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09-25-2003, 02:35 PM #1Junior Guru
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Copyright infringement?
I know it's illegal to go to Dell's website and clip an image of a server to use on your site, But suppose I own a Dell server and take a picture of it myself and use it in the background of a logo i'm creating. Is that copyright infringement? I have a really sweet idea for a client's logo and the image already taken, but I wouldn't want my client to get a notice of infringement after I bill him...I don't think they'd like that too much. It's not a blatant "hey this is a dell server" type image...as far as anyone would know, it's just a computer.
What do you think?John DeLutri
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09-25-2003, 03:33 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Ask Dell.. they will soon tell you.
http://www.dell.com/us/en/gen/misc/p...007_policy.htm
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09-25-2003, 04:22 PM #3Evenly Divided
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I was wondering this myself, because I want to get a nice digital camera and take some shots to upload to istockphoto.com, but I was worried about the same thing.
Example, can I take a picture of my car and upload it for others to download?
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09-25-2003, 07:51 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Mekhu, that's legal.
To the thread starter, just take a pic of one of your servers . Saves you some trouble.
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09-25-2003, 07:55 PM #5Junior Guru
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That's my point...my servers are Dell servers. If I take a pic of one of my servers was the original question.....I went to dells website and all the talk about is stuff from their site...not pictures I take of dell equipment I already own.
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09-25-2003, 08:36 PM #6Web Hosting Evangelist
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No, its 100% legal.
You own the equipment, so if you take a picture of it, YOU own that intellectual property.
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09-25-2003, 10:54 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Agreed perfectly legal for you to photograph the server and use your own creation so long as it is not an apparent attempt to recreate the image of another.
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09-25-2003, 11:03 PM #8Junior Guru
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
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10-01-2003, 04:10 AM #9WHT Addict
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The copyright on a picture is applied to the image itself, not the objects inside. What's being protected is the photographer's choice of light, angle...etc, so any picturre *you* take is your own work, regardless of what's in it.
Dell's online policy applies to the pictures taken by their photographers...not what's in them.
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10-01-2003, 04:33 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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Tho when dealing with Dell in a legal way, one should also be careful. I know an employee who refers to their legal department as 'that place with the man-eating sharks'.
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10-01-2003, 05:10 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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The problem with that is if you take a picture of a dell server and the dell logo appears in the picture where are you placed then as you have a registered trademark of another company in your picture?
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10-01-2003, 06:39 PM #12Junior Guru Wannabe
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Dell spends $100,000's a year for product placement in movies and TV shows/etc, and millions more I bet on plain old advertising.
I'd wager as long as you aren't trying to infer that you ARE Dell, or you have a deal with Dell, or you and Dell are business partners, etc, they probably wouldn't mind the free publicity..
You should probably ask them, tho.
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10-01-2003, 06:59 PM #13Web Hosting Evangelist
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Yep, you shouldn't have a problem at all if you take the photo yourself. Guess I learned something in college afterall
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10-02-2003, 08:50 AM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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I'd suggest airbrushing out the Dell logos on the picture you take.
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10-02-2003, 06:12 PM #15Junior Guru
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Originally posted by Bullschmidt
I'd suggest airbrushing out the Dell logos on the picture you take.John DeLutri
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10-02-2003, 08:15 PM #16Evenly Divided
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Thanks for answering my questions guys!