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10-28-2003, 01:19 PM #1Disabled
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Beat This Price?
http://www.colomachine.com/Colomachine-50B.htm
Does anyone know a company that can beat $399 for that machine?
I'll be ordering a couple off the bat.
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10-28-2003, 01:36 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Talk to Brian at rackmountsetc.com (sales@rackmountsetc.com) keep talking to him and eventually you might be able to get him under that price
But keep in mind that price isn't everything, I have one of the colomachine.com machines, and I honestly was not impressed, compared to the rackmountsetc machines.
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10-28-2003, 01:50 PM #3Disabled
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What is the advantage of rackmounts boxes over colomachines?
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10-28-2003, 01:54 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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rackmounts are built better, they are more customized, better cooling...also you can get the 14" deep (half deepth) 1U that is equal to the full 1U that colomachine sells.
Colomachine.com's are just poorly built, they come with a white cdrom in a blackcase, I mean, how tacky is that?
Either way, I stress tested both and rackmounts' were just better, also the difference of quality hardware vs. whatever they could get cheapest.
If i'm mistaken the colomachine.com's come with 1.3celeron but the motherboard only supports 1.2 so they underclock them
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10-28-2003, 01:55 PM #5Disabled
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What the hell for real?
They underclock their CPUs?
How accurate is that information?
If thats true theyre off my list as far as the celerons go.
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10-28-2003, 02:03 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Ask them (if they wil tell you..) the version of the motherboard they use, it's a MSI if i'm not mistaken but I can't remember the model #, than check the site for that motherboard, and it'll list max CPU at like 1.2ghz. they advertise a 1.3ghz, hence to make the cpu work on the motherboard, they would have to underclock it.
I could be wrong, but on the unit I had, this seemed like a legit claim.
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10-28-2003, 02:13 PM #7Disabled
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Try this guy. They made all the server for Hotmail
John Wu
Sales Manager
King Star Computer, Inc.
1259 Reamwood Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
TEL: (408) 736-8590
FAX: (408) 736-4151
john@kingstarusa.com
www.kingstarusa.com
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10-28-2003, 03:38 PM #8Disabled
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I contacted colomachine and received the following:
"No, they are running on Celeron at both 1.3GHz or 1.4GHz processing speed."
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"I don't know where you get the false information. It is not true that you
need to lower the speed of the CPU. You can confirm this fact from MSI.
They should be able to tell you more technical detail about their product.
http://www.msicomputer.com
Jack Lee
ColoMachine "
I'll order a bunch and see how they work out
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10-28-2003, 03:44 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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Interesting, well I'll have to speak to my source and see who is giving the false information. When you get your machines, let me know what model they are. I'd be interested in finding out again...I'm no longer with the company of which I purchased the test colomachine.com server for, so I can't know for sure.
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10-28-2003, 05:06 PM #10WHT Addict
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If a motherboard only supports up to a 12x multiplier, and you get a cpu that required a 13x multiplier...it should either not work at all, or work fine. The cpu will force the multiplier, you can't choose a different one.
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10-28-2003, 05:08 PM #11WHT Addict
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Just checked their site...looks like they're the only ones to support RadHat Linux. Now, that's rad!
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10-29-2003, 02:37 AM #12Junior Guru
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Originally posted by LinuxRigs
Just checked their site...looks like they're the only ones to support RadHat Linux. Now, that's rad!
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10-29-2003, 07:54 PM #13Newbie
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Originally posted by nickn
rackmounts are built better, they are more customized, better cooling...also you can get the 14" deep (half deepth) 1U that is equal to the full 1U that colomachine sells.
Colomachine.com's are just poorly built, they come with a white cdrom in a blackcase, I mean, how tacky is that?
Either way, I stress tested both and rackmounts' were just better, also the difference of quality hardware vs. whatever they could get cheapest.
If i'm mistaken the colomachine.com's come with 1.3celeron but the motherboard only supports 1.2 so they underclock them
The only problem I have with them is getting them to ship my servers faster.
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10-29-2003, 07:57 PM #14Newbie
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Originally posted by nickn
Interesting, well I'll have to speak to my source and see who is giving the false information. When you get your machines, let me know what model they are. I'd be interested in finding out again...I'm no longer with the company of which I purchased the test colomachine.com server for, so I can't know for sure.
