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    Google Sandbox

    How do you know if your site is in the google sand box?
    How do you get your site out of the google sand box?
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    Your site is in the sandbox if it has some links and it's not ranking in the top 100 for a slightly competitive phrase that it's optimized for. Depending how you look on it all new sites are in the sandbox. The time they spend there depends on links. Quality of links beats quantity of links. Pick up a large number of quality links quickly and your site will rank for relatively competitive phrases quickly. Pick up a few quality links more slowly and you'll emerge from the sandbox more slowly.

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    Let's say your domain has been registered for more than 2 years, and its optimized for a certain keyword, but not even showing up in the top 100 SERP, is there a way to get your site out of the sand box?
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    There is no such thing as the sand box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by websoltech View Post
    Let's say your domain has been registered for more than 2 years, and its optimized for a certain keyword, but not even showing up in the top 100 SERP, is there a way to get your site out of the sand box?
    Sandbox is a known issue for new sites. It may last for 6-8 months but not for two years...

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    > Sandbox is a known issue for new sites. It may last for 6-8 months but not for two years...

    Sandbox does not exist.

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    www.hgh.tv is a site I was hired to do SEO work on and I haven't been able to crack the top 100 for keyword "HGH" in www.google.com but I was able to get onto page one of www.yahoo.com for keyword HGH. Is the site in the google sandbox? is there something I'm not doing right? I have been adding articles, news, link backs to the site. Need some advice here, please PM.
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    Aside from anything else, the homepage is laregely duplicate content ...

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    is there a tool, to help you know how much of your site is duplicate content?
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    copyscape ...

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    www.CopyScape.com - A site in every top SEO tool box. I'm a pretty damn good SEO and have had a lot of success, with this tool I should be able to do great things!
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    If I re-write all the content on www.HGH.tv for the client, so that all the material on the web site is unique, will this significantly improve the SEO or once you are in the sandbox your in the sandbox for life? In other words, is there redemption for bad web sites to climb to the top if corrective measures are taken?
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    There is no such thing as the sandbox. Duplicate content results in filtering at SERPs assembly, making the content unique (not just spinning) should improve your ranking slightly. Then you can address some of your other issues.

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    In my own experiences, Google sandbox is designed for those new sites and you could get your sites out of sandbox via building quality backlinks from high PR sources, especially form those niche relative sites.

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    *sigh* ... no ... such ... thing ... as ... sandbox. No such thing. Doesn't exist. Is a figment of your imagination. No. Such. Thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by completegibbon View Post
    *sigh* ... no ... such ... thing ... as ... sandbox. No such thing. Doesn't exist. Is a figment of your imagination. No. Such. Thing.
    Ok, I've never seen it on any of my sites but what about this - http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-s...d-by-gradercom I used to think that seomoz.org is a trusted site. Do you think that randfish is totally wrong?
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    The example that randfish gives is not a new domain - it was registered back in 1999. Putting it into the wayback machine also shows that for the majority of it's life it was hosting spam ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by websoltech View Post
    Let's say your domain has been registered for more than 2 years, and its optimized for a certain keyword, but not even showing up in the top 100 SERP, is there a way to get your site out of the sand box?
    Has there been content for your keywords on that domain for 2 years? Or are you just saying the domain is 2 years old?
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    To escape the Sandbox, a new site needs to have relevant authority links and lots of trustworthy, unique, and original content. You also need to build links slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngocbebabe View Post
    To escape the Sandbox, a new site needs to have relevant authority links and lots of trustworthy, unique, and original content. You also need to build links slowly.
    What's the usual time sites stay in the Sandbox? 6mos? 12mos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotlivechat View Post
    What's the usual time sites stay in the Sandbox? 6mos? 12mos?
    Difficult to answer give that the sandbox doesn't exist!

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    Google sandbox is nothing physical but a place where websites reside after they have created some illegal ways of promotion.

    To get out of that box you cannot do anything much as you can find that reason of sandboxing, deleting those links or whatever it is and then submiting request to Google for reconsidering your website.

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    Well, like I have said over and over again. I have been launching sites since late 2006. None of these sites ever got sandboxed. I just launched a new site and within three days it was ranking # 12.

    So I call this one a myth. Have you ever heard of fresh content?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotlivechat View Post
    What's the usual time sites stay in the Sandbox? 6mos? 12mos?
    There is no such specific timing. If you can find the reason it was banned and remove them then its easy for you to submit your website back to search them for recosideration. But its still not sure how much time Google takes to get back your website in search engines.

