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    Ecatel = Colinks = Iqarus | Links with Russian Business Network (RBN)

    Please do NOT reply without reading the whole post.
    Yes, this is probably my first and last thread about reviews about any service provider. I personally hate bashing people and always tend to resolve matters on my own with providers/customers without involving 3rd party (current/past customers and providers can acknowledge this) but this time its gone way out of the line and this thread is purely meant as a negative review of Ecatel or Colinks or Iqarus or whatever you call this slimy set of people. I am done speaking soft and trying to act nicely to them.
    What made me go this far? If a provider accepts the fact that he is wrong after proving countless number of times, I would not make this thread. Heck, I would not make this thread if they did NOT agree that its their fault. This case is gone so far that these people blame me (personally) for all the crap that they have dug. Now its time to bury them in the same pit.
    They have ripped me of for around 5000 EUR worth of business every month. I won't go into details but the reason for cancellation is described later in this thread. They have ignored all later attempts of contact after terminating services with us. So I have no clue as to what their problem was.
    Coming to the thread title now... does anyone know about the fact the Ecatel was formerly known as Iqarus and before that as Colinks. If there are any senior/old members on this forum who can comment on it, I am sure they can provide quite a number of incidents where this Company has scammed 100+ number of clients.
    Here are few links right here on WHT that shows Iqarus's scams:http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...9 100s of threads claiming their history to be fraudulent
    For proof here is one:http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68266
    Quote:


    213.202.214.0/32
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:19:58
    SBL44871 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks = as29073.net
    89.248.160.0/20
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:20:11
    SBL44870 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks hosting spammers


    At this point it is very easy to tell what kind of a shaddy organization this is. Sending SPAM emails consecutively and become known for it... hmmm.
    Okay, lets all assume that now Ecatel is a clean organization. May be the bad habits have been left to die with the two old fraudulent Companies. But NO! They are the same set of people and have turned even worse... Now they are in direct relationship with the a Russian cyber-gang known as the Russian Business Network (RBN). I make a big claim here because the RBN is probably wanted by most law-enforcement authories around the world. You can read more about RBN here, here and here (please read this in particular).Now here are my findings depicting RBN and Ecatel's affiliation:http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks...7/1649032.aspxhttp://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2008/10...sesthosts.htmlhttp://maipiugromozon.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.htmlhttp://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/421Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    You can just Google "rbn ecatel" and find thousands of results deeming this organizations links with the RBN. I am now not the sole person having these facts. Most people involved with networking security know about this and now its time for the layman to know too.
    At this point I proved that it is safer to keep away from Ecatel so that:
    - you can stay away from all RBN related prosectutions
    - prevent yourself from being scammed (colinks/iqarus quote)
    I know pretty well how Ecatel is going to react/reply to this thread. Obviously for starters put up a pile of garbage info they will generate on me with no factual evidence whatsoever (they have gone far enough as to mention I have links with RBN and thus my rant here). AND completely ignoring to defend themselves of the claims I have made above (its their specality on escaping such blames).
    I urge everyone of you to first ask Ecatel for a response for the above claims and then (if they last that long; they can open a new thread, WHT loves good content) they can hammer me with all the garbage they will pile up. Notice here that, all my proof of evidence is directly quote from 3rd party reliable websites and not from my email inbox that only I can verify. Ofcourse Ecatel will ignore this statement and continue to hammer me with falsified information, but I have another reliable 3rd party website that I can use as protection (as atleast he says the situation the same way as I do).http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    I hope you all make proper and informed decisions. Oh btw, according to Dutch law (or perhaps every country's law) an Internet Service Provider needs to have an agreement with their client about what they are allowed to run on their network (known as Terms of Service/Acceptable Usage Policy) and Ecatel has none. These people can be shutdown easily because of just this, forget all the RBN and crap!
    Its 4:30 AM here. Will go and get a cup of coffee and wait for replies. Will definite get my lawyer working on these guys. I am hell determined to close this case for good. And extremely sorry for the long thread...
    Regards,
    Ganesh





