I need your opinion,what is better,windows or linux?
And why?It seems is linux is better beacuse control panels there have more features ad linux is more stable.What is your opinion?
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I need your opinion,what is better,windows or linux?
And why?It seems is linux is better beacuse control panels there have more features ad linux is more stable.What is your opinion?
I would strongly suggest linux.
1. Its very cheap. you can install centos or fedora in the server. Windows is not a free software
2. More security for linux
3. More stable
4. You can customize the os
5. Fewer bugs for linux
6. virus and spyware are not affected
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http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/Linux.vs.Windows.html
I agree. If you've never used Linux it takes a wile to get used to it, but it's worth it in the end. In this case, Free=Better. Don't get me wrong, Windows has its place, but you'll spend more time maintaining it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
Both of them have their own features and advantages over other. it is you to see which would better you to handle and seeing the prespective of market demands etc.
Thanks for the opinions. I'm used to windows, but have been thinking of linux
from the profit point of view, you can charge way more with Windows than Linux because your customers know Windows is not free thus you can pretty much charge a premiem price with Windows hosting.
as far as security go, both Windows and Linux are good as long as your admin kungfu are up to par.
There's always going to be arguments over Windows vs. Linus but I'd suggest you demo all the options and see what you like. Don't fall into the trap of assuming Linux hosting will be cheaper and you'll make more money out of it without taking the time to make up your own mind.
Also read this: http://www.webhostautomation.com/webhost-849
With Microsofts charge into Virtualization it makes great sense to go Win2k3. Plus of course you get to use MS SQL 2005, WSS 3.0, Frontpage Ext, Media Services and Virtual Server 2005.
It's interesting to see how things progress actually. When we started offering Helm, which was and still is one of the only control panels available that's just for Windows, Microsft had jsut 20% of the market (according to Netcraft that is).
Since MS themselves have started getting more involved in hosting that''s increased to 35% and growing.
Oh not again! This discussion already took place a trillion times here and the result was always the same. There is no better system, but it always comes down to experience, requirements and preferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
1. Its very cheap. you can install centos or fedora in the server. Windows is not a free software[/QUOTE]
Thats a true argument, however it often doesnt make hosting cheaper.
Not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
Are you talking of code modifications of the kernel? How often does this really happen? This point is rather irrelevant for the typical webhoster.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
Not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
These issues count for desktop machines (run by unexperienced users) but not for server machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by cybersavvy
The last thing we want to do here is turn this into yet another linux vs. Windows thread. They never help because people are so set in their ways. I truely beleive that most serious hosts will start to offer services on a mixture of platforms, choosing the best from each. They might use linux for their dns server, windows for exchange. Heck they might even find a reason to use some other operating systems such as OSX.
windows is easier for screen remote
linux do not have graphical remote screen by default
Linux is much better.I had win2k3 server and from some reason he was constantly crushing.After that i no longer want to use windows not a chance.
Then I suppose you had some serious hardware issues or wrong drivers. But this doesnt make Linux better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
I dont think so.Linux once installed it work always.Never crushed,never had any problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoid
I'm using Linux and it's very good.
Well, a crashing Windows is almost always caused by defective hardware or incompatible drivers. If Unix didnt crash you most probably did not make (full) use (due to unavailable drivers) of the hardware component causing the crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
Well one way or another i already paid for installtion of linux cent os and cpanel instead windows 2003.Now only windows server which i will use is my own windows xp computer.Now i trying to install one linux only script(one more advantage of linux)
Well, if you prefer Unix this is fine but saying it is "much better" when it isnt makes a false impression and shouldnt be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
I'd say Linux.
Hmm server has crushed again even on linux it seems there was realy hardware malfuction.But linux have advantange on this field-now support has testing memory and cpu,before was windows normaly up and since it doesnt have log it was not possible what determine that crushing.Linux refuse to load.Well in any case i still think linux is better beacuse it has cpanel which has much much more features then damn plesk.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoid
Didnt I say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
Although it is obviously a hardware error you are still looking for reasons to blame Windows? I'd say this is on purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
And yes, Windows logs of course too, one only needs to read them.
Again, this seems to be on purpose. If you cant blame it on the system itself you are complaining about the availability of applications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klentelaris
Please lets stay professional and present actual facts for statements. As I already mentioned previously, there is no better system, but it always comes down to experience, requirements and preferences.
Indeed.Well now is over since now is installed linux and hardware replaced.
