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02-14-2011, 06:15 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Feedback on XO Transit
Hey guys, looking at a few gigs with XO transit, anyone have a personal experience they would like to share?
Right now in Cincinnati we utilize Level3 for our 10G primary and looking to pickup a few secondarys.
Thanks Bros.'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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02-14-2011, 07:49 PM #2Into the night
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I have not personally dealt with XO, however the opinions are very divided on the interwebs about XO. There are some who like them and some who really hate them. Dealing with any telco company is not easy.
I am very curious about them as well, so this thread would really help me and others out. I am actually looking into this myself, as it's been bothering me for about 3-4 years now. I hear that they do support net neutrality, however so that is one good thing about them.██ Something awesome
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02-14-2011, 08:00 PM #3
time to get comfy...
I've *never* heard anyone on webhosting talk say *anything* good about XO. Even generally hated providers have *some* people saying *something* good about them, so I'd love to see someone come in here and say XO is great for them, but I'm not going to hold my breath.IOFLOOD.com -- We Love Servers
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02-14-2011, 08:06 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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You don't have anyone else available other than XO?
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02-14-2011, 08:18 PM #5Rockin' the beer gut
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XO is on my **** list.
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02-14-2011, 08:40 PM #6Web Hosting Guru
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Perhaps some evidence of why not to get XO could be provided?
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02-14-2011, 08:54 PM #7CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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Search my recent posts, I just got done explaining why XO is garbage in another thread.
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02-14-2011, 10:31 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Regardless of the service issues, they are also the most costly provider that we polled at the moment for full gigabit ports, by a substantial margin.
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02-14-2011, 10:41 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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All I could say is that, we have had xo for 10 years without a flicker.
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02-14-2011, 10:56 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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That's what I want to hear, I don't care if the BW has higher latency than other carriers, it's not going to be our primary, we will use it as a last resort failover.
They seem to be the only carrier around that has a decent pipe besides level3.
I've called, GlobalCrossing,Abovenet, Savvis and HE. HE had the best pricing by far, $4/mbit and $1200/mo for a GigE but they don't have service here YET, its on their roadmap the rep said...
Anyone else worth my time that may have lines in Cincy??
Hoping for more good feedback on XO.'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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02-14-2011, 10:58 PM #11IOFLOOD.com -- We Love Servers
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02-14-2011, 11:02 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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I'm not worried about contracts and billing...
I want to know if the network is stable.'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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02-15-2011, 12:03 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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Why would you have multiple providers and local pref the crap out of a single one? Do you plan on announcing routes to both of your providers at once, or only in the event of an outage with the primary?
In any event, here is an example of XO's quality. Here in Denver, nearly all of their outbound routes went through Chicago, for years, even though their network map indicated links to Dallas and LA as well. It appears that they have made some improvements in this area recently -- for example, tracerouting to softlayer actually goes through Dallas, the fact of the matter is that the on-going, long term nature of all traffic going from Denver to Chicago indicates a significant lack of engineering talent or engineering talent that is completely hamstrung by other business/policy limitations.
Also, as a former consumer of InterNAP IP services, which utilized XO based transport services, I can say that XO transport services were offline frequently and for retarded reasons. Homing redundant links to the same line card, tech causing fiber kink that breaks fiber jumper, etc, etc.Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC // Co-Founder & CTO
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02-15-2011, 12:54 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Sigh, now your scaring me away...
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02-15-2011, 01:36 AM #15Managed Service Provider
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I can say my experience in the past involving XO mirrors Jay's.
When working for a global software company we used XO for private site-site transport and for internet circuits in some locations. Interruptions were frequent and routing was often sub-par and the *same* issues would occur frequently. As a company there was little concern for our issues as a client, SLAs were not upheld, billing disputes were frequent.
All in all we had a poor relationship.
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02-15-2011, 01:38 AM #16Temporarily Suspended
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Friends dont let friends buy XO
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Don't forget the billing. It's more nightmarish than even Telx's ;-)
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02-15-2011, 03:28 AM #18Managed Service Provider
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02-15-2011, 11:07 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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BAHHHH TwTelecom wants $45/Mbit... and he is saying that's the *best* they can do.... Ridiculous.
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02-15-2011, 11:11 AM #20Jason Canady • Unlimited Net, LLC
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02-15-2011, 11:26 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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They wan't to form a partnership with us to *save us more* now to... I told them they need to be in the $20/Mbit ball park to get us. I don't mind paying a little extra for them to be the failover.
Sigh...'Ripcord'ing is the only way!
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02-15-2011, 12:14 PM #24Into the night
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how about Qwest?
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