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    Ecatel = Colinks = Iqarus | Links with Russian Business Network (RBN)

    Please do NOT reply without reading the whole post.
    Yes, this is probably my first and last thread about reviews about any service provider. I personally hate bashing people and always tend to resolve matters on my own with providers/customers without involving 3rd party (current/past customers and providers can acknowledge this) but this time its gone way out of the line and this thread is purely meant as a negative review of Ecatel or Colinks or Iqarus or whatever you call this slimy set of people. I am done speaking soft and trying to act nicely to them.
    What made me go this far? If a provider accepts the fact that he is wrong after proving countless number of times, I would not make this thread. Heck, I would not make this thread if they did NOT agree that its their fault. This case is gone so far that these people blame me (personally) for all the crap that they have dug. Now its time to bury them in the same pit.
    They have ripped me of for around 5000 EUR worth of business every month. I won't go into details but the reason for cancellation is described later in this thread. They have ignored all later attempts of contact after terminating services with us. So I have no clue as to what their problem was.
    Coming to the thread title now... does anyone know about the fact the Ecatel was formerly known as Iqarus and before that as Colinks. If there are any senior/old members on this forum who can comment on it, I am sure they can provide quite a number of incidents where this Company has scammed 100+ number of clients.
    Here are few links right here on WHT that shows Iqarus's scams:http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...9 100s of threads claiming their history to be fraudulent
    For proof here is one:http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68266
    Quote:


    213.202.214.0/32
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:19:58
    SBL44871 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks = as29073.net
    89.248.160.0/20
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:20:11
    SBL44870 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks hosting spammers


    At this point it is very easy to tell what kind of a shaddy organization this is. Sending SPAM emails consecutively and become known for it... hmmm.
    Okay, lets all assume that now Ecatel is a clean organization. May be the bad habits have been left to die with the two old fraudulent Companies. But NO! They are the same set of people and have turned even worse... Now they are in direct relationship with the a Russian cyber-gang known as the Russian Business Network (RBN). I make a big claim here because the RBN is probably wanted by most law-enforcement authories around the world. You can read more about RBN here, here and here (please read this in particular).Now here are my findings depicting RBN and Ecatel's affiliation:http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks...7/1649032.aspxhttp://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2008/10...sesthosts.htmlhttp://maipiugromozon.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.htmlhttp://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/421Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    You can just Google "rbn ecatel" and find thousands of results deeming this organizations links with the RBN. I am now not the sole person having these facts. Most people involved with networking security know about this and now its time for the layman to know too.
    At this point I proved that it is safer to keep away from Ecatel so that:
    - you can stay away from all RBN related prosectutions
    - prevent yourself from being scammed (colinks/iqarus quote)
    I know pretty well how Ecatel is going to react/reply to this thread. Obviously for starters put up a pile of garbage info they will generate on me with no factual evidence whatsoever (they have gone far enough as to mention I have links with RBN and thus my rant here). AND completely ignoring to defend themselves of the claims I have made above (its their specality on escaping such blames).
    I urge everyone of you to first ask Ecatel for a response for the above claims and then (if they last that long; they can open a new thread, WHT loves good content) they can hammer me with all the garbage they will pile up. Notice here that, all my proof of evidence is directly quote from 3rd party reliable websites and not from my email inbox that only I can verify. Ofcourse Ecatel will ignore this statement and continue to hammer me with falsified information, but I have another reliable 3rd party website that I can use as protection (as atleast he says the situation the same way as I do).http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    I hope you all make proper and informed decisions. Oh btw, according to Dutch law (or perhaps every country's law) an Internet Service Provider needs to have an agreement with their client about what they are allowed to run on their network (known as Terms of Service/Acceptable Usage Policy) and Ecatel has none. These people can be shutdown easily because of just this, forget all the RBN and crap!
    Its 4:30 AM here. Will go and get a cup of coffee and wait for replies. Will definite get my lawyer working on these guys. I am hell determined to close this case for good. And extremely sorry for the long thread...
    Regards,
    Ganesh





