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02-05-2014, 05:06 PM #1Aspiring Evangelist
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Beware Wholesale Internet trying to steal customers
I wanted to warn the WHT community. Recently WholeSale Internet registered joedatacenter.com a variation of my domain joesdatacenter.com and has it re-direct to their website wholesaleinternet.net. We are in no way affiliated with them. I can only assume they have done this to confuse potential buyers or steal customers trying to purchase from Joe's Datacenter. This is not only bad business practice but also possibly illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticyb...Protection_Act
If anyone has purchased from WholeSale Internet by mistake thinking they were contacting us please let us know as it may help with legal action.
WHOIS information for joedatacenter.com:***
[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.enom.com]
[Querying whois.enom.com]
[whois.enom.com]
Domain Name: JOEDATACENTER.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1842856822_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Creation Date: 2014-01-14 20:35:36Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-01-14 20:35:36Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: AARON WENDEL
Registrant Organization: WHOLESALE INTERNET, INC
Registrant Street: 324 E. 11TH ST.
Registrant Street: SUITE 1000
Registrant City: KANSAS CITY
Registrant State/Province: MO
Registrant Postal Code: 64106
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8162563031
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.3144315202
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: AARON@WHOLESALEINTERNET.NET
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: AARON WENDEL
Admin Organization: WHOLESALE INTERNET, INC
Admin Street: 324 E. 11TH ST.
Admin Street: SUITE 1000
Admin City: KANSAS CITY
Admin State/Province: MO
Admin Postal Code: 64106
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.8162563031
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.3144315202
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: AARON@WHOLESALEINTERNET.NET
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: AARON WENDEL
Tech Organization: WHOLESALE INTERNET, INC
Tech Street: 324 E. 11TH ST.
Tech Street: SUITE 1000
Tech City: KANSAS CITY
Tech State/Province: MO
Tech Postal Code: 64106
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.8162563031
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.3144315202
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: AARON@WHOLESALEINTERNET.NET
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNSSEC: unSignedJoe Morgan @ Joe’s Datacenter, LLC- www.joesdatacenter.com
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02-05-2014, 05:14 PM #2Web Hosting Guru
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Cheers for the information, anyone from wholesale on the forums to talk about this? Also very sneaky of them if this is the case!
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02-05-2014, 05:18 PM #3Aspiring Evangelist
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Thanks you might check out this as well
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1346466
as well it seems Datashack did the same thing some time back which is not surprising seeing as Aaron Wendel is an owner of both companies.Joe Morgan @ Joe’s Datacenter, LLC- www.joesdatacenter.com
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02-05-2014, 05:28 PM #4virtualizing the world
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Good luck Joe!
Hopefully things will work out and WII and DS will release those domains, or at least stop redirecting it to their sites.
Edit: Looks like the redirect moved to ripoffreport.comLast edited by VN-Ken; 02-05-2014 at 05:34 PM.
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02-05-2014, 05:41 PM #5Aspiring Evangelist
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02-05-2014, 05:44 PM #6Corporate Member
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Lol the domain now redirects to ripoffreport!
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/joes-d...rs-and-1038569
edit: whoops had the thread open too long before posting.
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02-05-2014, 05:52 PM #7Aspiring Evangelist
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Datashack did the same thing with http://joesdatacentre.com
WHOIS information for joesdatacentre.com:***
[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.enom.com]
[Querying whois.enom.com]
[whois.enom.com]
Domain Name: JOESDATACENTRE.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1628874637_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Creation Date: 2010-12-05 19:35:17Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-12-05 18:35:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@enom.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500
Domain Status: ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: BROOKS BROWN
Registrant Organization: DATASHACK, LC
Registrant Street: 201 EAST 16TH AVE.
Registrant City: NORTH KANSAS CITY
Registrant State/Province: MO
Registrant Postal Code: 64114
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8165551212
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.8165551212
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: BROOKS@DATASHACK.NET
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: BROOKS BROWN
Admin Organization: DATASHACK, LC
Admin Street: 201 EAST 16TH AVE.
Admin City: NORTH KANSAS CITY
Admin State/Province: MO
Admin Postal Code: 64114
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.8165551212
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.8165551212
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: BROOKS@DATASHACK.NET
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: BROOKS BROWN
Tech Organization: DATASHACK, LC
Tech Street: 201 EAST 16TH AVE.
Tech City: NORTH KANSAS CITY
Tech State/Province: MO
Tech Postal Code: 64114
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.8165551212
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.8165551212
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: BROOKS@DATASHACK.NET
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNSSEC: unSignedJoe Morgan @ Joe’s Datacenter, LLC- www.joesdatacenter.com
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02-05-2014, 05:59 PM #8WHT Addict
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I guess they're simply jealous of your business. Trying anything they can to take you down.
Is the name trademarked? If so, I think you can get ownership of these domains. -- though it's unlikely you've gotten the trademark for the words "Joe" and "Datacenter".
Good luck
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02-05-2014, 06:02 PM #9Web Hosting Evangelist
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Wow, this is very unprofessional of the owner of these two companies to do this.
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02-05-2014, 06:03 PM #10Aspiring Evangelist
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Thank you that must be it! And instead of doing the right thing and taking them down he re-directs them both to a complaint site. Very petty.
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02-05-2014, 06:27 PM #11Aspiring Evangelist
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Looks like it has been taken down now. I'm glad this has been resolved.
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02-05-2014, 06:31 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Do the same to them
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02-05-2014, 07:23 PM #13Radiant Troll
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Hah, that's pretty low. Thanks for letting us know.
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02-05-2014, 07:31 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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We had this happen once had to get lawyer to sort them out.
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02-05-2014, 07:48 PM #15WHT Addict
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02-05-2014, 10:01 PM #16Newbie
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well, what to make of THIS ?( i did got confused with this ) ..
just type : www.datashack.com and check urself.
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02-06-2014, 10:23 AM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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I would have thought they were all friends since they are all in the same building... this must make for some pretty awkward elevator rides...
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02-06-2014, 10:43 AM #18Web Hosting Guru
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02-06-2014, 11:15 AM #19Web Hosting Guru
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its easy, even you can register those domains and put those information on. i don't think anyone would be idiot enough to put their own address when trying to steal anyone's customer.
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02-06-2014, 11:17 AM #20Radiant Troll
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02-06-2014, 11:19 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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02-06-2014, 11:31 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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>> www.webhostingtalk.co
Webair also advertises here. This isn't sneaky, it's general marketing practice, most large companies have hundreds of these.
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