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    Best host in Sweden that does not care about DMCA and has CPanel

    I am looking for a good reliable host in Sweden that has CPanel available and is cheap. I have small copyright issues and am trying to get away from DMCA as a result - I have no porn, no heavy stuff, or spamming etc just small issues with the DMCA.


    I need at least 25-30GB disk space and at least one TB bandwidth/month

    Shared hosting will be fine.

    If any one has any tips please <<snipped>> post it here.

    I do not want to spend more then a absolute maximum of $50.00 a month

    Thanks!
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    Is there any specific reason you want to choose Sweden? For your purpose I'd rather go with something like server.lu. They got a good peering and also offer virtual servers. The provider I'm thinking first about if I hear Sweden, would be Portlane. But they're not in your price range.
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    bahnhof.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Losvre View Post
    bahnhof.net
    Haha, yeah, this is definately the coolest one. Had that on my mind too, but didn't remember the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitnet View Post
    Is there any specific reason you want to choose Sweden? For your purpose I'd rather go with something like server.lu. They got a good peering and also offer virtual servers. The provider I'm thinking first about if I hear Sweden, would be Portlane. But they're not in your price range.
    Thanks for the replies, I say Sweden because from all my research I have found that Sweden is the most resistant to the DMCA PirateBay is there and many others that do not like DMCA go there too. There are other countries like Panama that are DMCA resistant (they could care less about DMCA) but they do not have good bandwidth at all in those places.

    If any one else has any suggestions please clue me in! I have been searching on my own, but am really getting frustrated trying to find a hosting company that will ignore the DMCA.

    Many places when I ask them they say the will but in their official posted TOS they say they will not. So it is a bit confusing for me. If any one can tell me from experience or from the grape vine what they know I will be very grateful!

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    Well, as I suggested, server.lu won't usually care about DMCA. bahnhof.net will surely be a great option too though.
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    Also many of the hosts I find do not reply to me or at least it has been over 2 days and have not received a reply... I like good communication, this is really important to me. but I right now I will take what I can get and I do not know what my options are I am now looking at bahnhof's site. thanks Losvre for that!

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    If you only ask them if they ignore DMCA takedown requests, they might not answer or not give you the answer you want to hear. That's because it always depends on "how bad" the DMCA requests are. For example, if you're running a torrent tracker or something like that, you'd really have to choose a location such as sweden. If you only host some kind of warez board, or even receive DMCA notices because of just a few images or something, most EU hosts won't care, but would still say they follow takedown requests.
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    thanks.

    No, I just have art and stuff like that nothing heavy... but western hosts like in the USA just pull the plug on someone if the DMCA even look at their customers in the wrong way it is insane!

    Totally guilty till proven innocent.

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    Hmm, if it's just that, you should be able to actually choose any EU host I think. In this case there are many much more cost-efficient options than something like Sweden. Have a look at the offers on: http://www.webtropia.com/en/, contact the support if you like their offers (they also offer cPanel) and describe your situation in details, don't just ask if they ignore DMCA notices. Because as I said, most hosts will think about torrents or stuff like that and simply say "no", but if you describe your situation, I think even Webtropia would be fine with that. At least I can say their network is very good, while their peering to the US isn't the best. You can also try the same strategy with http://www.netcup.de/ - they have their servers located at Hetzner's DC and their peering to the US is better than Webtropia's. Hetzner is also very well known around here, in case you want to search for reviews about their network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puresoul View Post
    Thanks for the replies, I say Sweden because from all my research I have found that Sweden is the most resistant to the DMCA PirateBay is there and many others that do not like DMCA go there too. There are other countries like Panama that are DMCA resistant (they could care less about DMCA) but they do not have good bandwidth at all in those places.
    You probably know this, but some of the Piratebay operators were taken to court in Sweden, and got sentenced. It's not some magical "break copyright law, get out of jail" country. Also some police tactics have been quite heavy-handed.

    Sweden likely eavesdrops Russian internet traffic and reports to US. This is just an example of the relations between countries. So if you step on the wrong toes, Swedes hear the message from US loud and clear.

    That having been said, probably there are several European hosts that will just throw a silly DMCA message out. Apparently this kind of hosting is something that people actually do search on Google. Tried it a while ago, when there was a similar thread in WHT. Would not go with the hosts that such a search brings up, though.
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    We made our own original work and someone copied us, but then claimed we copied them. Now Host American says... Oh well, tough sh*t .... No matter if you're right or wrong, you need to take it down and fight it in court if you feel strongly about it.

    Which we would, but we didn't feel like taking down our own stuff; just because someone else was being a dick. So onto prq.se we went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVisitors View Post
    prq.se

    We made our own original work and someone copied us, but then claimed we copied them. Now Host American says... Oh well, tough sh*t .... No matter if you're right or wrong, you need to take it down and fight it in court if you feel strongly about it.