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    Please do NOT reply without reading the whole post.
    Yes, this is probably my first and last thread about reviews about any service provider. I personally hate bashing people and always tend to resolve matters on my own with providers/customers without involving 3rd party (current/past customers and providers can acknowledge this) but this time its gone way out of the line and this thread is purely meant as a negative review of Ecatel or Colinks or Iqarus or whatever you call this slimy set of people. I am done speaking soft and trying to act nicely to them.
    What made me go this far? If a provider accepts the fact that he is wrong after proving countless number of times, I would not make this thread. Heck, I would not make this thread if they did NOT agree that its their fault. This case is gone so far that these people blame me (personally) for all the crap that they have dug. Now its time to bury them in the same pit.
    They have ripped me of for around 5000 EUR worth of business every month. I won't go into details but the reason for cancellation is described later in this thread. They have ignored all later attempts of contact after terminating services with us. So I have no clue as to what their problem was.
    Coming to the thread title now... does anyone know about the fact the Ecatel was formerly known as Iqarus and before that as Colinks. If there are any senior/old members on this forum who can comment on it, I am sure they can provide quite a number of incidents where this Company has scammed 100+ number of clients.
    Here are few links right here on WHT that shows Iqarus's scams:
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=5054479&postcount=11
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=5028016&postcount=4
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4504920&postcount=4
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4408192&postcount=15
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4513640&postcount=13
    www.webhostingtalk.nl (http://www.webhostingtalk.nl) -> you'll love it when you do a search on these fellas; 100s of threads claiming their history to be fraudulent
    For proof here is one:
    http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68266
    213.202.214.0/32
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:19:58
    SBL44871 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks = as29073.net
    89.248.160.0/20
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:20:11
    SBL44870 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks hosting spammersAt this point it is very easy to tell what kind of a shaddy organization this is. Sending SPAM emails consecutively and become known for it... hmmm.
    Okay, lets all assume that now Ecatel is a clean organization. May be the bad habits have been left to die with the two old fraudulent Companies. But NO! They are the same set of people and have turned even worse... Now they are in direct relationship with the a Russian cyber-gang known as the Russian Business Network (RBN). I make a big claim here because the RBN is probably wanted by most law-enforcement authories around the world. You can read more about RBN here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Business_Network), here (http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/02/rbn-extortion-and-denial-of-service.html) and here (http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/08/rbn-atrivo-cyber-crime-usa.html) (please read this in particular).
    Now here are my findings depicting RBN and Ecatel's affiliation:
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2008/09/27/1649032.aspx
    http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2008/10/movement-by-estdomainsesthosts.html
    http://maipiugromozon.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html
    http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/421
    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=739238&page=12) which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):
    http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    You can just Google "rbn ecatel" and find thousands of results deeming this organizations links with the RBN. I am now not the sole person having these facts. Most people involved with networking security know about this and now its time for the layman to know too.
    At this point I proved that it is safer to keep away from Ecatel so that:
    - you can stay away from all RBN related prosectutions
    - prevent yourself from being scammed (colinks/iqarus quote)
    I know pretty well how Ecatel is going to react/reply to this thread. Obviously for starters put up a pile of garbage info they will generate on me with no factual evidence whatsoever (they have gone far enough as to mention I have links with RBN and thus my rant here). AND completely ignoring to defend themselves of the claims I have made above (its their specality on escaping such blames).
    I urge everyone of you to first ask Ecatel for a response for the above claims and then (if they last that long; they can open a new thread, WHT loves good content) they can hammer me with all the garbage they will pile up. Notice here that, all my proof of evidence is directly quote from 3rd party reliable websites and not from my email inbox that only I can verify. Ofcourse Ecatel will ignore this statement and continue to hammer me with falsified information, but I have another reliable 3rd party website that I can use as protection (as atleast he says the situation the same way as I do).
    http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    I hope you all make proper and informed decisions. Oh btw, according to Dutch law (or perhaps every country's law) an Internet Service Provider needs to have an agreement with their client about what they are allowed to run on their network (known as Terms of Service/Acceptable Usage Policy) and Ecatel has none. These people can be shutdown easily because of just this, forget all the RBN and crap!
    Its 4:30 AM here. Will go and get a cup of coffee and wait for replies. Will definite get my lawyer working on these guys. I am hell determined to close this case for good. And extremely sorry for the long thread...
    Regards,
    Ganesh