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    some says that google sandbox does not exist,well if your site is having less traffic then usual,then it calls penalization of google,and yes i also believe that there is nothing like google sandbox

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    The Google Sandbox is an alleged filter placed on new websites. The result is a site does not receive good rankings for its most important keywords and keyword phrases. Even with good content, abundant incoming links and strong Google PageRank, a site is still adversely affected by the Sandbox effect. The Sandbox acts as a de facto probation for sites, possibly to discourage spam sites from rising quickly, getting banned, and repeating the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels75 View Post
    some says that google sandbox does not exist,well if your site is having less traffic then usual,then it calls penalization of google,and yes i also believe that there is nothing like google sandbox
    Why will G ban you when you don;t have any traffic? It is fine that they will kick you away to some last ranking position but i haven't seen this thing written in their TOS for search engine ranking.

    Sandbox is not physical as i said earlier but yes it do exist.

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    The sandbox is basically a filter that made by Google to evade spamming of search results by unscrupulous webmasters. Before sandbox was made, new sites could rank fast, which permit "black hat" SEO professionals to make quick buck by ranking new site on top of Google's index for viable keyword, and then cashing out before Google caught up with their spam method. These domains usually were registered only for short period, exploited some loophole in Google algorithm and depend on sudden bursts of traffic over their limited life span.

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    There is no such thing as sandbox. If you can't see you website in google search, just wait for a few days. I have already experienced this. I thought they punished my website but I was wrong, it now has PR 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maurellemejos View Post
    There is no such thing as sandbox.
    I believe you may be mistaken, or all of these site are:
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    I believe you may be mistaken, or all of these site are:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=
    All of these sites are (or most ot them), the exception being the fourth one (for me anyway) which says :

    Google SandBox = Old phrase/term.
    It referred to sites that were "restricted" in some ways in performance, limiting their ability to do well i nteh SERPs for certain/all search terms etc.

    It is Now a commonly mis-used term, as the SandBox effect that is referred to kind of disappeared sometime ago.

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    Instead - you may find the following;
    * New sites get a short period (honeymoon) were they are "boosted" to see how they do and to get some traffic etc.
    * New sites loose the HMP after a time
    * Poorly structured sites may have content that ranks well to begin with, then falls due to shoddy site structure (blogs).
    * Some sites have "weak" content (tiny content, partially duplciated, very poor internal link structure etc.) and may be removed from SERPs
    * Some sites have a variety of Internal Duplication (Canonical, Multiple URLs, Replicated page contents etc.) which may get Filtered.
    * Some sites have External Duplicated content (full), which may be Filtered out (google only wants to show 1 version!)
    * Sites that are Not popular (low Quality and low Quantity InBoundLinks, and/or links that appear False/Non-Volunteered) may perform poorly

    Mixes of the above are often seen as "sandboxing" - they aren't - it just seems that people will believe anythign they read without checking the Age of what they read (seriously, reading SEO articles from 2005 is not going to help you all that much unless it poitns out Quality and Originality!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dexterallen01 View Post
    In other words new websites are put into a sandbox or a holding area and have their search ratings on hold until they can prove worthy of ranking.

    No they are not, at least read the links supplied above!

    I can get a new site in Google and performing well very quickly, there is NO SANDBOX for new websites!

    If your site is poor quality or mainly duplicate content then you may not appear in the serps this is not the alleged 'sandbox' there is no such thing!
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    how does one find out if there web site is in the sand box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by websoltech View Post
    how does one find out if there web site is in the sand box?
    Given that the sandbox doesn't exist, I would say that you can't.

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    You have to think there's some type of probationary 'box' the SE's are putting sites into. How else are they going to keep a lid of fly-by-night spammers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by completegibbon View Post
    Given that the sandbox doesn't exist, I would say that you can't.
    I would agree that the sandbox is a myth or at least that's my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotlivechat View Post
    You have to think there's some type of probationary 'box' the SE's are putting sites into.
    No I don't ...

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    For almost anyone who has been around for a while has seen new sites rank very well and soon.

    Yet, this none sense still gets banter about.

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    There is no spoon and there is no sandbox.

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    I don't know much about sandbox but if there is one, then it is funny why some new sites can rank highly in serps and not others.

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