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10-29-2003, 11:49 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Who gives a crap what color a cdrom is, specially if your just looking for something cheap and decent quality/parts. Its not like your buying a new car where everyone can see it, things are sitting in a datacenter where hardly anyone can see them.
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11-02-2003, 05:04 AM #16CISSP-ISSMP, CISA
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More to the point, I don't ever ship servers with CD-ROMs in them.
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11-02-2003, 08:07 AM #17Web Hosting Master
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hostpak,
yes I have used colomachine's servers before, as well as servers from numerous other sources.
Unfortunately I can't provide pictures as I'm no longer physically close to them, however I can say the first issue I had with them is they took much longer than any of the other vendors, and in the end with shipping, they weren't cheaper. Second issue was the fact that it was DOA when first arrived, so I emailed customer service and never received a response. After a few hours of playing with it I was able to find out what caused it (loose cable) and get it to boot up, only to find that it was two 256mb chips of RAM (lame.) and a MSI motherboard that like I said, only supported the 1.2ghz
Not to mention the white CDROM, which I still to this day believe is overly tacky, nothing that's going to influence the performance of the server, however it's not what I would want in my datacenter..
If you like ordering from someone who literally sees you as a number, cuts corners everywhere possible in order to provide you with the lowest prices, and in the end does provide you with low prices than go with colomachine....
On the same token, I wouldn't be caught dead with breadracks and towers
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11-02-2003, 03:12 PM #18Newbie
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Originally posted by nickn
hostpak,
yes I have used colomachine's servers before, as well as servers from numerous other sources.
Unfortunately I can't provide pictures as I'm no longer physically close to them, however I can say the first issue I had with them is they took much longer than any of the other vendors, and in the end with shipping, they weren't cheaper. Second issue was the fact that it was DOA when first arrived, so I emailed customer service and never received a response. After a few hours of playing with it I was able to find out what caused it (loose cable) and get it to boot up, only to find that it was two 256mb chips of RAM (lame.) and a MSI motherboard that like I said, only supported the 1.2ghz
Not to mention the white CDROM, which I still to this day believe is overly tacky, nothing that's going to influence the performance of the server, however it's not what I would want in my datacenter..
If you like ordering from someone who literally sees you as a number, cuts corners everywhere possible in order to provide you with the lowest prices, and in the end does provide you with low prices than go with colomachine....
On the same token, I wouldn't be caught dead with breadracks and towers
1. The MSI motherboards (MS-6368) do support 1.3Ghz or 1.4Ghz Celeron processors with Tualatin core. What you are talking about is Intel Celeron processors with Coppermine core. I confirmed with Colomachine that every $399 unit shipped is based on Intel Celeron processor with Tulatin core.
MSI-6368 Support List
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ail.php?UID=21
2. As for customer service, they always promptly answered my e-mail. However, it does not mean that I always get what I wanted. (Ship my orders faster).
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11-02-2003, 03:48 PM #19Web Hosting Master
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We ordered in the early days, however our 1.3ghz only ran 1.2ghz, period end of discussion regarding that, it also had a white cdrom, you claim they ship black.
As for number two, I simply didn't get a reply, how you are going to debate this with me, I'm not sure, so please just don't bother.
I was one of the first orders colomachine had back in the day when they went live. I haven't used them lately, maybe they got their game together.
Why would I lie? I have no financial or otherwise interest in any hardware suppliers, nor do I currently use any hardware suppliers who would even remotely be in the same market as colomachine (I use quality hardware, kthnx.)
Anyhow, this thread is going nowhere other than you producing completely non valid claims as there is absolutely no way you can tell me what hardware configuration I received.
Unless you can show otherwise (break into the datacenter and examine it?) please lay back on the alligations.
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11-02-2003, 03:55 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...ht=colomachine
You know, since I have such a motive to hate on colomachine for going on 3 months now.
This is a little better documented thread regarding colomachine.
Anyway, it seems others haven't had problems, maybe mine was a one time thing, however I never did receive a response to my RMA on the DOA.
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11-02-2003, 09:08 PM #21Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by nickn
We ordered in the early days, however our 1.3ghz only ran 1.2ghz, period end of discussion regarding that, it also had a white cdrom, you claim they ship black.
As for number two, I simply didn't get a reply, how you are going to debate this with me, I'm not sure, so please just don't bother.
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