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12-12-2013, 03:56 PM #1Newbie
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My experience so far, looking for direction
Hi,
So I recently launched a website that has quite high traffic and am trying to find the right solution for it.
Originally it was launched on a shared hosting platform which I found useless almost immediately.
I then started hunting around for a VPS. I was very price conscious and went with chicagovps.net. I ordered an OpenVZ which was very cheap and upgraded to 6GB of ram. What I'm struggling to understand is, despite having 6GB, and opening apache up to allow a lot of connections, the website came to a halt pretty quickly under heavy traffic, and the memory didn't spike over 1.5gb. Would they be using the resources on my VPS to handle overload?
When it comes to virtualisation I know very little, so I'm not sure whether this is something that is possible (although assume it would be).
Having read around a bit now about chicagovps, I see they have a lot of bad reports. I'm now looking for a reliable VPS that will not employ dirty tactics.
The site itself is a pretty basic blog on WordPress. I'm aiming for 100k traffic per day, although may take a month or so to reach this (having to estimate). As far as traffic spikes go, I'm going to take a guess and said we could have 5k hits simultaneously when fresh content is posted on social media.
I looked into rackspace.com which seemed like a good option, but they were pretty pricey, especially their bandwidth costs.
My background, I'm from a Microsoft environment (little bit of server admin but mostly dev/database) but I have pretty poor linux/apache/vm knowledge.
Would appreciate any advice/feedback as well as some suggestions.
Thanks all.
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12-12-2013, 03:59 PM #2Newbie
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I'd also want something that would be easily scalable if that traffic spike was to increase down the track
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12-12-2013, 11:03 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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12-13-2013, 12:16 AM #4Premium Member
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From your description, it seems like your concurrent connections limit is being maxed out.
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12-13-2013, 12:37 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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ChicagoVPS are un-managed / semi-managed.
You can hire someone to look into your VPS and do some optimization.
You can also try:
1) Use CloudFlare free account.
2) Use any cache plugin.
3) MySQL / Apache Optimization.
You can also consider a KVM / XEN fully managed VPS. OpenVZ are generally oversold.█ YagHost - Fast Reliable Hosting Since 2009
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12-13-2013, 12:42 AM #6Newbie
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I upped the MaxClients A LOT to ensure this wasn't the issue. When I had it set quite low I found an error in the apache2.conf which suggested it was too low, but since I upped this (to a couple thousand) it didn't report any errors.
I've contacted them asking for some assistance and they told me they are a completely "unmanaged solution" - their helpdesk does not provide very good support at all.
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12-13-2013, 12:45 AM #7Newbie
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I've got a cache plugin on the WordPress install, just using some basic features at the moment and this didn't help.
I've also done some MySQL optimisation but again, I don't think the DB calls are heavy load. Apache, would love to know any config suggestions you have here.
What is CloudFlare and is a free account enough?
As I mentioned above, ChicagoVPS have told me they have no ability to give tech support as they are an unmanaged service.
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12-13-2013, 12:52 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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Yes, it does work to speed-up website and save lots of bandwidth.
As I mentioned above, ChicagoVPS have told me they have no ability to give tech support as they are an unmanaged service.
what is result of
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12-13-2013, 01:18 AM #9Newbie
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12-13-2013, 01:24 AM #10Web Hosting Master
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Its loading at my end, and I think it working good now.
Code:C:\Users\nameme>ping testosteroneprinciples.org Pinging testosteroneprinciples.org [108.162.198.116] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 108.162.198.116: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=51 Reply from 108.162.198.116: bytes=32 time=175ms TTL=51 Reply from 108.162.198.116: bytes=32 time=158ms TTL=51 Reply from 108.162.198.116: bytes=32 time=159ms TTL=51 Ping statistics for 108.162.198.116: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 158ms, Maximum = 175ms, Average = 163ms
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12-13-2013, 01:27 AM #11Newbie
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Interesting, I get "Ping request could not find host testosteroneprinciples.org Please check the name and try again.
If the DNS hadn't updated on my end surely I'd still be seeing the site? Or do you think Cloudflare takes a while to update it's own servers per country? I'm in Australia by the way..
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12-13-2013, 01:29 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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12-13-2013, 01:37 AM #13Newbie
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12-13-2013, 01:54 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Have you tried opening your website using proxy like:
kproxy.com
awebproxy.com
So how does this work? How is it free and are there multiple VM's working for this? If I have a huge traffic spike do you think it'll be able to handle the load??
http://www.cloudflare.com/overview
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12-13-2013, 02:01 AM #15Newbie
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12-13-2013, 02:15 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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12-13-2013, 02:31 AM #17Newbie
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Just the one website. Daily traffic will be aiming for 100k per day and as I mentioned up to 5k simultaneous during spikes - purely due to posts on facebook
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12-13-2013, 03:15 AM #19Newbie
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That's a good question, is there anything specific I can look for to give you? Unfortunately I am amateur when it comes to linux/apache
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12-13-2013, 04:27 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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12-13-2013, 04:56 AM #22Newbie
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Yeah I guess I'm just looking for some advice/assistance as to what I need spec wise and who would be a reliable managed host at reasonable rates
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12-13-2013, 05:22 AM #23Web Hosting Guru
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Not only doesn't ChicagoVPS offer managed hosting and what you consider basic support, but they are also banned from WHT for bad behavior. Folks need to research providers before spending hard earned money. Good luck getting a refund, CVPS isn't known for refunds either.
You should be aware that ChicagoVPS has been hacked and their customer database made public twice in the past year.
From that, the horror to discover 100's of GB's of RAM sold on rather pedestrian sized E3 servers. Should explain some of the oddness of your VPS resources or lack thereof.
You bought on price and screwed yourself, sadly.
A project like this needs modeled and tested locally or on a dedicated box first. With your code, apps, etc. an exact copy of what is to be deployed must be load tested.
100k what a day? Pages I assume. Every page will have many elements, so total hits could total in the millions to 10's of millions all depending. That could be fairly large load.
5k simultaneous accesses or even that in say a few minutes is literally a DDoS style attack in a virtualized environment. Most hosts will shut you down for resource abuse. Read their TOS and AUP policy before buying from anyone else. Those docs should cover these points, if they don't stay away.
A project like this would be best perfected on a dedicated server. Give one a try first and determine after perfecting it - IF - it can be made to run in a virtualized environment. But, something like this really would be well suited in a true cloud environment with multiple daemons, redundancy, fail over, etc.
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