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11-01-2011, 03:41 PM #1Hello World
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SSL Without Dedicated IP?
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Whiles looking around one of my regular blogs (bobcares blog) I stumbled upon this: http://bobcares.com/blog/?p=1012
It appears you can run an SSL for each site with needing a dedicated IP for each domain
What do you think?Last edited by Server Management; 11-01-2011 at 03:44 PM.
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11-01-2011, 03:46 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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11-01-2011, 03:50 PM #3Retired Moderator
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Yes... it'll be a lot easier when cPanel implement it.
As I understood this, the issue was always browser implementation. Just reading that article on bobcares, I thought to myself "actually, it's only very old browsers that have a problem with this, so it should be basically OK."
But then click through to the Wikipedia article bobcares links to. I spotted two big problems. 1. It's not supported at all on WinXP with IE. Vista never really took off, but Windows 7 is only just beginning to overtake XP as the Windows OS of choice. We're far from the point where we can say XP users don't matter. 2. These days mobile browser matter a big deal: iOS, Opera Mini / Mobile, etc. all need to support this, and whilst many mobile browsers do it's far from clear that the support is yet wide enough.
Give it 18 months to 2 years, this could be a serious prospect.Not as active on WHT as I used to be, but still drop in and receive email notifications from here.
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11-01-2011, 03:52 PM #4Junior Guru
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Considering the shortage/restrictions of IP addresses it can only be a good thing, if it becomes widely supported.
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11-01-2011, 04:01 PM #5Hello World
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11-01-2011, 04:09 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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already running most of my personal sites like this, have been for a very long time.
i don't use a control panel though. don't know how cpanel supports it or not
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Thanks for the link. Maybe certain industries/companies are dragging their feet on this becuase they will lose a ton of income. Just a thought.
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11-01-2011, 05:47 PM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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If cPanel is releasing a an updates which support this, then it will be something nice!
At least, we do not need to tell customers to buy a dedicated IP when they want to install a verified cert.
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I have heard (but not tested to confirm) that FireFox on Windows XP has the same problem accessing SIN based shared IP SSL sites that IE on Windows XP has, but Chrome on Windows XP does not have the problem.
Has anybody tested SIN support in FireFox on Windows XP? Please share your experiences. Thanks.█ No Support Linux Hosting ● Bargain cPanel Hosting ● Experts Only
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11-01-2011, 10:21 PM #13Hello World
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See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle.
Mainstream support ended April 2009 (no more general purpose fixes / improvements)
Extended support runs until April 8 2014. We've got 2 and a half years yet before MSFT stop issuing security patches for XP.
And as this graph shows, Windows 7 has only recently overtaken Windows XP as the OS you're most likely to find for a visitor to your website. It's far too early yet to disregard Win XP users - unless you mean to exclude 38.45% of your visitors.
Also: What happens with this kind of SSL if someone comes with a non-compliant browser. If the site code is trying to force SSL on a certain page but the browser is not sending the hostname to tell the server which certificate to send, then what?... status code 500? "bad request"? It'd be a brave business that tried to save a few dollars a year on a dedicated IP in this way.Not as active on WHT as I used to be, but still drop in and receive email notifications from here.
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11-02-2011, 10:48 AM #16Hello World
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I,d say that WinXP is the best OS that microsoft has ever released, Of course the likes of Win7 will overtake but Win7 is based off the flagship WinXP anyway.
After the lark with Vista why not base something off the flagship XP they should of done it with Vista to be honest unless it was some marketing hype gone wrong...
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Not until 2014.
Also just because something is EOL by the manufacturer doesn't mean that everyone jumps on-board with the latest and greatest. Especially when businesses have to contend with compatibility of third party applications that they have no control over, plus training staff to use the new systems.
Most businesses I support have a 5 year time frame before they purchase new hardware. So Windows XP isn't being phased out for a considerable time frame (At least another 3-4 years)
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