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    Please do NOT reply without reading the whole post.
    Yes, this is probably my first and last thread about reviews about any service provider. I personally hate bashing people and always tend to resolve matters on my own with providers/customers without involving 3rd party (current/past customers and providers can acknowledge this) but this time its gone way out of the line and this thread is purely meant as a negative review of Ecatel or Colinks or Iqarus or whatever you call this slimy set of people. I am done speaking soft and trying to act nicely to them.
    What made me go this far? If a provider accepts the fact that he is wrong after proving countless number of times, I would not make this thread. Heck, I would not make this thread if they did NOT agree that its their fault. This case is gone so far that these people blame me (personally) for all the crap that they have dug. Now its time to bury them in the same pit.
    They have ripped me of for around 5000 EUR worth of business every month. I won't go into details but the reason for cancellation is described later in this thread. They have ignored all later attempts of contact after terminating services with us. So I have no clue as to what their problem was.
    Coming to the thread title now... does anyone know about the fact the Ecatel was formerly known as Iqarus and before that as Colinks. If there are any senior/old members on this forum who can comment on it, I am sure they can provide quite a number of incidents where this Company has scammed 100+ number of clients.
    Here are few links right here on WHT that shows Iqarus's scams:
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=5054479&postcount=11
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=5028016&postcount=4
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4504920&postcount=4
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4408192&postcount=15
    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpost.php?p=4513640&postcount=13
    www.webhostingtalk.nl (http://www.webhostingtalk.nl) -> you'll love it when you do a search on these fellas; 100s of threads claiming their history to be fraudulent
    For proof here is one:
    http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68266
    213.202.214.0/32
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:19:58
    SBL44871 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks = as29073.net
    89.248.160.0/20
    Removed ecatel.net SR04
    2008-09-28 21:20:11
    SBL44870 ECATEL-AS AS29073 = iqarus.com = Colinks hosting spammersAt this point it is very easy to tell what kind of a shaddy organization this is. Sending SPAM emails consecutively and become known for it... hmmm.
    Okay, lets all assume that now Ecatel is a clean organization. May be the bad habits have been left to die with the two old fraudulent Companies. But NO! They are the same set of people and have turned even worse... Now they are in direct relationship with the a Russian cyber-gang known as the Russian Business Network (RBN). I make a big claim here because the RBN is probably wanted by most law-enforcement authories around the world. You can read more about RBN here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Business_Network), here (http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/02/rbn-extortion-and-denial-of-service.html) and here (http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/08/rbn-atrivo-cyber-crime-usa.html) (please read this in particular).
    Now here are my findings depicting RBN and Ecatel's affiliation:
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2008/09/27/1649032.aspx
    http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2008/10/movement-by-estdomainsesthosts.html
    http://maipiugromozon.blogspot.com/2008_09_01_archive.html
    http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/421
    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=739238&page=12) which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):
    http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    You can just Google "rbn ecatel" and find thousands of results deeming this organizations links with the RBN. I am now not the sole person having these facts. Most people involved with networking security know about this and now its time for the layman to know too.
    At this point I proved that it is safer to keep away from Ecatel so that:
    - you can stay away from all RBN related prosectutions
    - prevent yourself from being scammed (colinks/iqarus quote)
    I know pretty well how Ecatel is going to react/reply to this thread. Obviously for starters put up a pile of garbage info they will generate on me with no factual evidence whatsoever (they have gone far enough as to mention I have links with RBN and thus my rant here). AND completely ignoring to defend themselves of the claims I have made above (its their specality on escaping such blames).
    I urge everyone of you to first ask Ecatel for a response for the above claims and then (if they last that long; they can open a new thread, WHT loves good content) they can hammer me with all the garbage they will pile up. Notice here that, all my proof of evidence is directly quote from 3rd party reliable websites and not from my email inbox that only I can verify. Ofcourse Ecatel will ignore this statement and continue to hammer me with falsified information, but I have another reliable 3rd party website that I can use as protection (as atleast he says the situation the same way as I do).
    http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    I hope you all make proper and informed decisions. Oh btw, according to Dutch law (or perhaps every country's law) an Internet Service Provider needs to have an agreement with their client about what they are allowed to run on their network (known as Terms of Service/Acceptable Usage Policy) and Ecatel has none. These people can be shutdown easily because of just this, forget all the RBN and crap!
    Its 4:30 AM here. Will go and get a cup of coffee and wait for replies. Will definite get my lawyer working on these guys. I am hell determined to close this case for good. And extremely sorry for the long thread...
    Regards,
    Ganesh

