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View Full Version : Cost Of Virtuozzo?
fuzzball 02-21-2005, 01:15 PM | Can anyone tell the cost of Virtuozzo? I went looking through SW Soft's site, but they don't have any pricing listed anywhere on the site (at least not that I could find).
I was also wondering if anyone is using the software with servers at EV1, and if you're happy with it's functionality. |
mainarea 02-21-2005, 01:45 PM I believe the cost of Virtuozzo varies depending on volume and other circumstances. Just contact them and I'm sure they'll get back to you with pricing options.
- Matt |
HostingInsider 02-21-2005, 05:09 PM | Usually your host gets special pricing and can get it to you cheaper than if you were just to get 1 or 2 licenses. |
If you go spec out servers at ServerMatrix they have options to add Virtuozzo. The pricing is dependent on the number of VPS's you want to place per machine. |
VN-Ken 02-22-2005, 12:25 AM Unfortunately, I've submited 2 forms in the last three months, and they have yet to get back to me. Can someone please estimate of how much it costs?
Thanks |
Captian_Spike 02-22-2005, 12:38 AM Same here, never heard back from them. |
Aushosts 02-22-2005, 01:06 AM Same here too - I sent off a second email last night... |
reanncw 02-22-2005, 01:25 AM Originally posted by fuzzball
Can anyone tell the cost of Virtuozzo? I went looking through SW Soft's site, but they don't have any pricing listed anywhere on the site (at least not that I could find).
I was also wondering if anyone is using the software with servers at EV1, and if you're happy with it's functionality.
You have to email SW Soft regarding that.
About the software
Actually, i'm eating my words on that quote :-)
We did run UML, we still run it for all previous customers and if someone really needs functionality that Virtuozzo can't provide we can move them to a UML-based system.
We switched to Virtuozzo very recently, i'd say management is roughly the same unless you purchase the management console.
Our take on it so far? Virtuozzo is fast. We only have 1 server so far running it but it is at the point where we would stop placing new accounts on it (based on UML). Right now it's using little swap space and the load averages are 0 - 0.05, occasionally they spike up to 1. I'd say for people that have been on a Virtuozzo VPS that was slow, the host must have severely oversold the server. cPanel works just fine, as does DirectAdmin. Of course Plesk works great.
When we ran UML we had customers cancel due to performance, they would sign up and be upset that their shared hosting was faster. This wasn't because we oversold, it was simply because everything was going through the abstraction layer and had high overhead. Also, the RAM was not burstable so their own VPS would start swapping, causing slowdowns. Virtuozzo doesn't have those problems.
From TheWiseOne
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=258645 |
gnhosting 02-22-2005, 02:00 PM You won't find anyone who is able to give pricing directly as before they discuss this you have to have an NDA agreement in place.
Give them a call and ask to speak to Mike Riolo, If you do not have a budget of at minimum $4000 for this I should look at finding a decent quality reseller who does not oversell and uses high quality servers. |
veljad 03-23-2005, 04:02 PM SW SOFT - cvirtuozzo IS CONFIDENT.
Ask them for price.... |
itstech 03-23-2005, 06:08 PM I'm sure Server Matrix isn't the only provider who can resell Virtuozzo & provide a dedicated VPS server. I'm considering purchasing one myself, just not from SM/TP. I've previously discussed this with Matt @ Tektonic
aka TheWiseOne |
benmiller 03-24-2005, 01:23 PM The best thing do to would be to call SWsoft up to get a quote. If you're not having any luck with email, give them a phone call. |
Sprydotcom 03-24-2005, 10:54 PM SW-Soft pricing is 100% dependant on how many VPS accounts you want per server and how many cpus you have in your server. Price ranges from a few hundred to several thousand. Hope that helps a bit. |
aatayyab 04-02-2005, 10:03 AM Hi,
In this modern age, this is FIRST time, i have to remain CLUELESS about any company's product pricing strategy. :(
is swsoft.com suffering from a disease called "manipulation"? if, so, probably a good chance for any one to come up with a competitive product. |
Sprydotcom 04-02-2005, 02:11 PM Take a look at HSPComplete Pricing (http://www.sw-soft.com/en/products/hspcomplete/pricing/) If you read between the lines on option 2 you can get a rough idea of the pricing. |
aatayyab 04-04-2005, 06:40 AM sprydotcom,
i read your given webapage, but i am quite DUMB not to understand the pricing model of Virtuozzo. what i understood was US$500, is that right? i mean for any one having a single Linux hosting server with CPanel, one will need to pay them $500 for how many VPS accounts for the hosting provider to provide to their resellers?
further, there are other licenses software like Fantastico, do they have to be purchased separately for each VPS that Virtuozzo creates or does it simply provide them on an equal basis to all reseller hosting accounts at the server?
amir |
UmBillyCord 04-04-2005, 03:15 PM Originally posted by aatayyab
sprydotcom,
i read your given webapage, but i am quite DUMB not to understand the pricing model of Virtuozzo. what i understood was US$500, is that right? i mean for any one having a single Linux hosting server with CPanel, one will need to pay them $500 for how many VPS accounts for the hosting provider to provide to their resellers?
further, there are other licenses software like Fantastico, do they have to be purchased separately for each VPS that Virtuozzo creates or does it simply provide them on an equal basis to all reseller hosting accounts at the server?
amir
Two methods.
