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    This checks your reg and shows you ALL EMPTY CLSID KEYS.. (Every program gets assigned a CLSID key and if you no longer have it,the key is usually cleared (If its not deleted totally its left EMPTY))

    I ran this and it found 51 "value not set" keys and i removed them all

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    Does CCleaner also do this? If not this might be a good addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggyMike View Post
    Does CCleaner also do this? If not this might be a good addition.
    Yes CCleaner also has a registry cleaner in it.
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    Hello,
    Just a piece of advice from a seasoned desktop tech. Using a registry cleaner is like doing open heart surgery with a lawnmower. I have seen those cause more damage then good.
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    Keith,

    If we were on lowendtalk, I would of "thanked" that ;]

    I agree to be honest, it has caused me quite a few issues in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattS View Post
    Yes CCleaner also has a registry cleaner in it.
    yep + it has a portable version. no installation required and its lite!

    highly recommended!
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    I used CCleaner since 3 or 4 year, is very simple, automatic and works excellent for me

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    I have never had a problem with CCleaner jacking my machine. I run it regularly and swear by it.
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    ccleaner is what I offer all my customers, its clean and doesnt harm the computer.

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    CCleaner and tuneUp utilities.
    I've been recomending that 2 programs, in that order. So far no problems at all. On the newest windows there should be less problems with the registry.

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    CCleaner does do this, but registry cleaners don't help nowadays, I've yet to see a benchmark that shows ANY improvement at all on a modern OS. CCleaner is great for cleaning up unused/temp files though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J450N View Post
    I've yet to see a benchmark that shows ANY improvement at all on a modern OS.
    Agree

    In fast most benchmarks show that the performance may actually be worse
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    I haven't seen any benchmark testing but have heard many people complain about slow machines that improved after running a registry cleaner. That testimony is enough for me.
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    CCleaner is what I use.

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    I forgot to mention Spy Search and Destroy, free and very good for cleaning up.

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    My "Freeware" weapons of choice are:

    Mircosoft Security Essentials (MSE)
    Malwarebytes (MBAM)
    CCleaner (CrapCleaner)
    Spybot S&D (Search & Destory)

    Ago ahead and have fun

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    Snake oil, beware, registry cleaners suck.

    Used to get a lot of business fixing people's computers after they ran registry cleaners, but honestly glad to be out of that side of the business

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Stephen) View Post
    registry cleaners suck.
    Why do you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Because they are unneeded. As I stated above, it is like doing open heart surgery with a lawnmower. There is no way that a program can keep up to date with every software vendor to know what is needed and what is not needed.

    There is also no proven benefit to cleaning your registry. Removing select keys can help if you need to re-install buggy code but this should be a manual process. I have seen more damage from registry cleaners then fixed computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    Why do you think that?
    15 years experience and many tens of thousands of dollars fixing the mistakes they make.

    Like removing all those IDs from the registry that are supposedly not used and making their apps not work, files not open and all that great stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    There is also no proven benefit to cleaning your registry.
    So what about those viruses/malware which hide within the registry?

    A registry cleaner such as CCleaner will work 95% of the time if not then a manual clean will need to be done, Ive used CCleaner since early 2003 time and never had an issue with it infact its a piece of software which I swear by and gets installed on every machine I own or work on

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    So what about those viruses/malware which hide within the registry?
    Boot into safe mode and remove it, it is the best way, in every case, because many times they morph about and knowing how to do it manually will keep you from being reliant on some program being updated.

    Moreover learning how they get in the registry, and how they operate helps you to know how to protect yourself better, and remove even programs that aren't bad but you don't want running all the time, it puts you in control of your machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    So what about those viruses/malware which hide within the registry?

    A registry cleaner such as CCleaner will work 95% of the time if not then a manual clean will need to be done, Ive used CCleaner since early 2003 time and never had an issue with it infact its a piece of software which I swear by and gets installed on every machine I own or work on
    Viruses cant hide int he registry, they simply add startup keys and change registry values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    they simply add startup keys and change registry values.
    Which means they can hide deep within the registry.

