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    Red face 9550 better than 3220 ?

    presently i am having lot of DB load issues on 3220 server i was offered 9550 server or 5520 or dual nehlam server presently i can afford 250$ monthly for a server so what you suggest upgrading to 9550 will solve / help me ?

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    5520 will work good but you should consider SCSI for good performace
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    Out the those three processors the 5520 is the undisputed champion.

    Best bang for your buck is the Core i7 920 right now. It's the sister processor of the 5520. But you'd be giving up ECC memory.

    It's a cost/benefit thing.

    You'll pay more for a 5520 and in theory you could one day avoid a unrecoverable failure by using ECC memory.

    So it depends on how important your database server is to you.

    With that said throwing processing power at a load issue isn't always the solution...

    ... you could very well be having disk i/o constraints.

    You should have a qualified expert examine your server's performance metrics to help you identify the constrain(s) and the best course of action.

    Hope this helps you on your journey to perfection.
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    any suggestion of guys who will help me to find exact solution ?

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    This a windows or a linux box?
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    linux centos 5.3 64bit

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    Post the output of these commands:

    1. sar
    2. cat /proc/meminfo
    3. iostat -kx
    4. cat /etc/my.cnf
    5. mysqladmin extended-status
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    Cool

    root@host [~]# sar
    Linux 2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 (host.aaaa.net) 10/25/2009

    12:00:01 AM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    12:10:01 AM all 25.01 11.76 22.59 5.77 0.00 34.87
    12:20:02 AM all 34.41 6.63 20.86 7.25 0.00 30.85
    12:30:02 AM all 26.65 6.93 10.67 0.74 0.00 55.01
    12:40:01 AM all 20.34 6.07 12.58 1.47 0.00 59.54
    12:50:01 AM all 32.23 7.30 20.76 5.25 0.00 34.47
    01:00:01 AM all 20.55 6.70 11.15 1.33 0.00 60.27
    01:10:01 AM all 11.00 4.96 4.21 0.21 0.00 79.62
    01:20:01 AM all 13.19 5.65 7.08 0.58 0.00 73.51
    01:30:01 AM all 11.87 5.84 4.89 0.42 0.00 76.98
    01:40:01 AM all 20.96 5.64 13.74 1.08 0.00 58.58
    01:50:02 AM all 18.34 5.80 8.10 0.40 0.00 67.37
    02:00:01 AM all 16.72 6.76 6.84 0.45 0.00 69.23
    02:10:01 AM all 15.53 6.81 6.55 0.37 0.00 70.75
    02:20:01 AM all 20.29 7.06 9.56 0.35 0.00 62.74
    02:30:01 AM all 16.95 6.11 7.03 0.32 0.00 69.59
    02:40:02 AM all 23.72 6.62 20.44 1.40 0.00 47.83
    02:50:01 AM all 15.05 6.23 6.69 0.34 0.00 71.69
    03:00:01 AM all 13.93 6.72 8.09 0.70 0.00 70.56
    03:10:01 AM all 18.57 8.20 12.17 0.36 0.00 60.70
    03:20:01 AM all 12.63 7.81 6.08 0.22 0.00 73.26
    03:30:01 AM all 16.52 8.35 7.78 0.17 0.00 67.18
    03:40:01 AM all 15.55 7.76 7.10 0.18 0.00 69.41

    Average: CPU %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    Average: all 19.09 6.90 10.68 1.33 0.00 62.00





    root@host [~]# cat /proc/meminfo
    MemTotal: 8181528 kB
    MemFree: 62652 kB
    Buffers: 58004 kB
    Cached: 6441584 kB
    SwapCached: 0 kB
    Active: 4261820 kB
    Inactive: 3520244 kB
    HighTotal: 0 kB
    HighFree: 0 kB
    LowTotal: 8181528 kB
    LowFree: 62652 kB
    SwapTotal: 1052248 kB
    SwapFree: 1052124 kB
    Dirty: 9116 kB
    Writeback: 0 kB
    AnonPages: 1282288 kB
    Mapped: 29836 kB
    Slab: 224624 kB
    PageTables: 81836 kB
    NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
    Bounce: 0 kB
    CommitLimit: 5143012 kB
    Committed_AS: 21524488 kB
    VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB
    VmallocUsed: 263548 kB
    VmallocChunk: 34359474675 kB
    HugePages_Total: 0
    HugePages_Free: 0
    HugePages_Rsvd: 0
    Hugepagesize: 2048 kB



    root@host [~]# iostat -kx
    Linux 2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 (host.aaaa.net) 10/25/2009

    avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
    18.89 6.95 10.50 1.74 0.00 61.91

    Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util
    sda 2.81 265.45 11.43 12.18 293.04 1110.87 118.89 1.24 52.33 2.68 6.32
    sda1 0.06 0.00 0.01 0.00 0.07 0.00 18.94 0.00 9.33 8.03 0.01
    sda2 2.63 265.45 11.42 12.18 292.88 1110.86 118.95 1.24 52.35 2.68 6.32
    sda3 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.07 0.01 33.11 0.00 11.17 9.70 0.00
    sdb 0.96 7.09 3.20 1.05 211.78 32.55 115.08 0.02 4.32 3.56 1.51
    sdb1 0.96 7.09 3.19 1.05 211.75 32.55 115.16 0.02 4.32 3.57 1.51



    root@host [~]# cat /etc/my.cnf
    [mysqld]
    datadir=/var/lib/mysql
    socket=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
    skip-locking
    skip-innodb
    query_cache_limit=1M
    query_cache_size=8M
    query_cache_type=1
    max_user_connections = 400
    max_connections = 200
    interactive_timeout=10
    wait_timeout=60
    connect_timeout=30
    thread_cache_size=128
    key_buffer=8M
    join_buffer=1M
    max_allowed_packet=32M
    table_cache=1024
    record_buffer=1M
    sort_buffer_size=2M
    read_buffer_size=4M
    max_connect_errors=10
    thread_concurrency=8
    myisam_sort_buffer_size=64M
    server-id=1

    #[mysql.server]
    #user=mysql
    #basedir=/var/lib

    [safe_mysqld]
    err-log=/var/log/mysqld.log
    pid-file=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.pid
    open_files_limit=8192

    #[mysqldump]
    #quick
    #max_allowed_packet=16M

    [mysql]
    no-auto-rehash

    [isamchk]
    key_buffer=64M
    sort_buffer=64M
    read_buffer=16M
    write_buffer=16M

    [myisamchk]
    key_buffer=64M
    sort_buffer=64M
    read_buffer=16M
    write_buffer=16M

    [mysqlhotcopy]
    interactive-timeout






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    +-----------------------------------+-------------+

  9. #9
    You may want to edit your post... deleting your hostname from the sar and iostat output. Your hostname isn't classified information, but probably best not to draw attention to this box.

    | Key_read_requests | 5525503 |
    | Key_reads | 2339 |
    | Key_write_requests | 108093 |
    | Key_writes | 759 |
    | Last_query_cost | 0.000000
    That's some efficient caching there!

    Everything looks pretty balanced over the last few hours. Things don't look bad since your last reboot, either.

    What load numbers are you seeing during the day?
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    i cant edit my post but it is not my host name

    normal load stay at 2.x but during peak goes upto 40.x server was rebooted 4 hours ago since nothing was working

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    i cant edit my post but it is not my host name

    normal load stay at 2.x but during peak goes upto 40.x server was rebooted 4 hours ago since nothing was working
    how much HDD u have now? and u have RAID setup with that?
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  12. #12
    I'd be more generous to mysql in terms of memory.

    key_buffer=8M

    and

    query_cache_size=8M

    ... and very low.

    Here's a nice script to help you better optimize mysql:

    http://www.day32.com/MySQL/

    Look at top when your server is busy. Is iowait (wa) over 10% consistently? If it is you need to start thinking in terms of more hard drives... faster hard drives... and RAID-10. Four 15K-RPM SAS hard drives in a hardware RAID-10 array can often perform miracles.

    You should also examine mysql processlist when things are busy. Perhaps enable slow query log to find problematic processes.

