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11-21-2013, 02:33 PM #1Web Hosting Guru
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Boeing jumbo jet plane lands at wrong airport
A massive Boeing 747 Dreamlifter cargo plane landed at the wrong airport late Wednesday.
Pilot did a very big oops??
http://news.yahoo.com/dreamlifter-ca...135024064.htmlRespectfully,
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11-21-2013, 05:42 PM #2Newbie
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Lol, how did the pilot manage that? I guess since the airports were only 10 miles apart, it may not look like a far distance from the air. Still though, pretty funny.
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11-22-2013, 02:55 PM #3Web Hosting Evangelist
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...and it takes off again http://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/jumbo...075003193.html
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11-22-2013, 05:40 PM #4Web Hosting Guru
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But who allowed him to land in the wrong airport?
Failure is success if we learn from it.
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11-22-2013, 05:44 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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Pissed up i bet
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11-23-2013, 04:43 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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That's too crazy.. Good thing nothing happen and no other airplanes were landing in the landing area
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11-23-2013, 07:03 AM #7Disabled
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No one apparently. They have simply mistaken the runway, probably flying visually. In the first airport it says that the airport has no control tower. So as they were flying towards a military base which probably also has no tower, they saw the piece of runway and just landed on it.
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11-23-2013, 02:06 PM #8Web Hosting Guru
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11-23-2013, 03:20 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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11-24-2013, 12:31 AM #10working on it
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Air Force transport plane makes the same mistake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi58Ds3Krgw
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11-24-2013, 09:41 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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G: Giant 4241 heavy, the 747 Dreamlifter
M: Mc Connell Tower, multiple voices, not sure which is which.
G: Good evening Mc Connell Tower, Giant 4241 heavy is on the bit.. arr... GPS... RNAV GPS approach 19 left
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Mc Connell Tower, wheels down runway 19 left, wind 140 at 4, cleared to land
G: Clear to land runway 19 left, wheels down, Giant 4241 heavy
M: Giant 4241 heavy [...] down
G: Giant 4241, go ahead
M: Giant 4241, [...] down and expect mid field turnoff at the double
G: Giant 1440... 4241 we'll get back to here you momentarily, we're not on the approach
M: Giant 4241 heavy, [the final?] is 9 miles south of you
G: [...] we just landed at the other airport [...], Giant 4241
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Mc Connell, talk
G: Ah yes sir, we got a... Uh, apparently we've landed at B E C
M: Giant 4241 heavy verify, you're on the ground at BEC airport
G: We think so
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Mc Connell Tower, verify you are full stopped and landing stopped at BEC airport?
G: Affirmative
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Mc Connell Tower, are you able to make an approach, departure from that airport
direct to Mc Connell
G: Tower we're working on those details
M: Roger
G: And Mc Connell Tower, Giant 4241 heavy
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Mc Connell Tower
G: Yes sir, do you have a quick... is there a tower frequency here? For Beech?
M: Giant 4241 heavy, Beech tower is actually closed at this time
G: Okay. Is there a Unicom frequency?
M: Giant 4241 heavy, stand by
G: And one more thing, do you have the coordinates for this, for the airport?
M: Giant 4241 heavy, stand by on that
M: Giant 4241 heavy, I have the coordinates, when ready to copy
G: Tower ready, go ahead
M: Beech is Kilo Bravo Echo Charlie, North 3 7 degrees 41 point 6 4, West 97 degrees 1 2 point 9 0
G: Okay, lemme read those back. North 3 7 4 1 6 4?
M: Affirmative
G: Okay, then East 9 2 1 2 9 uh zero?
M: West, 9 7 degrees 1 2 point 9 0
G: Sorry about that, can't read my own handwriting, West 9 2 1 2 decimal 9 0
M: West 9 7 1 2 deck 9 0
G: Okay, 9 7 1 2 decimal 9 0
G: All right, here's the coordinates we're showing currently for us: North 3 7 4 4 decimal 4, West 0 9 7 1 3
decimal 3
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger
M: Giant 4241 heavy, did you do a circle around the airport and then land, or did you make it straight in?
G: Straight in, sir
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger
M: Giant 4241 heavy, can you say your (???)
