernet ports and a 20Gbps InfiniBand port. That does not mean sites that we host could actually pump data at those rates. Most of that bandwdith is used internally for connecting to SAN systems, backup systems, and handling live migration functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSupportLinuxHostin View Post
    The other thing to keep in mind is that a lot of companies do use 1Gb ports on all of their servers, but that does not mean they have 1Gb of connectively to the Internet. For example, each of our blade servers have dual 1Gbps ethernet ports and a 20Gbps InfiniBand port. That does not mean sites that we host could actually pump data at those rates. Most of that bandwdith is used internally for connecting to SAN systems, backup systems, and handling live migration functions.
    Another good point as well - all of our private networking is 1Gb+ where as our public networking is all 100megabit unless there is a need for 1Gb which we can change on the fly.

    I really wouldn't buy a plan based upon the port speed unless I was looking at a VPS or Dedicated server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDVB View Post
    The port speed has nothing to do with the number of accounts and I am not aware of any hosts whose servers are limited by port speed. Ram/CPU/Disk tend to be the limiting factors.
    I did not meant that the port speed has something to do with the number of accounts, what I meant is that a port speed doesn't say if the server will be fast or not! If I run a dedicated served with a 100Mb port, it'll probably be faster for my website than a shared hosting with 1000 accounts on a 1Gb port
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    1gbps is essential if you run VPSes on a dedicated server. Think about you have 30 VMs on a node, you'll need 1gbps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaramon View Post
    1gbps is essential if you run VPSes on a dedicated server. Think about you have 30 VMs on a node, you'll need 1gbps.
    Server with 29 Virtual Private Servers hasn't gone over 20 MBPS in the last 30 days...
    http://www.screen-shot.net/2010-04-26_2332.png

    IMHO in most cases gigabit is a waste but sometimes not - anybody in the industry for a while with some experience wouldn't make such blanket statements. Depending on what type of VPSs they are, what type of clients, and the actual demand 100 megabit may be more than enough.

    Especially when you can go from 100megabit to 1000megabit and back again at a moment's notice.
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    I don't think most people understand that 10mbit is capable of transferring 3 TB per month and 100mbit at 33TB per month, give or take for overhead and TCP. 1000Mbit could be useful if your doing burst of large data every few minutes but 1000 Mbit sustained is an extremely large amount of bandwidth.

    @Mike, do you limit each VPS nodes bandwidth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visbits View Post
    @Mike, do you limit each VPS nodes bandwidth?
    No limits, no - they can use up to the burst of 100 megabit if needed and if anybody maxes out the connection we switch the server to gigabit until the load subsides.
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