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05-01-2011, 07:31 PM #1WHT Addict
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Time and skills involved with unmanaged VPS
Hi, just curious what I would be getting into. Could I expect if I am only hosting my own websites for the first year that I could run a unmanaged VPS? I have basic knowledge of Linux, Apache and mySQL. I was thinking of setting up a home environment, but the price for entry level VPS is extremely low. Could I pull this off using tutorials? How much time do you think I would need to spend on a weekly basis to keep things running without too many issues? What would be my biggest challenges?
Thanks! Jxff
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05-01-2011, 07:38 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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If your requirements wont be changing, then it should be pretty simple and hassle free once you have everything setup.
Just choose a decent stable VPS provider and keep your system updated now and then. If you dont need the absolute latest software versions, use your distributions own packages and update with a single command
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05-01-2011, 07:46 PM #3WHT Addict
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05-01-2011, 07:50 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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linode.com is a safe bet and they have UK + several US locations. I've got 1 VPS with them for some offsite monitoring and its been faultless.
As for distro I like CentOS, there are plenty of tutorials on www.howtoforge.com on how to setup LAMP , mailserver etc from scratch.
The owner of that site also develops a basic control panel called ISPconfig. Might not want to bother with a control panel, but could be worth a look.
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05-01-2011, 07:54 PM #5The Linux Specialist
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Every day, you can experience different error... if you are not familiar with any software you mentioned, it can days for you to fix it or even months...
If your sites are not critical, then you can play otherwise do not put this into business until you are ready.
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05-01-2011, 08:00 PM #6WHT Addict
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I really appreciate the info. I currently have a reseller plan in the UK, and several hosting plans in the US and eventually want to have VPS in both countries. I will be checking out your signature links
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05-01-2011, 08:05 PM #7Web Hosting Guru
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I set up a VM at home to learn, and it's a essential learning and testing tool, I highly recommend you set a VM or a put Linux on an old machine at home before getting an unmanaged VPS.
With tutorials something always doesn't work as you'd expect / goes wrong. You have to know what your doing, and unless you want to get hacked, you can't just set your stuff up and walk away.
It's easy for those of us who've already learned it, but it can get complicated quickly. If you're willing to commit to learning it, that's great, take your time, but if you want to just set and forget, it doesn't work like that, and the people who think it does are asking for trouble.
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05-01-2011, 08:09 PM #8WHT Addict
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again, thanks to all your replies.
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05-01-2011, 08:23 PM #9WHT Addict
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My niche is providing hosting solutions for those that want everything handled, so scripts to setup the accounts and features that most clients need is the primary reason I want a VPS, for root access and to speed up the process of adding new clients. I have found I like using cPanel in a reseller plan much more than the environment you get with different shared hosting plans, but I want to something I can have a form/script to input the client's data and the basic account features would be setup with as much automation as possible.
Jxff
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05-01-2011, 08:25 PM #10Premium Member
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An unmanaged VPS should suffice for your requirements.
If you're looking for an unmanaged VPS provider, I would suggest Semoweb.com
They have some pretty good reviews and the guys working there do a great job!
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05-01-2011, 08:29 PM #11Web Hosting Guru
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You don't want to learn on a production box. If you aren't confident you can manage a linux server in the command line on your own, and you're hosting clients on it, go managed. If you need cpannel for yourself (not for clients), you need management.
If you have to ask, go managed. You should know what's involved with maintaining a Linux server before you decide to do it, if the stuff on it matters to you.
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05-01-2011, 09:10 PM #12
I said the exact same sentence in another thread the other day. It does sum it up nicely.
@OP, why not just get a managed VPS instead? It's like having a backup plan then i.e if you have an unmanaged VPS and can't figure something out... you'll be stuck. Where as if you have a managed VPS and can't figure something out, you can just ask your provider for help! No one knows how to fix every issue. The more people there is to help the quicker/easier it is to get things fixed.
That's why I recommend using a managed VPS as help is always there should you need it then. You can have a business site on a managed VPS and not have to worry if you mess anything up as the provider can fix it for you.
Just because you have a managed VPS it doesn't mean you have to rely on their support. It's good to have the extra support should you get stuck though. It saves having to pay admin time fee's, etc. And it's not like managed VPSs cost that much extra anyway. Well worth getting a managed VPS, IMO.HostXNow - Shared Web Hosting | Semi Dedicated Hosting | Enterprise Reseller Hosting | VPS Hosting
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05-01-2011, 09:20 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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I'd also take into consideration exactly what sort of content you are hosting and how likely others would be offended by it.
If you're hosting something controversial, it would be far more likely that people would screw with you in ways you weren't prepared for.
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05-01-2011, 09:43 PM #14Web Hosting Guru
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Sounds like it might be a home setup... I have been working on a couple of Unbuntu boxes for a few months (my Slackware days date back to '96) and as I expected there is probably much more to learn, especially the command line. I learn best with a good reference... anyone have any favorites for the command line?
I have a new semoweb reseller account in the UK and so far have been very happy.
Thanks again to everyone for their insights and I look forward to being on the answer side of this common inquiry, Jxff
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05-01-2011, 11:15 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Is your goal to learn linux or to host?
If mostly to learn, one alternative is to setup a home VM using VMware player or Virtualbox, both of which are free. You could run as many VMs as you have memory to host.
The only reason to get a VPS is if you want the bandwidth/public IPs to host something. But of course, considering you can get small ones for less than a dollar a month these days, perhaps there's no reason not to :-)
linode is excellent for newcomers due to their big community - you really can't go wrong with them.
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I am looking to make the next step from reseller account to VPS. I want to use the VPS to have more control. My clients (usually) never touch the cPanel or login to their shared web access. After setting up a Unbuntu box a few months ago I was impressed by how much easier it was to configure and use compared to using linux back in the '90's. I have been in IT since '96, but mostly proprietary technologies. The goal would be to get up to speed with a distro and then move my clients over. I was thinking it would be better to use a VPS account for several reasons; I don't have to worry about home network security, it is very cheap these days and I will be looking for someone this fall to help me develop forms and write scripts and I thought by having a VPS I could get that done expeditiously.
I have that book, bought it used years ago I was checking out titles on the command line and was thinking about getting one.
Jxff
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05-04-2011, 04:54 PM #20WHT Addict
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If anyone cares I got a VPS today and didn't know if it would be appreciated if I posted how it was coming along. I went with semoweb. I couldn't turn down the opportunity to make the next step for $30 a year.
Thanks! Jxff
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