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10-25-2009, 05:44 AM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Where Can I get C Class IP's for opening a C Class IP hosting Company.
Hi
I just want to know where can i get some C Class IP's?
I want to open a "C Class IP hosting service" with a dedicated server and some C Class IP's. But I can find the way to find C Class IP's. Where from i get it? I was contact with some DC but they just able to give 2 or max 5 C Class IP's. But i need minimum 100 Different Class C IP's.
Anybody have any idea?
Really appreciate.
Thanks
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10-25-2009, 10:04 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Do you have any idea the ramification of under utilizing 100X /24s (Class C)
This is why ARIN is becoming more and more protective in regards to ipV4 allocations.
I would recommend to go another route. Look for a host that offers ipV6 ips and you will have your Ips.Biznesshosting, Inc. DBA VOLICO - Intelligent Hosting Solutions
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10-25-2009, 10:37 AM #3Web Hosting Guru
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Most of the DCs would like to get the complete information of the usage of each IP address. Be ready to provide that.
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10-25-2009, 11:24 AM #4Temporarily Suspended
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Most provider can help you out with this, but you will be required to sign an ARIN IP Justification form
Hope this helps.
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10-25-2009, 02:00 PM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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As said above, it is a bit difficult to acquire the C-Class IP addresses. You may look for a reseller to start the business faster.
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10-25-2009, 02:06 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Hate to say it... But, impossible
Look for another venture if you wish to get into the hosting industry. "SEO" is not valid means of justification under ARIN regulations.█ Daniel | Server Complete, LLC
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10-25-2009, 02:35 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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I imagine how most of these providers doing SEO hosting do it is because they already have a lot of IP ranges. So they may have a few IP's on hundreds of ranges already. So this allows them to start up doing this as they're just making use of the spare IP's they have on their ranges already.
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10-26-2009, 05:33 AM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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As I know in some (or maybe all) Germany data centres there is C class Ip's
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10-27-2009, 08:43 AM #9Newbie
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wouldnt you still need to justify them though no matter what datacentre it is in, its not the dc that has the problem, its ARIN.
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10-27-2009, 09:05 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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per Arin and the BGP community, the minimum prefix that can be announced to the world is a /24... However, this does not constitute that every client will get a private class C.... This would have diminished the ipV4 allocation range within 1year or less.
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10-30-2009, 10:31 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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Hi,
Do a search on Google for "SEO-Hosting" or "Multiple C-Class IP Hosting" there are few hosts that offer dedicated servers with C-Class IP's if I recall correctly.[DC'S] SINGAPORE. AUSTRALIA. JAPAN. INDIA. CHINA HK. USA. UK. NETHERLANDS. SOUTH AFRICA
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10-30-2009, 10:40 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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I love the username, in conjunction with the totally ignorant comment.
Find me a dedicated server provider, who is going to give a (single server) customer access to IP space over 100 x /24's (or better yet, 100 x /24's (almost an entire /17).
Also, the acronym "CIDR" should be looked up by a LOT of people posting this gibberish, it's very applicable to what you're discussing.Myles Loosley-Millman - admin@prioritycolo.com
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10-30-2009, 11:07 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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10-30-2009, 11:23 AM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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The term "class C" is more or less irrelevant these days with, as porcupine mentioned, the widespread use of CIDR. Unless you want addresses actually in the "class C" space of 192.0.1.1 to 223.255.254.254, which doesn't really matter to be honest.
But for clarification, do you mean you want 100 blocks, or 100 addresses? You can get 100 addresses from many larger dedicated server providers and directly from a datacenter... I know as long as I get proper justification, I can provide that many to a client, since just like ARIN, the upstream providers don't care as long as you provide justification (basically a promise not to waste the space). But if by "class C" you mean a /24 (which is 254 addresses), and you want 100 x /24 (25,400 addresses) then I can tell you now that most that can even fulfill such a request will deny it unless you actually have thousands of servers already up and running that need new addresses.
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10-30-2009, 02:48 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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I ranted on this very subject the other day - saying something to the tune of "Class C" is to /24 as Unicorn is to Horse. "Unicorn" is probably more specific than you intended (no one says they're going to take a couple hundred bucks and spend the day at the unicorn races) and both Unicorns and "Class C" ranges don't exist today.
To muddy up what people mean even more, usually when someone says they want "100 Class C IPs", it usually means they want 100 IPs, each in a different /24.I used to run the oldest commercial Mumble host.
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10-30-2009, 03:11 PM #16CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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11-14-2009, 11:00 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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11-14-2009, 11:24 PM #18Junior Guru
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I love how you bash the guy without actually having read what the OP said properly.
He clearly states that he needs a minimum of 100 different "Class C IP's" (obv. meaning 100 IP addresses) - not 100 /24 subnets. There's a fairly significant difference there.
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11-14-2009, 11:34 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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I know when I talk about a IP address, I use terms which are not relevant by todays terms (again, lookup CIDR).
Having said that, when do people refer to a IP address, specifically as a "Class C IP address", unless they're relating it to a /24. It's obvious the OP was looking for IP's over 100 x /24's based on his original post.Myles Loosley-Millman - admin@prioritycolo.com
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11-15-2009, 12:25 AM #20Junior Guru
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What's obvious from the OP's post is that he wants 100 IP addresses, regardless of his interpretation of what "Class C" means. He says "But i need minimum 100 Different (...) IP's" - and reading that as wanting over 25k addresses, just because he threw the term "Class C" into the mix, is pretty far fetched. Especially put in context with what he'd like to use them for.
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11-15-2009, 12:33 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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11-15-2009, 12:53 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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Porcupine, yes your right... and anyone with a clue knows it and just avoids the thread anways.
The OP is never going to accomplish what they are interested in, especially considering they are unable to even describe their needs accurately. That, and it's a stupid service, for stupid clients.
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11-15-2009, 01:00 AM #23Junior Guru
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No, your interpetation of what the OP puts in the term "C Class IP hosting service" assumes that. It is a commonly misunderstood term, and until we have clarification on what the OP means; you do not have a basis to say that he wants IP addresses from 100 different /24's, let alone mock someone's nickname and call them ignorant for interpreting it differently.
He wrote "i need minimum 100 Different 'Class C' IP's", he did *not* actually write "i need minimum 100 IP's across different /24 subnets.", so I do not see any reason to why you should interpret it in that direction at this point.
Anyway; this is not exactly helping the OP, so I suggest we leave it alone. Just be a little careful before you post to make fun of others please. All in all it's better to just keep that kind of stuff to yourself, as it does not do any good for anyone.
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11-15-2009, 01:07 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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The rest of the WHT readership reached the same consensus as I did, because it was clear to pretty much everyone else, what the OP was looking for.
If you're feeling overly sensitive, go elsewhere, and grow up. If you can't deal with an adult conversation, on a public forum specifically geared towards adults, then you probably shouldn't be here. This is a business oriented forum last I checked, and people will call scenario's as they see 'em, nice or not. Sugar coating is available in the candy & cookie aisle.Myles Loosley-Millman - admin@prioritycolo.com
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11-15-2009, 01:13 AM #25Junior Guru
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I see, when you run out of arguments you turn to abuse instead. Clever, and very adult.
Last time I checked; only a very small part of the WHT readership has commented on this thread, and most of them probably based their comments on the first reply to the OP or reading too much into it like you are doing. This does not mean you are right, and it does not give you the right to be a dick towards other members of this forum.Last edited by Shoel; 11-15-2009 at 01:18 AM. Reason: Typo
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