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    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ganesh-rao



    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333



    These IPs host SpamBots too:
    89.248.172.26
    93.174.93.209
    93.174.93.208
    94.102.49.85





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    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ganesh-rao



    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333



    These IPs host SpamBots too:
    89.248.172.26
    93.174.93.209
    93.174.93.208
    94.102.49.85





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    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=739238&page=12) which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):
    http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    These IPs host SpamBots too:
    89.248.172.26
    93.174.93.209
    93.174.93.208
    94.102.49.85

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    Here is a detailed explaination of their recent outage (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=739238&page=12) which also shows their relationship with the RBN AND their slimy activies (I love this link):
    http://www.sudosecure.net/archives/333
    These IPs host SpamBots too:
    89.248.172.26
    93.174.93.209
    93.174.93.208
    94.102.49.85

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    Intersting invistigation and interesting results are here. Great job was done. Thanks.





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    Intersting invistigation and interesting results are here. Great job was done. Thanks.





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    Intersting invistigation and interesting results are here. Great job was done. Thanks.

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    Intersting invistigation and interesting results are here. Great job was done. Thanks.

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    The thing is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck.
    There are very few legitimate reasons I can think off to use ecatel other than to avoid certain terms or cheap pricing, their history is checkable before paying ( as you have shown) so why use them as a supplier in the first place.





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    The thing is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck.
    There are very few legitimate reasons I can think off to use ecatel other than to avoid certain terms or cheap pricing, their history is checkable before paying ( as you have shown) so why use them as a supplier in the first place.





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    The thing is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck.
    There are very few legitimate reasons I can think off to use ecatel other than to avoid certain terms or cheap pricing, their history is checkable before paying ( as you have shown) so why use them as a supplier in the first place.

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    The thing is, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck.
    There are very few legitimate reasons I can think off to use ecatel other than to avoid certain terms or cheap pricing, their history is checkable before paying ( as you have shown) so why use them as a supplier in the first place.

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    I am not a regular member on these forums, though I thought I'd register to comment in this thread. I am a large client of ecatel, we're not a torrent site or "scam" site, we have 6-7 high bandwidth servers for large static files, their network is second to none and we're very happy with their service.
    They've never "stuffed" us around as such, perhaps some delays on hardware upgrades but if there was ever an issue financially they were quick to resolve it.
    I can't really comment on the RBN links as I really have no idea, but I want to point out to people that you're a "competitor" to ecatel and it's in your interest to see them "go down". People should bare that in mind. I also think it's important to note out that it's _your name_ that's related to the scam sites on spamhaus, it's simply on ecatels IP space. You seem to be the one that's involved in the scam/fraud business to all logical findings...
    spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68196
    If they terminated your services for this exact reason, well they had every right to. You were doing the dodgy, not them.