    Of course you can't go wrong with a 5520. The 5520 is a very nice processor... and dual 5520s are incredible. You can't go wrong there. But I would grab a core i7 920 over a q9550. The core i7 920 blew our mind when we benchmarked it. You not only get 4 cores, you get hyperthreading, too -- giving you 8 system cpus. She's a beast.

    Contact me through our website if you want to try one out. I've been using one for benchmarking that I'm done with now. You're free to try it out before we start offering these for sale.
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    i have server with 10tb.com it has 2*250gb sata HDD no raid , 10tb.com do not offer any i7 920 servers, i am myself using a i7 920 and quite happy , the reason we have server at 10tb.com is because of softlayer network and gigabit connectivity which is must for my sites , cost of 5520 (or dual 5520) is way too far than my budget
    Last edited by bhanuprasad1981; 10-25-2009 at 06:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    i have server with 10tb.com it has 2*250gb sata HDD no raid , 10tb.com do not offer any i7 920 servers, i am myself using a i7 920 and quite happy , the reason we have server at 10tb.com is because of softlayer network and gigabit connectivity which is must for my sites , cost of 5520 (or dual 5520) is way too far than my budget
    what will be our budget?you can try webnx also
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    does webnx has 1000mbit burst port ? and real good connectivity to europe ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    does webnx has 1000mbit burst port ? and real good connectivity to europe ?
    iam not haveing exact answer now better mail them to s a l e s@webnx.com

    in dedicated offer section they haveing there test ip you can test it from your side

    btw you need of managment because webnx is unmanaged
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    Unhappy

    Quote Originally Posted by yajur View Post
    iam not haveing exact answer now better mail them to s a l e s@webnx.com

    in dedicated offer section they haveing there test ip you can test it from your side

    btw you need of managment because webnx is unmanaged
    i am with PSM from a long time they only manage this server

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    i am with PSM from a long time they only manage this server
    then not a problem u can get i7 at 150$ from them and hire PSM btw they will provide 2TB bandwith as defult if need more then it will be out the budget
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    $150 is for the Core i7 860...

    ... 920 a better value.

    Not sure the 860 would even be worth the effort of switching servers.

    Are you spiking over 100mbit/s?
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    average is 50mbit but sometimes on high traffic goes upto 500mbit

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    average is 50mbit but sometimes on high traffic goes upto 500mbit
    for 50mbit lest you need 10-15TB bandwith +

    so better send mail to FDC they will be good too
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    i don't use 50mbit continuously , on average i use 5-7tb a month, i contacted webnx they gave a really good offer for 15k speed drives but i need to verify their connectivity to Europe , i hope some one having servers in Europe will help me to check their speed here is an link to their test file :-


    http://67.220.207.250/100mb.bin


    i made a little check to my 10tb.com server at dallas here is result :-

    root@host [/home]# wget http://67.220.207.250/100mb.bin
    --10:06:30-- http://67.220.207.250/100mb.bin
    => `100mb.bin'
    Connecting to 67.220.207.250:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104,857,600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]

    100%[====================================>] 104,857,600 655.33K/s ETA 00:00

    10:08:33 (834.11 KB/s) - `100mb.bin' saved [104857600/104857600]
    Last edited by bhanuprasad1981; 10-25-2009 at 11:09 AM.

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    Wink

    another result to my gigenet server :-

    root@host [/home]# wget http://67.220.207.250/100mb.bin
    --2009-10-25 10:11:03-- http://67.220.207.250/100mb.bin
    Connecting to 67.220.207.250:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhanuprasad1981 View Post
    i don't use 50mbit continuously , on average i use 5-7tb a month, i contacted webnx they gave a really good offer for 15k speed drives but i need to verify their connectivity to Europe , i hope some one having servers in Europe will help me to check their speed here is an link to their test file :-
    LA isn't the best place for good connectivity to Europe; you can't overcome the speed of light. With that said, Dallas isn't a very good location to get to Europe either. I would suggest looking for a provider in or close to NYC, as that's where the transatlantic fiber is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hhw View Post
    LA isn't the best place for good connectivity to Europe; you can't overcome the speed of light. With that said, Dallas isn't a very good location to get to Europe either. I would suggest looking for a provider in or close to NYC, as that's where the transatlantic fiber is.
    any suggestions would be really helpful

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