I'm using both. Linux and Windows. Which one i prefer? None.
Both are equally solid and reliable when properly configured.
I'd say go with what you're more comfortable with. Linux has a bigger market share and it's slightly easier to find help if you'd need to.
With IIS7 around the corner, I'd definately say Windows is gaining a lot of ground on Linux. Zoid, job well done on the Windows side. For some reason its always the Linux admins that bring up the reasons that were true over 6 - 7 years ago that Linux is better, but not with modern day technology.
wow, im young and seriously thinking about building a webserver in the future and have always been told linux for server, but to be honest my brief encounter with it i thought it was crap.. lol
i think im more or a gui windows person, and although it may be better i wish there was more server side software for windows.
dan
What sort of server side software were you after on Windows?
windows you will be spending more time restarting then linux and keeping track of the server load and makeing log reports more on windows based.
windows based is more time consumeing
linux is more manageable but if properly configered it can rock :D
never mind. Misread the post.
60% of servers use Apache and you can pretty much assume most, no not all, are not on Windows boxes.
Yup but go back just a few short months and it was 70% linux vs. 20% windows. Windows hosting is growing fast and it won't be long before windows and linux are on an equal footing.
May I quoteQuote:
Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine
Apache always used to be ahead of IIS, these are no news. The surprising thing is that Apache's market share is going down while IIS' is going up. IIS gained just in Feburary more than twice what Apache lost.Quote:
Apache has a decline of 442K sites this month, and sees its share of the web server market slip by 1.47 percent to 58.7 percent. This is the first time Apache's market share has been below 60 percent since September 2002.
Microsoft-IIS gain 935K sites, continuing an advance that has seen Microsoft steadily chip away at what once seemed an insurmountable lead for Apache.
Oh and by the way, these are just public web servers. In a private corporate environment IIS tends to be even stronger.
But if you consider the market share as a viable argument for a product's quality you certainly also believe in Windows' extreme superiority over Linux :D :D.
Yes, exactly it is only an assumption. Netcraft does not analyse the operating systems but only the reported web server system. Hence it can be only pure guessing which operating system is used.Quote:
Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine
Both are good but for linux you need to have some knowlege of it management.
in general
linux is more secure. none of important sites such as backs websites runing on windows
yes linux also have some bugs and errors but when you compare it with windows you realize that linux is more secure and have more functions
but there is still peoples who prefer windows
but remeber opne source softwares whic can edit by every one are more secure than comersiol software
best regards
You just brought a two months old thread back just to post statements which have been numerously times proven wrong - not only in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by casitecenter
I was about to make a post asking the same question but used search instead. :P I didn't see a lot of good arguments though, mostly bias opinion based on nothing. I have tried both and Windows is fun and easier to manage however I've noticed it takes A LOT more RAM than Linux does. I'm still unsure about the benefits of using Windows though other than ASP and a GUI...what else does Windows have going for it? The consumption of RAM is a pain though...
I wonder if you have turned off some of the running services with your Windows server if you see that it requires so much more RAM? While it is true that the GUI is going to eat up a bit more memory, once you get over that small hump, the memory usage shouldn't be much different. There is no easy way to compare Windows to Linux in terms of speed or reliability. Certain applications will require one or the other and that is what you should base your choice on. With Windows, you have an entirely different base for many programming and scripting languages. They are like comparing apples to oranges. For those who say no big sites run on Windows platforms, I have to say that is just plain wrong. By the way, over 85% of our servers are linux based.
In fact, a lot of the processes are off/disabled. My RAM usage is from the IIS service bare (no MS SQL up or mail, just the webserver) and the control panel. I have to admit, the control pane takes up a lot but if I have everything up and so I'd need more than 512mb RAM....it's too much RAM usage for me. :P
B.S.! Dell run on NT4 since ASP and it does million of transaction per day on its website and it is now running on ASP.NetQuote:
Originally Posted by casitecenter
http://asp.net/getstarted/default.aspx?tabid=61
see for yourself just how many "none of important sites" run on Windows.
Stop with the lie! Stop FUDs!
Its very easy to decide, if, you want;
1. Graphical Interface for management
2. Run ASP, ASP.NET
3. Run MS-Exchange, MS-SQL
4. manage more security issues
5. Charge permium rate for hosting from your customers
6. to be a MS die-hard fan (like me)
7. shell out more money for a hosting OS
always choose Windows.