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    I am not a regular member on these forums, though I thought I'd register to comment in this thread. I am a large client of ecatel, we're not a torrent site or "scam" site, we have 6-7 high bandwidth servers for large static files, their network is second to none and we're very happy with their service.
    They've never "stuffed" us around as such, perhaps some delays on hardware upgrades but if there was ever an issue financially they were quick to resolve it.
    I can't really comment on the RBN links as I really have no idea, but I want to point out to people that you're a "competitor" to ecatel and it's in your interest to see them "go down". People should bare that in mind. I also think it's important to note out that it's _your name_ that's related to the scam sites on spamhaus, it's simply on ecatels IP space. You seem to be the one that's involved in the scam/fraud business to all logical findings...
    spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68196
    If they terminated your services for this exact reason, well they had every right to. You were doing the dodgy, not them.

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    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    I also think it's important to note out that it's _your name_ that's related to the scam sites on spamhaus, it's simply on ecatels IP space. You seem to be the one that's involved in the scam/fraud business to all logical findings...
    spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68196
    If they terminated your services for this exact reason, well they had every right to. You were doing the dodgy, not them.


    People like you and Ecatel should definitely start reading some more, and more importantly reading properly before commenting. That incident depicts 1 abuse from our side (48.0/24) ... i.e. copyright infringement (which was resolved within 12~ hrs). What about the 200+ other incidents thats come up on the same page at the bottom (49.0/20) which still hasn't been resolved even after 2 months?
    Care to comment on that little situation? Oh no, you won't!
    I am not saying that your a bad person or every customer Ecatel hosts is bad. I am aware of large sites they host on their network. I have got nothing against them at all. I am merely pointing out what kind of an organization they are.
    When you have large contracts with them (as in... large amount of money being paid; nothing on paper though) they treat you like God. Cancel services with them, they won't service you until your paid term, let alone comphensate for all the network downtime, hardware delays (the recent outage, 0 people were comphensated by Ecatel's will; chargebacks are different issue)
    And, wow. Its not just me who is typing these, there are 10+ people from WHT who can confirm those statements. There must 10 times that number from outside these forums.





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    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    I also think it's important to note out that it's _your name_ that's related to the scam sites on spamhaus, it's simply on ecatels IP space. You seem to be the one that's involved in the scam/fraud business to all logical findings...
    spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL68196
    If they terminated your services for this exact reason, well they had every right to. You were doing the dodgy, not them.


    People like you and Ecatel should definitely start reading some more, and more importantly reading properly before commenting. That incident depicts 1 abuse from our side (48.0/24) ... i.e. copyright infringement (which was resolved within 12~ hrs). What about the 200+ other incidents thats come up on the same page at the bottom (49.0/20) which still hasn't been resolved even after 2 months?
    Care to comment on that little situation? Oh no, you won't!
    I am not saying that your a bad person or every customer Ecatel hosts is bad. I am aware of large sites they host on their network. I have got nothing against them at all. I am merely pointing out what kind of an organization they are.
    When you have large contracts with them (as in... large amount of money being paid; nothing on paper though) they treat you like God. Cancel services with them, they won't service you until your paid term, let alone comphensate for all the network downtime, hardware delays (the recent outage, 0 people were comphensated by Ecatel's will; chargebacks are different issue)
    And, wow. Its not just me who is typing these, there are 10+ people from WHT who can confirm those statements. There must 10 times that number from outside these forums.





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    Well the bottom line is there's always going to be problems as a provider gets larger, there's no avoiding that. There's also no way of monitoring their servers for serious problems such as botnets, or malware. Seeing as you've been found to have the same problem, I am sure you'd be understanding.
    We all know NL isn't the most strict on US related laws (and why should they be?). The way you speak is that they host only for the RBN, they only host malware sites, they only host the latest vista crack... It's simply not true. Our site is based in the USA, though we moved some of our static files to ecatel due to their excellent european speed. Most people I work with host legitimate sites with them due to their bandwidth allocation. I know of many very happy customers. I know it's impossible to keep eveyone happy. Though the point that your service was terminated (due to it causing a major outage to the rest of their network) is well within their rights.
    If I were in charge of the network and you caused that major outage, I'd do the same thing. Hopefully the rest of the abuse claims are handled shortly, that's all I can say.