    Which we would, but we didn't feel like taking down our own stuff; just because someone else was being a dick. So onto prq.se we went.
    Yes, it is guilty to you pay tuns of money to prove your innocent in court, such is the way of the world these days... I was shut down for posting public domain stuff and some envious dorks sent a DMCA to my host. So I sent a letter (http://www.durangobill.com/Fight_DMCA_Abuse.html) to them saying it is a bogus accusation and my content is public domain stuff. But my host pulled the plug on me anyway... they told me to take down the content in question and go to court

    I checked out prq.se but they seemed to be much more expensive then most other people. Also I do not need VPS or dedicated or whatever. I just need a simple shared hosting plan. I only got like $50max a month to spend on this. my old host was like $8.00 a month or something. But now I got to fork it out for off shore hosting to keep up the site and I do not make any money on the site. It is full of free downloadable spiritual stuff like books, art, audio etc and I have invested several thousand of dollars on the audio recording equipment out of my own pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Soul View Post
    Also many of the hosts I find do not reply to me or at least it has been over 2 days and have not received a reply... I like good communication, this is really important to me. but I right now I will take what I can get and I do not know what my options are I am now looking at bahnhof's site. thanks Losvre for that!
    you can try bahnhof.se as well by using a translator

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitnet View Post
    Well, as I suggested, server.lu won't usually care about DMCA. bahnhof.net will surely be a great option too though.
    You said they don't care DMCA but they have no Cpanel only plask

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    Quote Originally Posted by toshost View Post
    You said they don't care DMCA but they have no Cpanel only plask
    Getting a small VPS and a cPanel license isn't that hard, there are enough resellers who sell cPanel licenses really cheap and it can be installed by simply executing the install script on any VPS, so that shouldn't be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitnet View Post
    Getting a small VPS and a cPanel license isn't that hard, there are enough resellers who sell cPanel licenses really cheap and it can be installed by simply executing the install script on any VPS, so that shouldn't be an issue.
    I did not know this. Could you point me in the right direction on how to go about doing this? or a website to get the CPanel my self?

    Edit - Just googled it and found this: https://www.buycpanel.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Soul View Post
    I did not know this. Could you point me in the right direction on how to go about doing this? or a website to get the CPanel my self?
    Really? Okay. The official homepage is cpanel.net, but the pricing might be too expensive for you. So what I suggest, would be:

    1.) Rent a VPS and choose CentOS 6 64bit minimal as OS
    2.) Get a cPanel license from a reseller such as http://licensepal.com/products/cpanel.php
    3.) Login to your VPS through SSH using a client such as PuTTY
    4.) Execute "wget http://httpupdate.cpanel.net/latest && sh latest" and follow on-screen instructions (more information about installing cPanel here.)
    5.) Have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Soul View Post
    I say Sweden because from all my research I have found that Sweden is the most resistant to the DMCA PirateBay is there and many others that do not like DMCA go there too. There are other countries like Panama that are DMCA resistant (they could care less about DMCA) but they do not have good bandwidth at all in those places.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30HF-m_I6yY

    Yeah no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaky View Post
    Yes, but that didn't happen over night.... It took about 5+ years before the courts in Sweden would even touch The Pirate Bay. And even after going through all the courts BS, The Pirate Bay is still online and just finish celebrating its 12th or 13th Birthday.

    Its almost as old as Google (Google being a few years older)

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    And yet the ultimate outcome is arrests, asset seizure, and massive legal fees.

    They'll find you eventually. There's not many countries that aren't Berne signatories - and the ones that aren't you don't want to host in anyway. Also not for nothing but that was back then - they're much quicker on this stuff now, and the US govt is much happier to seize domains and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaky View Post
    And yet the ultimate outcome is arrests, asset seizure, and massive legal fees.

    They'll find you eventually. There's not many countries that aren't Berne signatories - and the ones that aren't you don't want to host in anyway.
    Difference of an opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVisitors View Post
    Difference of an opinion
    Some difference

    Certainly for legitimate business, best case it isn't worth the hassle. Moral hazard it may be but that doesn't change the reality of the situation - any company offering to ignore DMCA needs better legal advice. Certainly inside the EU/US/Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaky View Post
    Some difference

    Certainly for legitimate business, best case it isn't worth the hassle. Moral hazard it may be but that doesn't change the reality of the situation - any company offering to ignore DMCA needs better legal advice. Certainly inside the EU/US/Canada.
    Again difference of opinion

    Some people are willing to fight a moral, just, and ethical battle on a legal front. If you're in the right, why submit to some internet or legal bully, who is using an unjust and unethical system to abuse you?! I'd rather and have made a stand.

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    The thing is, there are different shades of gray - You are talking about one of the darkest (or lightest depending on what side of the fence your on) players. PB. They art ticking off every BIG company out there not just one little guy after another completely tiny guy. So it is a different thing. Those multi million dollar companys can aford to play games in international court and make Police raids on servers. but joe blow that no one has heard about will most likely just send some leters issue a warrant and thats it. Also on that same note when the big illuminati one world government corporate scumbags chased down PB PB replied to them by saying:

    "Instead of simply recommending that you sodomize yourself with a retractable baton, let me recommend a specific model - the ASP 21". The previous lawyers tried to use a cheaper brand, but it broke during the action."..."t's OK with you that we post this message on
    http://static.thepiratebay.org/legal/ ? Because I just did, and I'm so afraid of you and your nice titles and shiny offices :-(."

    So most people are not up against multi million dollar companies. And then blatantly telling their big shot overly paid affluent lawyer that probably is frinds with a few judges to F_ck them selves with a club.... although it was funniy to read. I got to respect the guy He is fearless. kudos to him. And the world is in debt to him for all the torrents. Every one loves Robin Hood but the villains.

    In this thread I am talking about little negligible stuff. Some one with a tiny hole in the wall website with just a fery few minor issues and the only people who will care is some whole in the wall company that is not even standing on solid legal ground themselves. I am not talking about the whole sale facilitating of illegal mainstream software by the millions on an international basis and being the most famous torrent site for it. So if any one has any info in that regard I would be very grateful. Please PM me or post it here.

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