1) You buy the software per server and then pay yearly "software maintenance fees" of about 25% total software.
2) You lease it. Ranges from $3 - $10 /VPS. Depends on how many you place on a box. Stick hundreds, pay $43.00/VPS. Place a few. Pay $10.00. Most providers (good ones that understand VPSs and how to run them correctly) place 20 - 30 VPSs per beefed up box. They pay around $4.00 - $7.00/VPS/mo.
- Also, this isn't per VPS in use billing. You pay upfront for the license limit. You want 25 VPS License, you pay for 25 even if not in use. |
The Virtuozzo price can not be disclosed in public, but I can tell you that the pricing scheme is affordable even for small companies. I can give you the prices if you are interested, but not on the forum :) |
aatayyab 04-05-2005, 06:59 AM Originally posted by 4PSA
The Virtuozzo price can not be disclosed in public, but I can tell you that the pricing scheme is affordable even for small companies. I can give you the prices if you are interested, but not on the forum :)
Shhhhh...... i am all ears, you can whisper it RIGHT now in my email aatayyab@yahoo.com or my inbox here. |
aatayyab 04-05-2005, 07:03 AM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Two methods.
1) You buy the software per server and then pay yearly "software maintenance fees" of about 25% total software.
2) You lease it. Ranges from $3 - $10 /VPS. Depends on how many you place on a box. Stick hundreds, pay $43.00/VPS. Place a few. Pay $10.00. Most providers (good ones that understand VPSs and how to run them correctly) place 20 - 30 VPSs per beefed up box. They pay around $4.00 - $7.00/VPS/mo.
- Also, this isn't per VPS in use billing. You pay upfront for the license limit. You want 25 VPS License, you pay for 25 even if not in use.
the first method, i dont' know whether it if official word of sw-soft.com or not? as far as i understood, you mean to say that i have to pay only 25% of the 500$ on an annual basis for ONE virtuozzo VPS on my server. right?
in the second method, do you mean to say that i have to pay only 40$ per month for 10 Virtuozzo on my single server? |
UmBillyCord 04-05-2005, 03:26 PM Originally posted by aatayyab
the first method, i dont' know whether it if official word of sw-soft.com or not? as far as i understood, you mean to say that i have to pay only 25% of the 500$ on an annual basis for ONE virtuozzo VPS on my server. right?
in the second method, do you mean to say that i have to pay only 40$ per month for 10 Virtuozzo on my single server?
1) Yes. Unless this changed, SW Soft likes to 'require' a yearly software maintenance/support fee. Of course this could have changed since this was a year or so ago, but that was the #1 reason we went to leased versed purchased outright. It is also why we dropped interest in HSPComplete.
2) Good luck. If you are paying for a server license with 10 VPS limit, you will be paying much more.
As people have stated a few times. The only way to get exact pricing is to contact them. |
aatayyab 04-05-2005, 03:36 PM sure, let me contact them and report whatever they advise me. wait!!! |
aatayyab 04-05-2005, 07:18 PM hi,
the attached price list that i recieved from one of the staff of virtuozzo, still confuses me. do i have to purchase the management console and all other things or they are just optional? further what is VE3 or VE10?
[Attachment removed] |
UmBillyCord 04-06-2005, 02:25 AM Originally posted by aatayyab
the attached price list that i recieved from one of the staff of virtuozzo, still confuses me.
Hmmm. Seems cheaper then I remember.
do i have to purchase the management console
No. But I think you will find it very difficult without it.
and all other things or they are just optional? further what is VE3 or VE10?
It means you can put three VPSs only on that server. Or VE 10 allows ten total. |
aatayyab 04-06-2005, 08:46 AM Billy,
i am still confused. could you please tell me how much Virtuozzo cost me for 10 VPS accounts on my dedicated server? i don't need price broken down in confusing ways, but a TOTAL price i have to pay on monthly or annual basis. please advise if you could understand the price list better than me. |
tpetersen 04-06-2005, 09:41 AM Originally posted by aatayyab
hi,
the attached price list that i recieved from one of the staff of virtuozzo, still confuses me. do i have to purchase the management console and all other things or they are just optional? further what is VE3 or VE10?
Did you read the top of the pricing in that document? It reads "Private and confidential". Did you first obtain permission to post it in a public forum?