M: Giant 4241 heavy, from the target we saw on the radar scope, you were overshot, the target was
overshot at (???) airport, approximately 8 miles nort of Mc Connell airport, Unicom frequency is 1 2 3 point
7, say again 1 2 3 point 7
G: All right, this gentleman is giving us a frequency, we're going to try it out, 1 2 3 point 7 as well
G: Mc Connell tower, Giant 4241
M: Giant 4241 heavy, in contact
G: Yes sir, we're in contact with the company right now, we'll analyze our performance status
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger
M: Giant 4241 heavy, affirm you know at which airport you are
G: Well we think we have a pretty good code, let me ask you this, how many airports directly to the
south of 19, uh 019 are there?
M: Giant 4241 heavy, you're currently north of Mc Connell, and three along the glidepath
G: (Background: Sorry man go ahead, something else.) We are showing about six miles north of you
M: Copy, six miles north
M: Giant 4241 heavy, affirmative, right now we just try to figure that
G: Okay sir
G: Tower, we just had a twin engine aircraft, turboprop aircraft go over the top of us
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger, it appears you are (???)
G: Say again
M: Giant 4241 heavy, we saw the plane on the radar and it appears you are at Jabara airport
G: Say the name again
M: Jabara
G: Jabarrow?
M: Giant 4241 heavy, that's J A A R R A
G: Okay, all right, copy that
G: Okay we also show we are just short, about a mile short of Warren(?) now
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger, yes, that's Jabara
G: And Mc Connell Tower, Giant 4241
M: Giant 4241 heavy, contact
G: Yes sir, looks like we do confirm it is Jabara
M: Giant 4241 heavy, roger
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11-24-2013, 09:51 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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A 10 mile final with airports along the way having similar paths can definitely understand the issue here, though there is something weirds as to why the ATCs did not notice this and prevent it. Also that aircraft can auto land, and should have been quite obvious that they were final at a different airport.
I suspect they were already navigationally keyed to the wrong airport long prior which is why there was no warning.
This is something understandable in VFR conditions not IFR. Likely going to be clear cut pilot error.█ hostingcove.com | Tennessee Based Hosting Provider.
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11-24-2013, 11:38 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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There were three airports along that flight path. I want to know whether the two runways lined up straight.
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11-29-2013, 10:27 AM #14Junior Guru
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That is quite funny!
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04-11-2014, 03:39 PM #15Temporarily Suspended
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Very funny. Who allowed him to land there? Really very shocking that a pilot lands with mistake and no one interfere with him in this matter.
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It happens quite a lot at night if they don't load GPS coordinates in.
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I thought it was standard procedure these days to set auto-pilot (at least in modern jets like that 747 Dreamliner!) to the Airport you want to land at, with it setting the path from outer markers and then is manually landed over the last couple of miles with the runway insight?
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04-12-2014, 01:26 PM #18Web Hosting Guru
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04-12-2014, 01:26 PM #19Owner of the net for a day
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No, it is not standard procedure, nor is it good, because it makes the pilot less sharp should they be needed in emergency. when you don't use the piloting skills, it makes the senses dull. One could even say that maybe the landing at the wrong airport happened due to autopilot dulling over time. What is standard is filing a flight plan and a couple other things, but setting Auto pilot is not one of them. Auto pilot systems are aids to help the pilot, not a replacement for the pilot.
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04-12-2014, 01:33 PM #20Web Hosting Guru
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04-12-2014, 03:21 PM #21Owner of the net for a day
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It happens multiple times every year, it is not some unknown thing.
http://www.insidesocal.com/aviation/...u-might-think/
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04-12-2014, 03:30 PM #22Web Hosting Guru
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Could've been pretty ugly but lucky it wasn't.
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04-13-2014, 12:35 PM #25Aspiring Evangelist
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There is no such thing as "autopilot dulling."
Maximum use of the autopilot is standard throughout the industry for flight operations on high performance of aircraft. Pilots periodically hand-fly but at that level, particularly for those with many years of experience, flying is like riding a bicycle or driving a stick shift in the sense that you operate by muscle memory and experience.
Mistakes happen, but it is certainly not due to use or non-use of the autopilot. BTW, pilots at that level (commercial pilots that fly jets requiring type ratings) receive simulator training and proficiency checks on IRF procedures and emergency procedures every six months to a year depending on the type of flight operation.
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