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10-30-2006, 08:48 AM #26Invented the Internet
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We bought a house about a year ago that was built in 1964. One of the very first things I did was to install GFIs in all of the bathrooms and by the kitchen sink. Sure, the chances of someone getting killed without the GFI being installed is slim - but adding the GFIs just dropped that chance down to zero.
Also, as someone else mentioned, you could very well save someone else's life who moves into that house later on. Imagine a 5 year old, thinking it would be really cool to see what happens when he uses mommy's hair dryer under water in the bathtub. For $20, you could save that kid's life.
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10-30-2006, 08:59 AM #27Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by AH-Tina
Tina,
Same situation here. My wife and I just bought a house 6 weeks ago that was built 35 years ago and they gutted it and redid everything except they didn't follow electrical code in the breaker box and with the GFI's in the bathroom, kitchen and outside.
On a side note, all outside outlets are suppose to be GFI as-well.
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10-30-2006, 09:46 AM #28Originally Posted by Nich
Making ignorant claims of the "model" $6 an hour Home Depot employee is rediculous. To give HD credit, some individuals at my locale that I've met have given me some invaluable information/tips/and help.
I stand by my earlier comments.
Oh, and for the record, they are actually GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter), not GFI, though either term is often used.
More: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/99.html
[edit= Found a better source]
http://www.cdc.gov/eLCOSH/docs/d0500...ction7.html#41Last edited by bear; 10-30-2006 at 09:58 AM.
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10-30-2006, 10:30 AM #29Web Hosting Master
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bear is definitely correct.
Knowing what Isle yard rakes are on doesn't make anyone qualified for advice.Show your reciprocal links on your website. eReferrer
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10-30-2006, 11:01 AM #30Invented the Internet
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Originally Posted by eMax
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10-30-2006, 06:10 PM #31Web Hosting Master
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08-25-2014, 11:22 PM #32New Member
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I need help with electrical wiring
I am new to this forum, and I figured I would just ask my question in this thread instead of creating a new one. I just bought my house and it was build in 1946. The house does have some renovations and in those rooms the electric outlets have been updated to 3 prong and (it passed inspection) seem to be properly grounded. The other half of the house is still equipped with 2 prong outlets, and I would like to update them to the 3 prong. I do believe the junction box is grounded in the wall, but there were only 4 wires coming out (2 white and 2 black). I used a multi meter to test the black wire and the junction box and got a 120v reading. So I am assuming the box is grounded. The 4 wires were wire nutted together with a pigtail to the original outlet. These wires are really short and makes it hard to work with to attach to the new outlet, and they are insulated with a fabric, instead of plastic.
Am I properly grounded?
Should I pigtail them again and hook up the new outlet?
Do I use all 4 wires?
Should I use a GFCI?
How can I lengthen the wires?
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08-27-2014, 10:23 AM #33is a threadkiller
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I'm assuming you are in the United States...
Am I properly grounded?
Odds are high, no.
Should I pigtail them again and hook up the new outlet?
Depends. Continue reading. But do not reinstall a 3 prong outlet.
Do I use all 4 wires?
YES!
Should I use a GFCI?
You can. GFCI is an acceptable way of installing a 3 prong plug on an ungrounded system. It wont magically give you a 'ground' connection, but it will prevent shocks if your equipment decides to leak to ground. You must also use the "No equipment ground", and "GFCI Protected" stickers that come with the GFI. This is acceptable under the NFPA NEC 2011 edition Section 406.4(C).
How can I lengthen the wires?
Pigtail them. If the wire is aluminum, you can pigtail with copper as long as you use alum-cons or specialized purple wire nuts (neither are cheap). You can pigtail with aluminum wire, but you MUST ensure the device is AL rated (most are not).Don't like what I say? Ignore me.
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08-27-2014, 11:16 AM #34Web Hosting Master
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This is so depressing. I was only 26 years old when I started this thread... now I'm almost 40 soon with wrinkles to prove it!
Oh what I would do to be 26 again. Someone... please stop the time... it is flying by too bloody fast!!!
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08-27-2014, 01:35 PM #35Web Hosting Evangelist
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxmW...ature=youtu.be --- changing to a GFI outlet
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