    Hence doing a registry clean is good practice if you know what your doing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    Which means they can hide deep within the registry...
    No, the virus itself cannot reside in the registry, just paameters used to run it. The virus itself is on the local storage (normally in %TEMP%, or %SYSTEM%)

    Registry cleaners should not be used as Anti-Viruses
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    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    No, the virus itself cannot reside in the registry, just paameters used to run it. The virus itself is on the local storage (normally in %TEMP%, or %SYSTEM%)

    Registry cleaners should not be used as Anti-Viruses
    I think your missing the point I am trying to make here, Oh well never mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    Which means they can hide deep within the registry.

    Hence doing a registry clean is good practice if you know what your doing...
    No they don't hide deep within the registry, they hide in places that startup commands can be stored, there are only a few places


    A registry 'clean' is still not a good idea, it is best to remove bad keys WHEN NEEDED, but just running an app is hardly a clean, even if a few do a good targeted job of removing a few malware apps, it is still far better to actually know what you are doing and make the changes yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post

    Hence doing a registry clean is good practice if you know what your doing...
    The problem is MOST dont know what they are doing. They read forums/blogs that tell novices to clean their registry to fix common errors. Registry cleaners pay up the node for Adsense ad placement on popular computer sites to attract more victims.

    If you knew what you are doing, you would not need a cleaner, regedit works well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Stephen) View Post
    No they don't hide deep within the registry, they hide in places that startup commands can be stored, there are only a few places
    I,ll see if I can find the name of that Police malware thing I had to deal with afew months back.

    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    If you knew what you are doing, you would not need a cleaner, regedit works well.
    I use CCleaner for ease of use just like most tech minded folk likely do not that I dont know how to use "regedit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd/home View Post
    I use CCleaner for ease of use just like most tech minded folk likely do not that I dont know how to use "regedit"
    The odds of ccleaner actually speeding up your pc in any noticeable way by doing its registry cleaner is slim to none. The chances it will remove something that will later cause an application or service to hang or crash is much greater. Ccleaner is good for quickly cleaning out temp files, but don't let an application touch your registry. It will either err so far on the side of caution that it will not help or it won't and will be the cause of hidden headaches down the road.

    Before I started my current job a previous sys admin used to run ccleaner on the servers, I **** a brick and asked why in the world they would do it on a server. The techs agreed and then said it was risky to run it on servers, from now on they will only run it on the pcs. I said, "if it isn't appropriate for servers, why is it appropriate for pcs?" They had no answer for me. People have bought into the hype of these cleaners that they don't think clearly about it.

    If you wouldn't run it on a mission critical server for fear that it will do more harm than good, why run it on your pc? The same result applies. If you don't know how to use Regedit or the ins and outs of your OS take periodic snapshots or images. But don't let some automated tool go in there and highlight a bunch of stuff in your registry that you don't know what it is doing and let it wipe it off your system. If you don't know what it is I can guarantee the cleaner doesn't either.

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    CCleaner is good

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    Hello,
    Just a piece of advice from a seasoned desktop tech. Using a registry cleaner is like doing open heart surgery with a lawnmower. I have seen those cause more damage then good.
    I second that. Don't do it. Nothing I love more than going behind someone that has improperly edited their registry.

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    Danny Gould also has a great safe cleaner with a flushing toilet sound great for around 0400am in the morning. Check it out on google.

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    Just use CCleaner you will not regret

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    I agree that CCleaner is the one to go with

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    CCleaner all the way (for temp files). Don't use registry cleaners though !!!!

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    PC Tools Privacy guardian is good for cleaning browser history ect
    and if you look around it's nearly always on promo
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    I am using Tuneup utilities cleaner application to my machine, it shows errors automatically by notification. it is good application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMyers View Post
    Agree

    In fast most benchmarks show that the performance may actually be worse
    i'm not a user but I'm interested to know incase i see some of my friends once again recommend me this software.
    What are some of the issues you encountered after using ccleaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhu View Post
    i'm not a user but I'm interested to know incase i see some of my friends once again recommend me this software.
    What are some of the issues you encountered after using ccleaner?
    Hello,
    Using ccleaner is not a bad thing, just skip over the registry cleaning option
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