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09-13-2007, 07:29 PM #26the ground beneath my feet
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SWsoft and Ensim Corporation will exist as independent entities following the acquisition
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09-13-2007, 07:35 PM #28Aspiring Evangelist
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09-13-2007, 07:38 PM #29Eternal Member
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09-13-2007, 07:49 PM #30Knowledge is all
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09-13-2007, 08:12 PM #31Eternal Member
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Well, it depends on how you look at it. SWsoft now has a lot more resources and even greater potential to impact the future of the hosting industry, whether that be for good or bad. On the other hand, you could see it as a monopoly (I'm just presenting both sides, as I really don't have an opinion myself yet).
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09-13-2007, 08:14 PM #32…
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09-13-2007, 08:17 PM #33Retired Moderator
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Same view as long as Cpanel is independent and also Directadmin. One thing is this market barrier to entry is not high, exit barrier is not high. Suppliers are weak and buyers are weak. Differentiation is there or you can go for low cost and volume. So it will still attract new comers if there are too few players due to the acquisitions.
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09-13-2007, 08:39 PM #34Newbie
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09-13-2007, 10:20 PM #35Web Hosting Master
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It's now finally official. PSoft have been bought out by SWSoft and Comodo have kept their noses in via a partnership with SWSoft to "enable" H-Sphere cluster owners to integrate Comodo products with H-Sphere.
My biggest concern is the amount of junk SWSoft put in their products, both coding wise and VAR wise. I hope they keep the same core team in place and just add to the panel with features, not bloat it with junk. The news finally coming is good, though, because it should allow psoft to make good on some of those development promises that I assume were only hanging in the balance due to the possible acquisition.
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09-13-2007, 10:23 PM #36Web Hosting Master
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Although I no longer use H-Sphere, due to selling that business some years ago, I would never go back to it now. Swsoft products are sub standard and their sales and support are worse. Their products are a nightmare most of the time.
I'm glad we use software from companies that are it for the long haul. Hoever if one of them did get acquired by swsoft I would drop them.
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09-13-2007, 10:28 PM #37Web Hosting Master
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This thread might need merging with the other one started earlier today in the control panel section: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=635170
I'm just glad they finally announced it. It's been a long time in coming.
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09-13-2007, 10:36 PM #38Aspiring Evangelist
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Hey Matt. Back in the day when you had an early version of Hsphere, I had a reseller account from you. I had to move on though as it was lacking something I needed. Anyway, I have had good luck with Plesk on Linux, but then again I have not deployed it on a large scale.
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09-13-2007, 10:37 PM #39Location = SoapBox
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Yes, this announcement and transaction has been worked on for months and months.
But they don't have a monopoly as long as cPanel is independent.
I am quite excited about this and have been eagerly waiting the formal announcement. Obviously having SWSoft own so many control panels can be scary - but, the upside is HUGE. They are keeping the psoft development team intact and they are looking to integrate with core swsoft products (ie virtuozzo) and making it part of Open Fusion.www.cartika.com
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09-13-2007, 10:39 PM #40Location = SoapBox
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Personally not surprised that SWSoft are snapping up companies, only worries me if cPanel/DA go next...
For hsphere providers - this is great great news. comodo is a good company, but, they arent a control panel company - and in swsofts hands - hsphere could become something very special.www.cartika.com
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09-13-2007, 10:45 PM #41Web Hosting Evangelist
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I've used Plesk before and never was impressed. Why would a Windows control panel require PHP and mySQL! The interface looked great, but I'd a feeling what is underneath is not what I want. For that reason I've stayed away from any SWSoft products.
H-Sphere was in my opinion a great CP, but they were expensive especially for reseller packages. Their Windows support wasn't great, but talk about scalability...it was the solution!
Agree with the others that cPanel is not up to the challenge for scalability but my guess cPanel makes the bulk of their profit from single dedicated servers.
Hope this merger works out well for the hosting industry....Reliability • Performance • Integrity
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09-13-2007, 11:54 PM #43Location = SoapBox
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cpanel should not even enter into this discussion. A monopoly simply cannot exist and its for alot of reasons not related to cpanel. There are open source options, there are custom built options, there are many other commercial control panels already out there - the inclusion of cpanel into this discussion is irrelavent and cpanel is certainly not saving us all from a monopoly situation
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09-14-2007, 12:17 AM #44…
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And you still missed the point I was making...
I'm not making a feature or segment comparison of cPanel, Directadmin vs. H-Sphere, Ensim, and Plesk. Those panels listed all have their own selling points and brand differentiations that give them slightly different segments of the market.
As for cPanel not being the discussion, but "custom built options" being a reason, I simply find that laughable, and I'm no supporter of cPanel/WHM.
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Illistriuos,
this isnt a feature discussion at all...
I am just stating that there is no threat of a monopoly here - even if swsoft bought cpanel, there still isnt a monopoly - so, giving cpanel credit as a product that is preventing a monopoly isnt accurate.
BTW - the reason "custom built options" is a viable option is because any of the providers who have built their own control panels can easily start to market their product if they wanted to - and if there was suddenly a monopoly, I assure you, many of them would. Dont forget about other commercial and open source options - so, a monopoly just isnt going to happen and cpanel certainly should not be given credit for preventing a monopoly.www.cartika.com
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09-14-2007, 01:33 AM #46Temporarily Suspended
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Andrew, cPanel, DirectAdmin, Ensim... are standalone control panels, and SWSoft has acquired Ensim. Why do you think they would have zero interest in cPanel, or DA?
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Hi gate2vn,
Ensim Pro is closer to hsphere and plesk then you may think - and really becomes an entry level offering for swsoft. Linux and Windows support, plus some pretty extensive SaaS integration - which is really what swsoft would be after in my humble opinion - as it will easily facilitate their application distribution protocol - especially once Ensim is integrated into their open fusion platform.www.cartika.com
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09-14-2007, 01:43 AM #48Junior Guru Wannabe
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Basically the whole idea, after speaking to SWSOFT, is that they are going to accquire the technology of the different CPs, and in the long term, integrate the advantages/features of the accquired CPs, into their core products, Plesk, Virtuozzo, HSPc, PEM etc.
This is of course in the long term vision.
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09-14-2007, 01:46 AM #49Location = SoapBox
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3. Microsoft Technology. SWsoft enhances its Microsoft offerings as a result of acquiring Ensim Pro. As a Microsoft Gold partner, SWsoft is in a position to continue to expand Microsoft technologies in the hosting market.www.cartika.com
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09-14-2007, 01:47 AM #50Location = SoapBox
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Basically the whole idea, after speaking to SWSOFT, is that they are going to accquire the technology of the different CPs, and in the long term, integrate the advantages/features of the accquired CPs, into their core products, Plesk, Virtuozzo, HSPc, PEM etc.
I think ultimately - they dont care which control panel you are using, as long as you use PEM to manage it all and sell Virtuozzo and Sitebuilders.... but, thats just a guesswww.cartika.com
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