I ask because I know we had to sign an NDA with SWSoft and 4PSA _clearly_ states "The Virtuozzo price can not be disclosed in public, but I can tell you that the pricing scheme is affordable even for small companies. I can give you the prices if you are interested, but not on the forum"
TP |
aatayyab 04-06-2005, 10:53 AM Hi,
Now, that is a clear non-sense, sorry for such words. you have a company, you have a product, and of course, that product costs something. and that something is called PRICE. now, you need to SIGN anything before disclosing it to the one who can get the pricing as you did.
all of such "hiding" tactics are nothing more than a "manipulative" set of a mind. it is a free world, and if you can't allow any free thought or freedom of information, i would suggest you "invent" your own USSR and live there, instead of this FREE world.
just pissed off by your comments of "PRIVATE CONFIDENTIAL", especially when you dont' own or represent the SW-SOFT or alikes. let us not go OFF-TOPIC, the whole purpose of this topic or thread is PRICE of VIRTUOZZO, if i am wrong in giving the price, then the whole thread or discussion here is illegal and we should all be sentenced to a SIBERIAN village for at least 1000 years. |
Venus3 04-12-2005, 09:34 PM I can understand why the company would not want to disclose their prices (this would be a good advantage for resellers as this allows them to set their prices). However, it is somewhat frustrating.
I'm currently trying to figure out if it would be cheaper to purchase a license (3 to 5 VPSes) from them directly or go with the one the Planet offers ($110 extra/mo with Cpanel for 10 licenses). I don't need 10 and would prefer to purchase directly (if it's cheaper long term).
Any advice?
Thanks,
Teresa |
sprintserve 04-13-2005, 06:08 AM You can get monthly licenses from SW-Soft as well. So if you need 3-5 VPS, you can contact them direct on it as well. If that's all you need, it's naturally going to be cheaper. For one time purchase pricing, you need to consider the maintainance. and based on that work out your own breakeven. Naturally it will all depend on your own definition of long term |
Venus3 04-14-2005, 12:14 AM Thanks for all the advice. You guys have been great!
Teresa |
LT_Radio 04-14-2005, 01:06 PM i asked them a lot of times for its cost, and never got reply!!! |
netswitch 04-18-2005, 07:15 AM just a question, is it legal not to divulg public pricing of one's software ??
looks like monopolistic anti competition tactics.. |
sprintserve 04-18-2005, 09:41 AM It certainly is legal. There's many reasons why you may not want to divulge pricing and virtuozzo certainly is far from being a monopoly. |
Pc-Center.gr 04-18-2005, 10:18 AM why not monopoly ?
what else could you use ?
of course cpanel's solution is coming soon,
but not ready yet ! |
sshepherd 04-18-2005, 04:45 PM This is a free market, they aren't forced to sell their product to anyone or divulge their pricing or even offer the same pricing to everyone.
Quite a few services or products don't have public price lists, that's just how they operate and it's up to you to request the information and come to an arrangement to fit your needs.
Personally I've found SW-Soft sales quite responsive. |
dkitchen 04-18-2005, 07:52 PM Originally posted by SpiritAu
Same here too - I sent off a second email last night...
Add me to the list ...
Originally posted by Sprydotcom
Take a look at HSPComplete Pricing (http://www.sw-soft.com/en/products/hspcomplete/pricing/) If you read between the lines on option 2 you can get a rough idea of the pricing.
I just see white space :eek: |
sprintserve 04-19-2005, 01:31 AM Originally posted by sshepherd
Personally I've found SW-Soft sales quite responsive.
That's my experience. |
gogocode 04-26-2005, 09:28 AM Originally posted by Pc-Center
why not monopoly ?
what else could you use ?
UML |
rich_en_pulpe 03-24-2006, 08:44 AM Can anyone tell the cost of Virtuozzo? I went looking through SW Soft's site, but they don't have any pricing listed anywhere on the site (at least not that I could find).
found this on the net (through swsoft reseller):
VIRTUOZZO™ FOR LINUX - (REDHAT, FEDORA, CENTOS)
10 VPS LICENSE - $49.95/MONTH
30 VPS LICENSE - $99.95/MONTH
60 VPS LICENSE - $149.95/MONTH
100 VPS LICENSE - $199.95/MONTH
VIRTUOZZO™ FOR WINDOWS - (WINDOWS 2003 SERVER)
10 VPS LICENSE - $89.95/MONTH
30 VPS LICENSE - $139.95/MONTH
60 VPS LICENSE - $189.95/MONTH
100 VPS LICENSE - $239.95/MONTH |
Jag-Nick 03-24-2006, 08:47 AM What you posted is the single processor pricing, but most users would want a dual processor, so that they can handle the load for the VPS's, which is a lot more. As well, I think SWsoft has a privacy policy with putting their prices out like that. |
rich_en_pulpe 03-24-2006, 09:29 AM I found this on the net, so I'm not bound to any confidentiality :peace: |
vselvara 03-24-2006, 02:47 PM why not monopoly ?
what else could you use ?
Solaris 10 Containers |
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