Hi,

I have a problem. For some time ago, I was selling a few domains and this guy that I've sold domains to before said he wanted a few of the domains I was selling and we agreed on a price. He said that he didn't have the money right then, but would pay in the next few days. So, since I've done business with this person in the past, I turned down all other offers and kept the domains for him. After a couple of weeks I contact him again and asked him when he's ready to end the deal, and he says the domains are expensive and then he says he doesn't want one of the domains he earlier said he wanted. Now it's been over a month and he's ignoring me. I've tried emailing him, sent him tons of ICQ messages when he's online... no answer.

What would you do in my situation?

Originally posted by (SH)Saeed
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What would you do in my situation? Try and sell them to someone else.

forget him, sell them elsewhere

That's not an option (personal reasons). Any other suggestions?

You could change the DNS on them temporarily to get his attention

Originally posted by (SH)Saeed
That's not an option (personal reasons). Any other suggestions? No.

If he's not going to buy them, and you're not going to sell them to someone else; wait, I suppose that does leave another option. Keep them.

I haven't transfered them yet.

SWR, I'm not the kind of person that let's someone walk all over me and then not do anything about it. This person is an old member of this board and also gets a lot of customers from this board. I don't like and haven't gone public with every little bad thing that happens, but if this person is going to screw me over, then I will have no choice than go public with our "interesting" history to warn current and future customers. I'm seriously hoping it won't get to that point and I've been very patient, been waiting over a month without losing my cool.

That sounds like the best plan, Saeed. Surely you wouldn't want other forum members to be subjected to such dealings. Sometimes naming names is the right thing to do.

It's people like this who takes these scenarios into ooh *i've been scammed* just to name some people caugh Jim_UK. If there was no contract, and he dosen't have the domain forget about it, and sale it to someone else! Quite frankly it realy makes you look immature not to be able to take it like a man and say, he changed his mind, and he dosen't want it. There is no problem with that if he never had the goods, which means you never got the money.

This is just my $0.02.

I'm immature because I trusted him, his word and the fact that we had an agreement and therefore turned down all other offers because he said he wanted them? Where I come from, a deal is a deal and if someone you know wants to buy something you have, you'll sell it to him even though you might have higher offers. It's called being a friend. I guess some people just don't have these values and don't care about how their actions affect other people.

Saeed obviously you haven't been in business long. Business is Business that is why a Business has it's own entity, and even if you call him a friend it dosen't look like it to me you knew him to well?

People, business, etc change there mind, and it happens. Although because someone obviously changed there mind, and now dosent want the domain dosen't put him in the category of _fraudlent_ or a _scammer_. It put's him in the category of a normal live living human being. A scam is when you suffer actual damages and I don't see that anywhere in here, as you still have the domain, and still can sale it.

Again this is just my opinion...

It would be nice if the person just said, "I am sorry but I won't have the money in a timely mannor and I don't want you to lose out on a sale, so go ahead and sell it if you want. Thank you for being patient." but obviously he (or she) hasn't, so what you could do is send one final email saying "I am sorry but I cannot pass up this opportunity to sell these domains any longer, and I must put them back on the market. If you somehow find the funds, you are welcome to bid on them at (link) Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
sign your name"
There you have it. It's called simple business communication. Whenever you agree to a deal, it isn't a done deal until it's a completed transaction. You should always have a contingency plan in mind, and follow through with it. Then there are no misunderstandings. For instance, I would have told the other buyer, that I have a deal pending, and would let them know if it falls through. I would have also told the person I was holding the item for, that I had another buyer if he couldn't pay by a stated date.





ps, this post not only made me scroll to read it, but my fingers are sore from all the typing, so I hope you appriciate it.

Excuse me, but do you have a contract? Signed? If I go onto a car lot and tell the salesman I'm going to buy a car next week, and don't, do you think he's going to come track me down to make me buy it?

You should never have kept the domain in the first place unless you were prepared for him not to purchase it...

Of course, if you two had a contract (signed of course) that's a different story. In that case you could just take him to court.

Originally posted by ChickenSteak
It's people like this who takes these scenarios into ooh *i've been scammed* just to name some people caugh Jim_UK. If there was no contract, and he dosen't have the domain forget about it, and sale it to someone else! Quite frankly it realy makes you look immature not to be able to take it like a man and say, he changed his mind, and he dosen't want it. There is no problem with that if he never had the goods, which means you never got the money.
It has nothing to do with taking it like a man. In business, you develop relationships - based on trust and integrity. I think that the person not acting like a man is the one who makes a deal, then ignores all requests to complete the deal. At the very least, he could have a forthright discussion with Saeed explaining that for whatever reason he will have to pass on the deal, and would still like to maintain a healthy business relationship with him.

Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Saeed obviously you haven't been in business long. Business is Business that is why a Business has it's own entity, and even if you call him a friend it dosen't look like it to me you knew him to well?
People, business, etc change there mind, and it happens. Although because someone obviously changed there mind, and now dosent want the domain dosen't put him in the category of _fraudlent_ or a _scammer_. It put's him in the category of a normal live living human being. A scam is when you suffer actual damages and I don't see that anywhere in here, as you still have the domain, and still can sale it.

Things aren't always black and white. Sure, business is business. But there are many things that factor into the equation. The longevity of your business relationship is one of them. If a long time customer tells me he wants to buy a product, I take him at his word. That's how I personally have conducted business for the last 20+ years and it has served me well.

Let me give you an example. You've been doing business with someone for 2 years and have had many successful transactions. He now has a product he is selling and is asking $30 for it. You email him saying you will take it. In all honesty, given your history with him, would you really expect an email from him saying that until you confirm the order with full payment that the product is still for sale?

Is there no integrity (or expectation thereof) left in the business world these days?

Good luck Saeed. I hope you are able to sell the domain name to someone else.

Vito

I think taking business "school" from chickensteak, who is like 13 or something problably isn't the "wisest" thing. But then again what do I know. If this person can't keep his word, then his clients and customers should know that. Then again just my 2 worthless pennies. Good luck Saeed.

Interactive who said I was teaching? I was just expressing my opinion, and he can take it in or leave it outside.

WHT is slowly going down the drain, I usto be here 24/7 and now its like twice a week (no wonder) sigh...:rolleyes:

Originally posted by ChickenSteak
Interactive who said I was teaching? I was just expressing my opinion, and he can take it in or leave it outside.

WHT is slowly going down the drain, I usto be here 24/7 and now its like twice a week (no wonder) sigh...:rolleyes:


You we're basicly flaming him. He asked for what he should do and you gave him crap. Anyways...I agree with you on the second point