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    Well the bottom line is there's always going to be problems as a provider gets larger, there's no avoiding that. There's also no way of monitoring their servers for serious problems such as botnets, or malware. Seeing as you've been found to have the same problem, I am sure you'd be understanding.
    We all know NL isn't the most strict on US related laws (and why should they be?). The way you speak is that they host only for the RBN, they only host malware sites, they only host the latest vista crack... It's simply not true. Our site is based in the USA, though we moved some of our static files to ecatel due to their excellent european speed. Most people I work with host legitimate sites with them due to their bandwidth allocation. I know of many very happy customers. I know it's impossible to keep eveyone happy. Though the point that your service was terminated (due to it causing a major outage to the rest of their network) is well within their rights.
    If I were in charge of the network and you caused that major outage, I'd do the same thing. Hopefully the rest of the abuse claims are handled shortly, that's all I can say.

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    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    We all know NL isn't the most strict on US related laws (and why should they be?). The way you speak is that they host only for the RBN, they only host malware sites, they only host the latest vista crack... It's simply not true. Our site is based in the USA, though we moved some of our static files to ecatel due to their excellent european speed. Most people I work with host legitimate sites with them due to their bandwidth allocation. I know of many very happy customers. I know it's impossible to keep eveyone happy. Though the point that your service was terminated (due to it causing a major outage to the rest of their network) is well within their rights.


    I have mentioned this once already and I'll mention it once more for the last time. I have nothing against the good customers Ecatel services. They should keep that up and I am actually quite surprised (in a good way) about their speed and pricing.
    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    If I were in charge of the network and you caused that major outage, I'd do the same thing. Hopefully the rest of the abuse claims are handled shortly, that's all I can say.


    Well, I knew you would mention this sick enough claim. "Cancellation" is different from "termination". Read what I post *properly* before you make another poor-read and understood response.
    As for their falsified story, here is something that shows a bit of truth: http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    You can either stop replying entirely or start replying with proper information that can be verified from reliable sources. Ecatel is known for their specialty to make stuff up, I definitely and honestly don't want their customer to have such a character.
    PS: yes I understand, when networks become huge, its harder to handle things but how come much larger networks like LeaseWeb are known for preventing such problems?http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...p=leaseweb.com - finding excuses isn't the way to resolve problems.





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    Last edited by ganesh-rao : 12-01-2008 at 06:04 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    We all know NL isn't the most strict on US related laws (and why should they be?). The way you speak is that they host only for the RBN, they only host malware sites, they only host the latest vista crack... It's simply not true. Our site is based in the USA, though we moved some of our static files to ecatel due to their excellent european speed. Most people I work with host legitimate sites with them due to their bandwidth allocation. I know of many very happy customers. I know it's impossible to keep eveyone happy. Though the point that your service was terminated (due to it causing a major outage to the rest of their network) is well within their rights.


    I have mentioned this once already and I'll mention it once more for the last time. I have nothing against the good customers Ecatel services. They should keep that up and I am actually quite surprised (in a good way) about their speed and pricing.
    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Teedo_01


    If I were in charge of the network and you caused that major outage, I'd do the same thing. Hopefully the rest of the abuse claims are handled shortly, that's all I can say.


    Well, I knew you would mention this sick enough claim. "Cancellation" is different from "termination". Read what I post *properly* before you make another poor-read and understood response.
    As for their falsified story, here is something that shows a bit of truth: http://www.matchent.com/wpress/?q=node/422
    You can either stop replying entirely or start replying with proper information that can be verified from reliable sources. Ecatel is known for their specialty to make stuff up, I definitely and honestly don't want their customer to have such a character.
    PS: yes I understand, when networks become huge, its harder to handle things but how come much larger networks like LeaseWeb are known for preventing such problems?http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings...p=leaseweb.com - finding excuses isn't the way to resolve problems.





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    Last edited by ganesh-rao : 12-01-2008 at 06:04 PM.

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    Ganesh Rao is just mad because we shutdown his 45 spamservers. Thats his 5000,- eur loss of income (??)
    In the first place he called himself John Doe. (need to say m

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