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10-24-2003, 12:39 PM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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Best Resellers in Los Angeles?
I'm looking for affordable resellers for colocation in southern california. Please let me know of any high quality resellers in LA. (High quality bandwidth, low price) I'm looking to leave my current colo provider due to constant DOS attacks to their network that makes my servers ping upwards of 200ms with 50% packet loss.
Thanks.
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10-24-2003, 08:36 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Luckmaster,
I would recommend looking at Mzima networks as far as your bandwidth goes, now you won't pay $80/mbit for this, anywhere, more like $125/mbit at a low commit, if not maybe $135 or so. However this is HIGH quality bandwidth.
Two companies I know now provide this :
1) corporate colo (corporatecolo.com I think?)
2) insider hosting (insiderhosting.com)
Either of these colo facilities can provide you with solid bandwidth at a decently low price.
If you want to look more towards cheap than quality, take a look at uscolo.com, they might be able to provide you with mzima bandwidth cross connects if you wanted. However, I do know their prices are much lower.
Dedicated servers are much easier to provide premium services at a low price with as you are speaking of.
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10-25-2003, 02:09 AM #3Junior Guru Wannabe
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Well, I'm looking for about 4-5U and about 3-4mbps. I've seen this, mzimahosting.com. I saw an offer for 1/4 rack and 5mbps for $600. Is that about as cheap as I would be able to find it with my requirements? Thank you.
Rene
PS I looked at both those websites you posted and can't seem to find anything to do with colocation. I'll contact sales and ask but do you know of their colocation page?
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10-25-2003, 07:52 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Try out InsiderHosting.com they have Mzima bandwidth which is very good...
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10-25-2003, 09:27 AM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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I just did a trace from my work here in Los Angeles. They have sbc business DSL. For some reason, i go thru SF in the trace to mzima in LA. I would have thought with all their providers, they would have been able to route me locally.
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10-25-2003, 12:57 PM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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Here, let me show you
Host Name IP Address Hop Ping Time Ping Avg % Loss Pkts r/s Ping best/worst
adsl-67-120-34-190.jadeonpos.com 67.120.34.190 1 10ms
dist2-vlan50.lsan03.pbi.net 64.161.163.213 2 10ms
bb1-g1-1-0.lsan03.pbi.net 67.116.100.49 3 10ms
core1-p6-0.cranca.sbcglobal.net 151.164.241.206 4 10ms
core2-p3-0.crscca.sbcglobal.net 151.164.242.185 5 20ms
bb2-p10-0.sntc01.sbcglobal.net 151.164.241.194 6 21ms
bb1-p12-0.eqsjca.sbcglobal.net 64.161.1.38 7 20ms
* Unknown Host * 151.164.89.234 8 20ms
if-1-0.core1.sanjose.teleglobe.net 64.86.82.161 9 50ms
if-8-0.core1.losangeles.teleglobe.net 207.45.193.86 10 20ms
if-5-0.core2.losangeles.teleglobe.net 207.45.223.61 11 20ms
ge8-0.cr02.lax02.mzima.net 66.198.112.10 12 20ms
pos3-0.cr02.lax01.mzima.net 64.235.224.185 13 20ms
ge1-1.cr03.lax01.mzima.net 64.235.224.150 14 30ms
ge3-0.ar02.lax01.mzima.net 64.235.224.218 15 20ms
hs1-sys.lax01.mzima.net 64.235.224.12 16 30ms
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10-25-2003, 05:23 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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its still only 30ms and it is quite possible that sbc refuses to peer with them. a lot of baby bells can be quite retentive that way.
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10-25-2003, 05:29 PM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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I understand that 30ms isn't that bad, but we do game server hosting and ping is everything. If you have the lowest ping, you are "where it's at". 30ms definitely isn't the best around. I currently get 9ms to where i'm colo'd, from SBC at work. However, due to their network issues, I want to find something comparable, but without the network problems.
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10-25-2003, 07:48 PM #9Aspiring Evangelist
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Cheap is not "Where it's at"
If you want to be "Where it's at" you'll need to be willing to spend more.
True Premium bandwidth almost always comes at a Premium price.
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10-25-2003, 07:59 PM #10Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
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i highly recommend insiderhosting, been with them for months... Top notch service, quality everything.
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10-25-2003, 10:07 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Luckmaster, take a look at :
http://stats.lunarpages.com/smokepin.../smokeping.cgi
Especially look at the Broadband ISPs section, note that is a 100% nonbias stat site but is hosted on Mzima bandwidth
You will _not_ find better bandwidth than mzima in Los Angeles.
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10-26-2003, 05:05 AM #12Web Hosting Evangelist
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I live close to LA and have servers in LA and Im also being sent to SF........... And my server is not on Mzima bandwidth, in fact EVERYTHING that I ping that is in LA goes to SF.
Im also on SBC DSL, the phone company is up to something, this is not a Mzima issue.
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10-26-2003, 09:18 AM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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Try tracing this then 2guns. You won't go to SF. 216.240.136.174. SBC stays in LA when going to williams, above.net or level3. There's probably more, but I know SBC stays local with those 3.
Last edited by Luckmaster; 10-26-2003 at 10:02 AM.
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10-26-2003, 09:52 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Well, Try XO in Irvine. Or Internap if they're in LA.
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10-26-2003, 10:17 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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Luckmaster, so basically SBC probably uses one of those three providers in the LA, and they have peering/transit with the rest in SJ/SF area.
Either way, you are basically stuck finding a provider with level3 (calpop?) , MFN, or Williams (um..yeah sure..) or you get a new provider. It's mostly not any certain transit providers fault, SBC refuses to peer with them, this isn't there fault.
Internap is in LA.
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10-26-2003, 11:13 AM #16Junior Guru Wannabe
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Anybody know of any colo resellers in LA that have at least one of these carriers? Thanks.
By the way, calpop no longer has level3. Their Level3 reseller dumped them for being a "spam house". They do however have williams, but they get attacked a lot. I'm actually colo'd with them and have way too many problems. That's why I'm looking to get outLast edited by Luckmaster; 10-26-2003 at 11:20 AM.
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10-26-2003, 01:28 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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level3 dumping someone because of spam, pot.. kettle.. black.
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10-26-2003, 08:39 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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rusko..you haven't dealt with CalPOP, I never understood how they had level3 to begin with...
If I'm not mistaken though, they are the level3 reseller. I'm not sure who they would be purchasing from if I'm wrong.
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10-26-2003, 08:50 PM #19Junior Guru Wannabe
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According to the guy I talked to, they got it thru another company. I don't know why he would lie.
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10-26-2003, 09:16 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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nick,
true, i make a point of not doing business with spammers. i guess im just weird like that.
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10-26-2003, 10:13 PM #21Aspiring Evangelist
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SBC/PacHell is not "up to something" - for a change.
SBC was only cleared to offer voice and data across the US last year. They are in the process of building their own nation wide network. It will take time for them to establish peering throughout the country. Until recently, PBI was purchasing transit from Sprint.
Calpop is one of the most clueless and dishonest providers on the planet. Avoid at all costs. Do a search on this and the dedicated forum for more info.
AFAIK, Mzima just sold off its colo business to focus on being a transit provider. They are expanding and should be adding additonal peers soon.
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10-27-2003, 04:00 PM #22Junior Guru
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Dragoon, do you know who Mzima sold their colo business off to? I can't find anything about it on their website.
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10-27-2003, 04:31 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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support@corporatecolo.com .... The president's name is Jon Goodman, if you are looking for colo on mzima bandwidth though, I'd recommend talking to InsiderHosting.com