what number do you consider would take you from being a "small" hosting company to an "intermediate" company"?
how many clients did you have in your first year? second year?
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what number do you consider would take you from being a "small" hosting company to an "intermediate" company"?
how many clients did you have in your first year? second year?
Greetings:
1. 5,000+ clients.
2. 2 (we started hosting November 15, 1996) then 100 (1997).
Thank you.
1. 5,000+ hosted domains...
2. Our first year isn't over yet, but it looks promising :D
I think it would be more of how much profit you bring in. As you can see in this market there is some charging $3.99 a month and some that charge $15.99 a month. Some companies have 1,000 clients and make more then some that have 5,000 clients. So basing it on how many clients I don't think is the best way to do it. Most hosts won't let you know how many clients they made or have. I have learned that a lot of them are just blowing smoke when they say how many they have.
I agree 100% with that. I think it definately depends on what kinds of profits you are turning.Quote:
Originally posted by marcustr
I think it would be more of how much profit you bring in. As you can see in this market there is some charging $3.99 a month and some that charge $15.99 a month. Some companies have 1,000 clients and make more then some that have 5,000 clients. So basing it on how many clients I don't think is the best way to do it. Most hosts won't let you know how many clients they made or have. I have learned that a lot of them are just blowing smoke when they say how many they have.
With that being said, what kinds of profits woudl you consider to be:
1. A small Hosting Company ($50-150K/year) 1-2 employees
2. A medium hosting company ($150-500K/year) 3-5 employees
3. A Large Company. ($500K + /year) 5 + employees
Of course the number of employees may not make a difference....you may be making a million a year and it just be you doing support...with no sleep, food, water or pee brakes....
Oh yea, I'm not asking for any of your particular numbers...just your opinions on sizes.
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Originally posted by VagrantHost
what number do you consider would take you from being a "small" hosting company to an "intermediate" company"?
There's no real right answer to that. It depends on what segment of the hosting market you operate. IMO, revenues of US$1million to US$5 million/yr, would put you in the "intermediate" catagory. Anything above 5M/yr would put you on the radar indeed. HTTPme was IMO, a very small niche player, although we hosted more than 20,000 domains.
Around 400, then close to 1,000 by the 2nd year. We served the multi-domain/reseller marketspace, so it's not like we're selling $25/yr hosting accounts there. :)Quote:
how many clients did you have in your first year? second year?
i honestly think that every ones answer to this question would be an opionion not based on any standard.
Yes there are many different markets and that will should be taken into factor what market the host is in when you decide on how big your host is.
i personally think what puts the hosts into different levels is how well known they are, how much money they are making, and how many clients they have.
Thanks
- James
I would say if you go over 100k peryear you would be getting to a medium/large company.
It's a shame I'm no where near that :(
100k revenue per year? That's still a fairly small figure to consider medium/large when you look at the huge players like Interland, Verio, etc.
I would say if you go over 100k per year, then you're probably making enough for a nice average salary, for yourself.Quote:
Originally posted by markjut
I would say if you go over 100k peryear you would be getting to a medium/large company.
Agreed - I think any medium sized company would be making significantly more than that, at least a medium sized company with well trained, knowledgable employees. 5-10 employees - $45k-$100k year depending on their roles.Quote:
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
I would say if you go over 100k per year, then you're probably making enough for a nice average salary, for yourself.
I forget where I read this, but I think DellHost was considered "medium" and Interland was considered "large" (either HostingTalk or PingZine - I forget). Either way, I think you're way off (markjut) in thinking 100k/year bumps you up to the intermediate level. But of course, this thread is all opinion-based so there really is no wrong answer :).
Dell considers small business as <200 employees, medium business as >200 employees and doesn't define large business (at least on it's website).
That's probably a reasonable figure. Most hosts on WHT are small, us included, in the larger picture.
If we are just considering the sizes of the hosts present on WHT, then you could look at it in a different respect - but remember people like Pair are active here too.
Well the size of a company also depends on the industry.
Porsche is considered to be a tiny car company, but it has over $10 billion dollars in yearly revenue. That's probably more than the 100 biggest hosting companies combined.
Profit is all that counts.
I could drop our price to $1.99 and increase our customer base to 100,000 in three months.
At the same time we would also have gone bankrupt.
We have been luck, its been organic, gradual growth and we have been able to keep up with it.
I would rather have a company that was making 25% profit and had 4000 customers than one that made a loss and had 100,000 customers.
Greetings:
"A Large Company. ($500K + /year) 5 + employees"
We are not a large company even though we fit the statement above.
When I replied "5,000+" clients that was based on our average shared hosting customer paying $25 per month.
It is interested on how size is viewed.
Thank you.
I got around 60 within the first month but that`s because I sell small accounts to private people. I've only been in business for one month.