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[The Dude]

Originally Posted by JaJae

http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=159932,00.html

Well of course THE IRS is going to say it IS NOT VOLUNTARY! (They dont want the sheep knowing the truth)

[dthigpen]

You let us know how that works out for you.

[jj@24khost]

Originally Posted by DewlanceHosting

Good government not need a TAX

How do you pay for your Military? How do you pay the salaries of poloticians, as it is a full time job and nobody can afford to work for free?

an old quote that is so true. The only thing in life that is for sure is death and taxes. This is because they are neccessary evils.

Please show me where your money tree grows! I could use some right now.

[The Dude]

I forgot i posted another thread about this here on WHT,it has added excellent info!

www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=939594

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Well of course THE IRS is going to say it IS NOT VOLUNTARY! (They dont want the sheep knowing the truth)

If you want to pull a Wesley Snipes go right ahead. You see where that landed him. You legally have to file your tax returns or you will be sent to jail. If you file and don't pay they will start to levy you and take other legal action, but the chance of going to jail will be slim. Either way you are legally responsible for the money owed to pay your taxes.

[Mike V]

Originally Posted by The Dude

Well of course THE IRS is going to say it IS NOT VOLUNTARY! (They dont want the sheep knowing the truth)

Do you pay income taxes?

The IRS isn't always the most competent group, but these loopholes that exist aren't there for the common people. Now, if you're wealthy enough to donate your own art collection to your own private museum as a write-off, that's different.

[CrazyPenguin]

Originally Posted by Ultima Systems

Government is the biggest business in the country. They can easily work out a way to be profitable without taxes.

Really!!? Last time I looked the US was over 14 trillion dollars in debt. So how do you propose they be profitable without taxation???

[devonblzx]

Originally Posted by sosolabs

How do you pay for your Military? How do you pay the salaries of poloticians, as it is a full time job and nobody can afford to work for free?

an old quote that is so true. The only thing in life that is for sure is death and taxes. This is because they are neccessary evils.

Please show me where your money tree grows! I could use some right now.

True, but before 1913 there was no income tax, and even back then the income tax was very small.

There would always need to be taxes and the income tax is far from the only tax the federal government has on us. (ex. Gas, Tobacco, Alcohol, Estate, Gift, Capital Gains, Tariffs, etc)

Congress used to be part time in the beginning of the country, we could start with that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_expenditures

That is another thing we could address, along with the billions given to other countries for nothing in return (ex. North Korea, Egypt, etc).

No income tax would be hard, but a smaller income tax is definitely possible.

[M Bacon]

It's the U.S. government. "stupid" is the best word to describe it.

[alons]

In any case coutries having taxes more than 15% should rethink their stands.
Taxes are important but they should not discourage earnings

[devonblzx]

Originally Posted by CrazyPenguin

Really!!? Last time I looked the US was over 14 trillion dollars in debt. So how do you propose they be profitable without taxation???

Over 15 now, technically they don't have to have an income tax because they print money anyways. Printing money is the biggest tax because it provides them with the money to spend over budget and decreases the value of the money that we hold.

[Aussie Bob]

My feeling on this subject is the government should not tax a worker's income or a worker's production. There's plenty of other taxes the government can derive an income from, and leave a worker's income untaxed. The more money a worker has in his or her pocket, means the more they can spend, and the bigger the economy will be, as a result.

Taking a portion of a worker's income, and decreasing their spending power, and then redistributing that money through government, is just a crazy and inefficient form of socialism and failed limp wristed idealism. I doubt your founding fathers ever foresaw taxes on a worker's income as being a good thing for your country.

[Verlaffle]

Just don't pay taxes at all that always works out right.

[SCRAPPPY25]

My dad tried this BS many years ago and got audited for it.

[JaJae]

I know someone who didn''t file his taxes for nearly ten years. He knew he didn't owe any money and just hated doing his taxes. One day he got a call from the IRS telling him he had to file his taxes. He asked why and said he didn't owe anything. They agreed and said their estimations show they owed him quite a bit of money, but legally he still had to file. So he hird and accountant and got back $20k or so. Moral of the story of the story and something you'd learn from these failed attempts to get out of paying taxes... You must legally file your taxes. Fail to do so any you will be sent to jail. But if you file and don't pay the chances of you going to jail are basically null. They will just come after you until you pay or take legal action against you. But you won't be incarcerated.